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Kevbarnes
04-15-2007, 08:25 AM
Lip Sync

Does any one have a Lip Sync Test Phrase?

Something like: ‘The Quick brown Fox jumped over the lazy dog’ – kind of thing?,

One that uses say, all mouth Phonemes and consonants etc.

cresshead
04-15-2007, 09:54 AM
not sure about that...
but have a look at these lipsync plugins maybe too..they may have such a phrase in ther demo versions.

http://www.dstorm.co.jp/products/plugin_j/displace.htm#LipSync

http://www.dspengineering.it/Ita/LipSync.htm

http://www.thirdwishsoftware.com/magpiepro.html

http://www.letterboxanimationstudios.com/LSM_Lite/index.html

http://www.daz3d.com/i.x/shop/catmain/-/?cat=337

cresshead
04-15-2007, 04:27 PM
also note what i said about 'international' thoughts on lipsync

here's an example...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra9XCRmlzxM

from the spanish origional:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSpYnKRUf-w&mode=related&search=

from their website
http://www.cristobalmolon.com/trailerra.htm

and a review on vfx
http://www.vfxtalk.com/forum/cg-feature-film-relies-voice-t7850.html?t=7850

as you can see lipsync IS important but not the 'be and end all'' that some claim!

get the eyes right though and your well on your way to good character animation [face]http://www.cgnews.com/images/articles01/fotograma1.jpg

i know i'm going off in a tangent so anyone who has that phrase post it!

UnCommonGrafx
04-15-2007, 04:52 PM
If you still need it, I'll record one tonight and post it.

Kevbarnes
04-16-2007, 11:35 AM
If you still need it, I'll record one tonight and post it.

yes Please,

I thought there might be an industry standard thing that existed. One that could be used to set up a charactor that as yet dosn't have a script.

Cheers

Kev

Kevbarnes
04-16-2007, 11:58 AM
also note what i said about 'international' thoughts on lipsync

Yes I agree, Although I don't think my humble demo reel is ready for the international Publication yet!

Many thanks for the Links to Lip Sync - I went through them last night but did not find any thing related to a Phrase.

I thought it would be the sort of thing a Speach Therapist might use.

UnCommonGrafx
04-16-2007, 12:08 PM
Ok, Will do.

Give me a bit of time and I will record it. Thanks for the fun. ;)


Hey, Give me ALL the phrases you can think of that will serve your purpose, please, so this can best serve your needs.

UnCommonGrafx
04-17-2007, 05:19 PM
Welp,
I'm past my 24 hour mark and my apologies for that.

Here's a file for you to play with. :
http://uncommongrafx.com/examples/Audio4Net.wav

I'm not sure if you've read any material on doing lipsync but let me offer at least one thing that comes to mind: it's not about the phonemes as much as it is about mouth shape. If you attempt to get out all the phonemes, I can promise that the lipsync will look horrendous. Remember some of the cartoons you've seen in your lifetime. They don't capture ALL of the phonemes; instead, they capture enough mouth movement to give the illusion of the conversation.

G'luck.

cresshead
04-17-2007, 05:38 PM
Welp,
I'm past my 24 hour mark and my apologies for that.

Here's a file for you to play with. :
http://uncommongrafx.com/examples/Audio4Net.wav

I'm not sure if you've read any material on doing lipsync but let me offer at least one thing that comes to mind: it's not about the phonemes as much as it is about mouth shape. If you attempt to get out all the phonemes, I can promise that the lipsync will look horrendous. Remember some of the cartoons you've seen in your lifetime. They don't capture ALL of the phonemes; instead, they capture enough mouth movement to give the illusion of the conversation.

G'luck.
:agree:

you'll be well served with either a mirror for reference or better still a webcam so you can have a reference video of your mouth mimicing the spoken lines your character has to speak....not that i'm a guru at lipsync or owt!....:D

Surrealist.
04-17-2007, 07:16 PM
Wouldn't hurt to video tape the voice over actor during the recording. You could even load that up in the BG and use it as a ref to catch the main points - as mentioned. There is the school of thought to stay away from replicating things in this manor. Two schools of thought here. The Traditional Animation school and the MOCAP school. Recording the video I think would be more or less a MOCAP method. In the Pioneering days, of animation traditional animators did spend much time studying film footage and in many cases using film footage as reference for movement. The only reason I am not a fan of MOCAP is because it is so expensive to record. However I see no reason not to use video to your advantage both for study and for reference. You can scroll it and play it back in real time to the animation. But practically speaking these are all just my idle opinions.

Kevbarnes
04-18-2007, 12:09 PM
Here's a file for you to play with

:) Thanks Robert for recording - I'll test it out later.

Kev