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laddehlingerjr
03-01-2007, 04:24 PM
My film Flatland was just reviewed by Scifi.com, front page. They gave it an "A"!


http://www.scifi.com/sfw/screen/sfw15198.html (http://www.scifi.com/sfw/screen/sfw15198.html)

Here's a screencapture:

http://www.flatlandthefilm.com/images/SciFiCom_Highlighted.jpg

harlan
03-01-2007, 04:30 PM
cool... congratulations.

geothefaust
03-01-2007, 04:34 PM
Congratulations. :)

laddehlingerjr
03-01-2007, 05:14 PM
Thanks! Not bad for one guy using Lightwave all by himself, eh? That's a pretty good PR story for Newtek, one would think.

dalecampbelljr
03-01-2007, 05:47 PM
Thanks! Not bad for one guy using Lightwave all by himself, eh? That's a pretty good PR story for Newtek, one would think.

Agreed...PM Chuck or Kurtis

laddehlingerjr
03-01-2007, 05:58 PM
Agreed...PM Chuck or Kurtis

Yeah, already done. Don't know how far it will get. Newtek passed on highlighting it before (although they did give me a link on the front page) when I got 5 out of 5 stars from filmthreat.com (http://www.filmthreat.com/index.php?section=reviews&Id=9709), but maybe this will change minds.

Seems to me the average guy out there in flyover country would find the story uplifiting. How many stories of guys working in L.A. can you do, really?

Bog
03-02-2007, 04:54 AM
*applause*

Woo!

laddehlingerjr
03-02-2007, 05:36 AM
Wooh hoo!

tonybliss
03-02-2007, 06:44 AM
Congrats ... a true inspiration :)
I think it deserves a PR ...

laddehlingerjr
03-02-2007, 07:48 AM
Congrats ... a true inspiration :)
I think it deserves a PR ...

Thank you Sir Swami!

lkolb
03-02-2007, 04:47 PM
Looks good! Congratulations...

laddehlingerjr
03-03-2007, 04:29 AM
Thank you sir!

laddehlingerjr
03-03-2007, 08:12 AM
By the way, here are some clips that were featured by YouTube's editors a week or two ago. YouTube's compression is really rough, so you lose the detail, but still, I did pretty good with them. 400,000+ views for the one called "reflections"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFDTcasgHK4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTntuBUW-d4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUu6zrdlUxI

laddehlingerjr
03-03-2007, 08:58 AM
Congrats!
Great project and I really like the fact that you did not compromise the visual concept! :thumbsup:

Greets.
Oliver.

Thanks Oliver - yes, I tried to make it as true to the dimensionality of the book as I possibly could!

trentonia
03-05-2007, 07:31 AM
I wish you great success with this. The SciFi.com and filmthreat reviews are incredible. You think Newtek would want to do a feature on you. Oh well. Good luck!

Beaker
03-05-2007, 08:13 AM
Are you working on this one too?
http://www.flatlandthemovie.com

laddehlingerjr
03-05-2007, 09:13 AM
Are you working on this one too?
http://www.flatlandthemovie.com

Nope, that's a 1/2 hour educational thing from what I understand. Coincidence.

laddehlingerjr
03-05-2007, 09:17 AM
I wish you great success with this. The SciFi.com and filmthreat reviews are incredible. You think Newtek would want to do a feature on you. Oh well. Good luck!

Thanks sir trentonia!!!!!!

I should be getting new press very soon from other venues anyway. I just thought it would be fun to do something with Newt.

Anyway, the clip on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUu6zrdlUxI) has surpassed 400,000 views, and here's a fun little image from the film:

http://www.flatlandthefilm.com/images/Gallery-ASphereWideAngle.jpg

A Square's POV of A Sphere.

trentonia
03-06-2007, 08:54 AM
Ladd,
Back when I was in the 6th grade my Dad gave me a copy of the book. I've read it 2 or 3 times over the years and always enjoyed it. I ordered your movie and watched it. I totally agree with the reviews you have received. You did an excellent job of updating the book and presenting it in a movie format. I loved the character design, dialog, action, and music. Great job! I would highly recommend this film to anyone. I wish you great success on this and future projects. I'm looking forward to your next one.

I have a question about the production. During the beginning of the film, that takes place in Flatland, are the characters, houses, props, etc. modeled as 3D objects or are they illustrations mapped onto flat planes?
Trentonia

laddehlingerjr
03-06-2007, 09:18 AM
I have a question about the production. During the beginning of the film, that takes place in Flatland, are the characters, houses, props, etc. modeled as 3D objects or are they illustrations mapped onto flat planes?
Trentonia

A little bit of both. At first I started out thinking that the entire thing would be better off as pure 3D vector with minimal textures. It turned out however that it would be faster to find a happy medium.

So I had multiple instances of the same object depending upon its requirements within a given shot.

For instance: A Square's house; there was:
1) a 3D vector version with moveable parts (doors, mostly)
2) A flat "billboard" plane with a 2048x2048 color & alpha texture
3) 1024x1024 color & alpha texture
4) 512x512, etc.

The same held true for the characters. A Square, for instance, had:
1) A completely 3D version - hairs, brains, heart, lungs, everything vectored
2) A flat billboard version with 2048x2048, etc.
3) Various combos in-between the two - where just hairs are actually 3D so that I could animate them, while everything else was texture. Etc.

- Ladd

laddehlingerjr
03-07-2007, 07:31 AM
They just posted an interview I did back in January on the front page of film threat:

http://www.filmthreat.com

Straight to interview:

http://www.filmthreat.com/index.php?section=interviews&Id=1126

trentonia
03-08-2007, 07:40 AM
Ladd,
Excellent interview! I had another question if you don't mind. In the scene where the soldier triangles attack the chromatists, is all the spurting blood done with particles or something else? Thanks.

laddehlingerjr
03-08-2007, 08:13 AM
In the scene where the soldier triangles attack the chromatists, is all the spurting blood done with particles or something else? Thanks.

Actually, I had wanted to use PFX throughout the film for those sorts of things, but rendering time was again an issue; also the physics of LW wasn't really adequate enough to handle what I had in mind. I would've spent all my time tweaking where the particles were going, etc. Would've been like trying to assemble a swiss watch with baseball mitts.

So instead, I rendered out "spewing blood" particles into image sequences and then mapped them onto billboard / flat planes.

It was a bit tricky because LW can get flakey about image sequences when rendering on networks. I ended up having to "push" my entire content directory to each machine, so that they were loading the files locally, as opposed to over my GiG-E network.

trentonia
03-12-2007, 07:52 AM
One more question. In the 3D scene of Spaceland there are a bunch of protesters at Messiah Corp. Did you use some sort of point clone to make the group? I guess this question also applies to the Great Hall scenes in flatland. You didn't have to hand key all those characters did you?
Trentonia

laddehlingerjr
03-12-2007, 08:21 AM
In the 3D scene of Spaceland there are a bunch of protesters at Messiah Corp. Did you use some sort of point clone to make the group? I guess this question also applies to the Great Hall scenes in flatland. You didn't have to hand key all those characters did you?
Trentonia

Actually - I did do it by hand. I experimented with point clones / HD instance and the like, but it just ended up being more trouble than it was worth.

Sometimes you just have to use brute force.

Now, I did write a couple of VB scripts that would generate "template" motions to be applied to the characters in the 3D world - jumping up and down, waving their tentacles, etc.

For those of haven't seen it (hint - buy my DVD) here's a still from the 3D world scene he's talking about:

http://www.flatlandthefilm.com/images/Gallery-Protestors_490x200.jpg