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AnaQuista
06-17-2003, 03:52 AM
hiya all.
Not strictly a LW question but thought this community was likely to offer me the best advice. I have recently been offered a post (not CGI alas) either in Cairns or Bunderberg in sshine coast. Have heard of the electric storms snakes box jellyfish and tropical climate in Cairns but any advice from you Aussies down under would be greatly appreciated. i.e anything I would not be aware of. thanks

Beamtracer
06-17-2003, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by AnaQuista
I have recently been offered a post (not CGI alas) either in Cairns or Bunderberg

I made a short visit to Cairns once. I thought the town was a bit of a hole, but the surrounding areas are beautiful. I've never been to the town of Bundaberg, but hear they make nice dark rum there.


Originally posted by AnaQuista
Have heard of the electric storms snakes box jellyfish and tropical climate in Cairns

It was a long time ago, but I seem to remember there were a lot of crocodiles in that area.

kevman3d
06-17-2003, 05:56 AM
Watch out for that Bundaberg Rum - that stuffs lethal! :)
Trust me, had a bad experience with a bottle of it once...

However, their Ginger Beer is the best! :D

And that's saying a lot, coming from a Kiwi!

Beamtracer
06-17-2003, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by kevman3d
Watch out for that Bundaberg Rum - that stuffs lethal! :)
Trust me, had a bad experience with a bottle of it once...
http://www.bundabergrum.com.au/images/imageHistoryProduct3.gif
Hey, we should have a tutorial about modeling a Bundaberg Rum bottle.

I can see the effects that consuming Bundaberg Rum had on you!!!;) Below is what a NZ Kiwi looks like after consuming Bundaberg Rum.

riki
06-17-2003, 06:08 PM
I 'HATE' QLD, forget about the crocs, jellys, sting rays, mosquitoes, denghi fever etc. It's the locals I'd be worried about. BTW I was born in QLD and my Mum drinks Bundy.

AnaQuista
06-18-2003, 05:48 AM
cheers guys for the replies.
So if I forget the electric storms, the cyclones, the jellyfish, the raining frogs, the snakes and the crocodiles and assuming I steer clear of the rum and the locals I should be OK?
Now to sell it to my family.
Any other part of Australia you guys would recommend - avoiding big cities.

riki
06-18-2003, 07:01 AM
I hear that Blacktown and Rooty Hill are very nice this time of year :)

Beamtracer
06-18-2003, 08:37 AM
The names of those places sound a bit suspect. Do you recommend these places for American visitors to your country?

riki
06-18-2003, 08:54 AM
haha I think Guns n Roses played there when they came to Sydney :) Hey it's not so bad, look they've even got a Mosque http://www.icnsw.org.au/rootyhill.html

Beamtracer
06-18-2003, 10:48 PM
Australia has a reputation for being harsh to refugees. Maybe visitors should be told to watch out for crocs and don't look like a refugee.

riki
06-19-2003, 01:09 AM
mmmmmmmm can't argue with that one. That's how the current government got re-elected.

Howzat
06-19-2003, 06:39 AM
Despite our recent history of treatment of refugees I think we are still a relatively tolerant country (especially if you are white and speak English!:( )

where are you coming from anyway? It gets very hot and humid in Cairns and Bundaberg in summer, winters are pretty good though. If you want decent beaches and water without jellyfish you have to travel south a couple of hours to Brisbane and the Gold Coast, which are both great places.
If you want something colder then checkout Tasmania, freezing winter and nice in summer, with some stunning wilderness all around. But I'm a little bit biased!

AnaQuista
06-19-2003, 01:50 PM
cheers guys. Never realised this topic would get so many views. wrt governments and politics one of the reasons I am going over is to try and get them out of my mind for a period. Hell even contemplating not having a tv.... call me an ostrich if you like, but bliss would be nice beaches, nice wildlife, nice food, a laptop and my dongle.
I am coming from UK and thought I would try out Australia before I definitely settle (probably in mainland Europe). There are jobs for me all over but the Cairns post would give me the chance to work with aboriginal communities... wonder what they will think of the Bunderberg rum model.

riki
06-20-2003, 08:55 AM
The Northern Beaches and Port Douglas is nice. Damn I can even say that I have been stranded on a deserted tropical island :-) Anyway I'm sure you'll have a great time. I think the main aboriginal community is at Yarabah. But I think you have to get special permission to go there.

Beamtracer
06-20-2003, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by AnaQuista
I am coming from UK and thought I would try out Australia before I definitely settle (probably in mainland Europe). There are jobs for me all over"...

Do you know if there are many CG jobs in mainland Europe?

AnaQuista
06-22-2003, 03:35 PM
not in CG sorry. I work in the health field by day. I have however seen a few ads calling for animators and modellors, but they have been for work in the games industry.

Beamtracer
06-22-2003, 09:19 PM
There must be something going on in Europe. Germany has a big television industry. France has a big film industry. Then again, with arthouse style films they may not use much CG.

AnaQuista
06-23-2003, 01:47 AM
France does have a very big 3d industry. Have you seen Tim Tom the animated film = a gem of ingenuity. Unfortunately when you live in one country it is never certain that you are receiving all the info you need, For example in the UK we get the impression that CG is been led by places like Mill House etc...

riki
06-23-2003, 02:21 AM
Damn Euro's have taken over the Aussie thread :)

AnaQuista
06-23-2003, 05:16 AM
sorry back to Aus. How about broadband? Are Aus cities broadband ready? Dont mean it as a degoratory question. I live in France part of the year and it is extremely annoying having to use a dial up connection there.
Riki do you have any comments on Perth (which could be another option).

riki
06-23-2003, 05:53 AM
I can't get cable. But I've been checking out ADSL becuase I've been getting some work from the States, and my clients sending me 200mg files which I have to download on my 56k connection. Very frustrating. But even that won't help me out with the uploads. Plus I'm a bit worried about it now becuase a friend was telling me that there ADSL connection cuts out all the time.

I don't mind paying more for it if I can save money from having a perminent connection and not have to use my mobile so much. I'll have to check it out properly.

Howzat
06-25-2003, 07:44 PM
I get ADSL and I'm in little old Tasmania... I would imagine if you were anywhere near the major centres you would have access to broadband...
Perth is a great city as well, pretty hot in summer but that only brings out the good-looking chicks more :)
however it is said to be the most remote city in the world.

Beamtracer
06-25-2003, 08:33 PM
ADSL travels a maximum of about 2 miles (3 km) down a phone line. Beyond that you can't use it. This is the maximum distance you can be from your telephone switching/exchange center to receive ADSL, so you can't be too remote.


Originally posted by Howzat
Perth... ...is said to be the most remote city in the world.
What about Honolulu?:p One thing amusing about Aussies, and this goes for NZ Kiwis as well, is that everything is the longest or biggest or something like that. [Maybe I should add Texans to this.] Kiwis do this the most. Everything in New Zealand is the biggest or the longest "in the southern hemisphere." They even claim to have the longest walking track "in the southern hemisphere". It's really funny. (I mean that affectionately if there are any Kiwis reading this).

I might be a gizmo junkie, but if ADSL is your only option, check that the town you're going to has it, and when you are choosing a house or apartment, make sure it is located within ADSL range.

Howzat
06-25-2003, 08:54 PM
Yeah, that's why I said "is said to be the most remote " because the parameters they must be using are questionable.

I live in a "city" of 25,000 that is classified as rural and can still get broadband, the exchange is pretty close to me. If you can get it in rural Tasmania you should be able to get it in the areas around Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane. Not to mention cable as well. I'm aware of the limits in regards to distance to an exchange, it's just that there are more exchanges enabled around the population centres (obviously).

As for people claiming to have the biggest, longest or whatever I think it's got the most to do with a small population on the biggest island country in the world (Australia is supposed to be the oldest continent as well! :p), we are bound to have a large number of "oldest in the world" or "biggest in the southern hemisphere" (they use that one WAY too often :)). Either way, I would be very embarrassed if we actually did this more than Texans! And I really don't think Australians have the same obsession with size that America does (I'm mainly thinking about cars and those bloody huge SUV's!)

riki
06-25-2003, 09:55 PM
I'm live only 15minutes walk from Sydney CBD and the Sydney Opera House so I would imagine that I should be able to get ADSL. I can't get cable though becuase aparently though don't connect to apartments.

As far as the biggest things go, yeah we have a lot of that krap, like the Big Banana etc. But also when I was reaing though the European Lonely Planet/Let's Go etc, they kept referring to the Oldest Gothic Cathedral, the largest Baroque Pipe Organ. I went to one place in Belgium I think?? which claimed to have the oldest living pot plant. :)

Damn I went there and I missed it as well :)

Beamtracer
06-26-2003, 12:27 AM
I couldn't resist doing a Google search for Big Banana, and sure enough it was there:
http://www.nnsw.com.au/coffsharbour/coffs10b.jpg
You should be proud that your banana is bigger than everyone elses.

riki
06-26-2003, 12:29 AM
Yeah sadly but true. I think it's one of the oldest big things :)

Howzat
06-26-2003, 01:43 AM
don't forget the big prawn!
http://www.holidayoz.com.au/images/big04.jpg

Howzat
06-26-2003, 02:00 AM
and while we're on the big banana here is a picture of my mate Jordan having fun, and getting told off by other tourists.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tbutler/jordo.jpg

riki
06-26-2003, 02:07 AM
Oddly enough there's even a website http://members.ozemail.com.au/~arundell/bigthing.htm

" The first Big Thing, the Big Banana, was built in 1963 by John Landi, an American immigrant who was so in love with his banana plantation that he wanted everyone to stop and visit his own piece of paradise. The success of the Big Banana led to a string of imitators, the most successful of which is Nambour's Big Pineapple, built in 1972. "

kevman3d
06-26-2003, 04:42 AM
Originally posted by Beamtracer
Kiwis do this the most. Everything in New Zealand is the biggest or the longest "in the southern hemisphere." They even claim to have the longest walking track "in the southern hemisphere". It's really funny. (I mean that affectionately if there are any Kiwis reading this).


Hey! Watch what you say about NZ, damned Aussie-lover! :mad:

Hehehe! Nah, just kiddin! :)

Almost had ya there for badmouthing us Kiwi's! Your Rum might poison our livers, but your words can't hurt us! :D

Howzat
06-26-2003, 06:47 AM
From the documentary I was watching last night it seems like you don't need our rum to get poisoned, it was about aerial pesticide spraying that is going on in West Auckland to get a nasty bug that is out of control... i would imagine it's not the kind of stuff you want raining down on your head :eek:

riki
06-26-2003, 07:29 AM
Yeah hasn't the NZ government heard of DDT, it's much more effective :)

AnaQuista
06-27-2003, 09:30 AM
you guys crack me up. Great photos.

hey Riki I havent been to Belgium but know a few Belgians. If they are all like them I doubt the worlds oldest pot plant would still be around.

I thought the ADSL reach depended on whether you were less than 10km from a telephone exchange. I tried to get it up and running in a small rural village in France but mised it by 4km.

If you are not too bothered about uploading I came across an interesting site that transmitted webpages via satellite - cant remember what the company was. You need a special receiver and still need a phone connection to inform their control centre via the internet which pages to transmit - bit too close to "1984" for my liking.

Seems like Cairns is getting to be the place of choice. I am sure things in Australia will look much bigger up close.

riki
06-27-2003, 09:39 AM
Hey while we're on the subject of Australian things, I tried kangaroo for the first time the other day, at a BBQ. It wasn't bad either, very tender.

AnaQuista
06-27-2003, 10:03 AM
I am vegetarian by force so no kangaroo (in public) for me. I eat fish and was in Sidney once where I ate this most gorgeous kind of huge prawn thing (no..not a lobster). Cant remember what it was called but it was the biggest looking prawn thing I had ever seen... I think it was Barramundi or something like that..then again there is a Barramundi wine so maybe Ive got them confused and talking crap.

riki
06-27-2003, 10:21 AM
When I was in japan last month I ate an eels heart in a bowl of hot water, something different I guess :)

Beamtracer
06-27-2003, 06:30 PM
How could you kill a kangaroo? Riki, is this what you eat?
http://www.e-xoticmeat.com/images/kan_ph_east_grey_group.jpg

I've heard about the night time kangaroo shooting sprees in Australia. Redneck cowboys go out shooting wildly in the bush, wounding as many as they kill. Sounds barbaric.

kevman3d
06-27-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Howzat
From the documentary I was watching last night it seems like you don't need our rum to get poisoned, it was about aerial pesticide spraying that is going on in West Auckland to get a nasty bug that is out of control... i would imagine it's not the kind of stuff you want raining down on your head :eek:

Yeh, its pretty sad - The Spotted Apple Moth - Vicious little beasty with nasty toxic 'hairs' all over its body... I think its Australian! :)

As for the spray, yup, its funny that one - Lucky for me, I don't live out West though... :)

Riki - DDT? Nah, 245T is the way to go - I think it got banned for killing more then just weeds! :)

Eating Kangaroo? Geesh, poor old Skippy! :(

kevman3d
06-27-2003, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by AnaQuista
If you are not too bothered about uploading I came across an interesting site that transmitted webpages via satellite - cant remember what the company was. You need a special receiver and still need a phone connection to inform their control centre via the internet which pages to transmit - bit too close to "1984" for my liking.

Actually, we have a service like that here in NZ run by ISP 'Ihug' - Called Ultra - While you still connect and upload via modem, Downloads are fast (1000kbps) via a Satellite dish and specialised hardware...

They had to start limiting data transfer because so many people would suck hundreds of gigs of data down through it each month...

http://www.ihug.co.nz/products/internet/ultra/index.html

riki
06-27-2003, 06:49 PM
Actually the last time I saw a kangaroo was in Berlin, back in 95.

No no I didn't kill the little fella, I just went to a BBQ (some Japanese friends) and that's what they were cooking up.

We don't use the word 'Redneck' is OZ, we call them 'Yobbos' (I guess that's how you spell it??)

Yeah last time I went to visit my folks up in NQ I meet some guys who were heavily into pig shooting, they had decked out their trucks with massive bullbars and racks of floodlights on the roof. I guess that's not so bad becuase they're not a native spieces.

Yeah I must admit I used to go hunting with my 'old man' when I was a kid. But I use to always aim a couple of centimeters above their heads, he just thought I was a bad shot :)

riki
06-27-2003, 07:03 PM
Hey kevman3d, yeah that moth did come from OZ, but damn you think they could find a better way than crop dusting over residental communities. One lady on the show said she had been sprayed 57 times. That would really get up my nose.

I also use ihug, it's odd becuse I sometimes call up tech support and get transferred through to NZ. Thanks for the link will check it out.

Beamtracer
06-28-2003, 05:06 AM
Originally posted by riki
hasn't the NZ government heard of DDT
No they haven't. In NZ they claim they have no mosquitos, so they don't need DDT. But they have these other little critters, a kind of midget thing that is more vicious than any mosquito you'd ever meet.

I did a trip to Milford Sound, the fiord in the south of New Zealand. Beautiful place... until the midgets come out and attack you. They swarm around you and you try to swoosh them away in vein.

So remember that when they tell you that New Zealand is the land of no mosquitos!

LiQUiD
06-28-2003, 08:59 AM
Ahhaha, that's where I live - Coffs Harbour.
Come and join us! We've ADSL and all! Near the beach, and right between Sydney and Brisbane.

Seriously, best small city in Australia!
:D

kevman3d
06-30-2003, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by Beamtracer
In NZ they claim they have no mosquitos, so they don't need DDT. But they have these other little critters, a kind of midget thing that is more vicious than any mosquito you'd ever meet.


Geesh, Beam, who HAVE you been talking to in NZ? ;)

Actually, we have lots of mossies (specially around our house, where we have a couple of old rain-filled fishtanks sitting outside 'breeding' them! :) ), we just don't have malaria or denghi fever-carrying mossies.

Dunno what you're talking about regarding these other 'midget' bugs, but I suspect you probably mean 'sandflies' - Small flies that swarm around and suck blood? They're usually rampant around coastal areas... Nasty as mossies they are, but you can usually ward them off with anti-bug lotion! :)

riki
06-30-2003, 04:10 AM
uuugh my Mum was a fountain of good advice for stuff like this.

She use to say, "If you want to keep the flies of your face, don't wear any pants."

All common sense advice :)