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Paul_Boland
11-27-2006, 01:02 PM
Hi Folks.

Using Lightwave 8.5 here. I've recently started looking at Sasquach lite that ships with the software. Now, I'm totally on square one of the learning stage here, so not looking for any technical advice, but just have a question about the power of Sasquach.

Here in Ireland, there is an ad on television for a car (can't recall which model). The ad contains a number of really cute computer created characters, one of which is a bright furry covered character. Of all the characters, I love this guy the most because of the way his hair/fur reacts.

In the ad, he is only shown for a second or two, but he moves his head and his fur... Well... It flows... Not really sure how to descibe this properly... Instead of it turning with the characters head, it kind of flows with the character... It's really superb looking stuff indeed.

All I want to know (for the moment) is can Sasquach do this (lite or full version)?

Bytehawk
11-27-2006, 03:45 PM
yes,

sas full can do it on fur
saslite with guides and clothFX

bobakabob
11-27-2006, 04:09 PM
If you want to do this with professional results, you'll need to invest in the full version of Sas which gives better quality renders and much greater flexibility.

Carm3D
11-27-2006, 10:31 PM
This (http://www.carm3d.net/Media/HairBall.htm) is Sasquatch doing "fur" using 2-point poly chains (long hair mode). It gives a more realistic motion (in my opinion) than Sasquatch (pro)'s fur motion. Unfortunately, to "grow" the long hair guides, you will need a 3rd party plugin.

Random Cloner, MeshPaint, HairSpray, and TrueHair all will aid you in modeling "SAS wigs" (long hair chain models). Of the list, I think MeshPaint and TrueHair are the best.

Sensei
11-28-2006, 12:11 AM
This (http://www.carm3d.net/Media/HairBall.htm) is Sasquatch doing "fur" using 2-point poly chains (long hair mode). It gives a more realistic motion (in my opinion) than Sasquatch (pro)'s fur motion. Unfortunately, to "grow" the long hair guides, you will need a 3rd party plugin.

Random Cloner, MeshPaint, HairSpray, and TrueHair all will aid you in modeling "SAS wigs" (long hair chain models). Of the list, I think MeshPaint and TrueHair are the best.

Thanks Carm for mentioning TrueHair.. :)
In the recent thread http://www.newtek.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59627
I showed how to use TrueHair Styler in SasQuatch hair guide generation mode on 37 MB video that you can see here
http://www2.trueart.pl/Products/Plug-Ins/TrueHair/Graphics/Movies/TrueHair_7.mov

tonybliss
11-28-2006, 01:53 AM
so sensei wa when is True hair going to come out of Poland. I eagerly anticipate :)
Arigato ... arigato gozaimasu.

Dodgy
11-28-2006, 03:08 AM
Unfortunately, to "grow" the long hair guides, you will need a 3rd party plugin.


You don't need to. Either follow my sasquatch tutorial found here:
[url]http://www.newtek.com/products/lightwave/tutorials/modeling/saslite/index.html (http://www.carm3d.net/Media/HairBall.htm)

Or download my wizzy wig plugin from my web page.

Carm3D
11-28-2006, 11:46 AM
You don't need to. Either follow my sasquatch tutorial found here:
http://www.newtek.com/products/lightwave/tutorials/modeling/saslite/index.html

No offense intended Dodgy, but the first thing I did was to try that tutorial and it left me feeling, "There's GOT to be a better way!" Which was then followed by a very expensive process of elimination.. First HairSpray, which is very tedious to work with.. Then Random Cloner which is cool but not for styling.. Then I finally had good luck when I got the (overpriced IMO) MeshPaint. I spent more on hair styling software than I spent on Sasquatch!! :/


Or download my wizzy wig plugin from my web page.

Haven't tried that one.

Paul_Boland
11-28-2006, 12:47 PM
Great, thanks. A lot more info here then I was looking for but good to know it's possible in Lightwave.

I have been over to the Sasquatch site and was looking at the stills and videos there. One the website it says that Sas ships with a physical manual but it doesn't give a lot of details on it. Can anyone who has the manual shed some light on it? Size, content, etc.

Thanks again.

Phil
11-28-2006, 02:43 PM
Fiber Factory may also be worth a look. Styling and rendering, all in one package. For less than Sasquatch. Unless you're on Mac, in which case, for the moment, you're limited to Sas.

http://www.binaryartsinc.com/

serge
11-29-2006, 06:57 AM
The manual is very decent. About a hundred pages with illustrations. Everything is covered, and easy to understand. Also, there are many demonstration scenes which you can download, and the manual gives a description of each of them.

But as Phil suggested, I'd definitely check out Fiber Factory as well.

Paul_Boland
12-05-2006, 12:34 PM
Thanks.

I've taken a look at Fiber Factory and found that it is only for Lightwave 9 which I don't have, so I'll be looking into getting Sas full.

gjjackson
12-05-2006, 02:05 PM
Thanks.

I've taken a look at Fiber Factory and found that it is only for Lightwave 9 which I don't have, so I'll be looking into getting Sas full.

You can always get the LW trial version, good for 30 days and get the FF demo, which I think is fully functional.

T-Light
12-05-2006, 04:39 PM
If you know your areas of focus, Fiber Factory IV demo is worth a shot, be aware of your time limitations though. If you extend then buy it for goodness sake :) It's worth the cost.

Bog
12-05-2006, 05:00 PM
I have a full head of hair and a moustache to animate this side of the new year - I'm definately looking at FiberFactory Four, just for the internal styling tools.

Which remind me of Shave and a Haircut.

OW! Who threw that? ;)