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jat
09-13-2006, 03:20 PM
Hey please tell me LW is coming up with something like this because the whole "not for Mac" plug in story SUCKS!

:thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow

BeeVee
09-14-2006, 02:14 AM
Okay, so perhaps Chilton will jump in with exactly what PLG is, but I had a look on Google:

PLG - a comicbook fanzine in French that's been running for 20 years. Doesn't sound like something that LightWave could benefit overly from;

Progressive Librarian's Guild - not sure how useful association with them would be for LightWave either...

The Yamaha PLG 100DX - Hmm, a keyboard - perhaps good for adding music to your anims?

PLG - A Swiss political party (Parti libéral genevois). Yes! That must be it!

B

parm
09-14-2006, 02:28 AM
It's a UV unwrapping tool, available for windows only (http://homepage2.nifty.com/nif-hp/index2_english.htm)

There's a discussion about it here (http://www.newtek.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55604&page=3), Where oDDity does a comparison with another unwrapper.

It does look very impressive, and free. Not for Mac users though.

Kuzey
09-14-2006, 03:23 AM
Chilton has offered to help port pc whateveryoucallthem to the Mac..so that's probably the best bet unless you have an intel Mac :D

But I would go for better built in tools myself :bowdown:


Kuzey

BazC
09-14-2006, 09:48 AM
You chose to get a Mac, by that choice you also signed the contract to accept that there just isn't the same amount of software and development interest as on the PC/Windows platform.

I'll agree on one thing though, LightWave needs better core UV tools.

That is one of the most absurd arguments I have ever read! I choose to work on a Mac which means I have chosen a platform that currently has fewer available plugins. It does not mean that the situation can't or shouldn't be improved or that Mac users shouldn't campaign to improve matters. In fact Chilton has specifically asked for info about plugins that need to be ported to Mac.

Chilton
09-14-2006, 10:15 AM
I suspect one reason for a lack of plug-ins for this release of LightWave is that the development environment we're using, CodeWarrior, was somewhat expensive, and it went bye-bye towards the end of our development cycle. So once it shipped, there was literally no way to buy a new copy of the dev environment you need to write the plug-ins.

We're using XCode for the UB version (of course), and it's free, and ships with every Mac. So I suspect that we'll see a flood of new plug-ins for the UB version, as the environment to build them will be in every users' hands already.

I'm checking into the PLG thing for LW, BTW.

-Chilton

jat
09-14-2006, 10:25 AM
Chilton, can you tell us if Newtek wll incorporate tools like this in the near future? Thanks

Chilton
09-14-2006, 10:27 AM
No, I cannot tell you that. Cross-platform features (which this would be were we to add it) are not something I have any real say in. And if I did, I probably couldn't talk about it before we release it.

But I agree that this is a cool feature.

jeremyhardin
09-15-2006, 09:26 AM
I also wondered what PLG was. Seemed to fly under the radar. So for anyone else, this is it:

PLG UV Tools (http://flay.com/GetDetail.cfm?ID=2309)
PLG Curve Bone (http://flay.com/GetDetail.cfm?ID=2308)
PLG IK (http://flay.com/GetDetail.cfm?ID=2307)

Wickster
09-15-2006, 10:59 AM
Relax guys. Nemac, probably the only forum member here who has contact with the developer of PLG tools. Recently relayed a messege to PLG's programmer about the MAC request and Nemac reported that DStorm will be helping out the developer convert the sourcecode for the MAC community. I'll see if I can find the link to the post.

BTW, I hear PLG doesn't have a copy of LW9 so his plugs are made for LW7.5 I think...anybody care to donate him a copy of 9? Since he did a tremendous job with his plugin and released it to us for free. :)

Here is the link:
http://www.newtek.com/forums/showpost.php?p=432418&postcount=23

TomT
09-21-2006, 05:14 PM
You chose to get a Mac, by that choice you also signed the contract to accept that there just isn't the same amount of software and development interest as on the PC/Windows platform.

I'll agree on one thing though, LightWave needs better core UV tools.

Yayyy . . . a PC troll. That'll make me want to use LW on Mac all-the-more. I guess I "signed" a contract to use a product where the developers actually care about the Mac community too . . .

And people say the NT Forums are Mac hostile! Nonsense I say!

-T

Chuck
09-21-2006, 06:01 PM
Our Japanese distributor also assists 3rd party developers with Mac conversions, and I corresponded recently with the author of the plugin and found that he was intending to pursue this resource and work toward providing Mac versions of his plugins.

I think Chilton has been busy enough not to have had time yet to review all of our public comments on upcoming developments, but in fact we have mentioned that during the 9.x cycle we plan to make major upgrades to our UV tools and support.

Kuzey
09-22-2006, 02:48 AM
Our Japanese distributor also assists 3rd party developers with Mac conversions, and I corresponded recently with the author of the plugin and found that he was intending to pursue this resource and work toward providing Mac versions of his plugins.

Hi Chuck,

That gave me a good idea, why not mention that there's help to port Mac<>PC plugins on the LW webpage....so it's easy to find and what not :lightwave

Kuzey

eblu
09-29-2006, 07:32 AM
heres a plug-in that mac users would love to have:
rain maker's free open exr saver for LW

http://www.flay.com/getnewsdetail.cfm?ID=908

jeremyhardin
09-29-2006, 07:40 AM
heres a plug-in that mac users would love to have:
rain maker's free open exr saver for LW

http://www.flay.com/getnewsdetail.cfm?ID=908

Hi eblu. That plugin has been surpassed by Lightwolf's exrTrader (http://www.db-w.com/) plugin. It's cross platform and the loader/saver is free. It's the layered export that's commercial (albeit inexpensive).

edit: Oh, and Lightwolf's plugin doesn't require the external .dll file either. Very cool. :thumbsup:

BeeVee
09-29-2006, 08:02 AM
You should have a look at EXRTrader (http://www.db-w.com/content/view/82/106/).

B

eblu
09-29-2006, 01:06 PM
Hi eblu. That plugin has been surpassed by Lightwolf's exrTrader (http://www.db-w.com/) plugin. It's cross platform and the loader/saver is free. It's the layered export that's commercial (albeit inexpensive).

edit: Oh, and Lightwolf's plugin doesn't require the external .dll file either. Very cool. :thumbsup:

thanx all.
thanx Lightwolf, wherever you are.

Lightwolf
09-30-2006, 04:35 AM
thanx all.
thanx Lightwolf, wherever you are.
Here I am :D

You're welcome. Shameless plug-> If you find it useful you're of course very welcome to purchase a license for the buffer saver ;)

Cheers,
Mike

Weepul
10-07-2006, 01:28 AM
So everytime I hear Mac users screaming for 3rd party stuff that's on the PC/Win platform and out of NewTek's reach, I think to myself "So, they still don't get it?). Get real and stop screaming, because it's not going to happen (most of the time), all the goodies for the Win platform will never be available for Mac. That was in essence what I meant, it's not like you, as a Mac owner, don't know that there just isn't the same interest in your platform.

If our pleads to the developer for a Mac version of a specific plug-in is heard and he compiles one, then goodie. But it's just not something that can be expected. That is the price you pay when you go the apple way, always has been.
Well, that situation certainly won't change if all Mac users adopt your defeatist (presented as "realistic") attitude! Exactly opposite of how you seem to feel, it is our responsibility as upholders of the lesser-supported platform to voice our interest in Mac versions of software that is presently PC-only, to show the developers that there would actually be a great number of people with desires to buy and use the developers' products. If our interest and requests fall on deaf ears, it is perfectly reasonable then to try different approaches, such as shifting requests to an entity with more power (such as NewTek) or to independently develop a tool with similar functionality to fill the void.

Now, perhaps I have misinterpreted you and you're only anti-nonproductive-whining, the "oh this plugin doesn't exist, so sad" type of comments. It seemed to me that you were also sick of people requesting Mac versions of plugins to their developers or to people who could make it happen. And even so, a spot of venting from Mac user to Mac user about the state of the software landscape can be constructively cathartic. ;)

TomT
10-08-2006, 12:43 PM
Not trolling at all, but maybe I should have worded it differently.

I use a Mac every day at work . . .

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John the Geek
10-08-2006, 01:32 PM
Mac plug-in developement will likely surge once XCode becomes part of the workflow and no doubt some PC guy is going to mutter the words "where's the Windows version" of some awesome plugin and there won't be one. To get more Mac plugins we need more Mac developers. XCode is free and a great step toward that goal.

Wickster
10-12-2006, 12:24 PM
Slowly but surely...The PLG tools ar now being fconverted to the mac. Happy PLGing everyone!!!

http://homepage2.nifty.com/nif-hp/index2_english.htm

Thank you zardoz for the tip.