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spec24
08-22-2006, 10:50 AM
was everyone talking about it summarily killed?

stevecullum
08-22-2006, 12:38 PM
Yeah I want to know that. It just vanished!

It was an interetsting thread - please return our missing thread Newtek :D

EDIT: Maybe the men in suites paid NT a visit...!

StereoMike
08-22-2006, 01:01 PM
We could try to rebuild it here!

stevecullum
08-22-2006, 01:30 PM
ok, where did we get upto...er...

something like, yep- everything came from nothing, something scientist are unable to give us proper answers on.

So if its genuine, can you really expect the big oil companies, gas co's and every other electricity producer to sit back and let things emerge?

Heck, even governments would lose out on taxes if we never have to buy fuel or batteries again. I fear even if its true, we shall never know...

iconoclasty
08-22-2006, 03:26 PM
Energy threads can be neither created nor destroyed. It must have transfered to a different forum.

Martin Adams
08-22-2006, 04:22 PM
Must have collided with some dark matter. After all, there's a lot (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/5272226.stm) of it around.

spec24
08-22-2006, 04:25 PM
We could try to rebuild it here!

That's true. We have the technology. We could make it stronger, faster.... but I don't want to spend a lot of money. :D

ShawnStovall
08-22-2006, 04:28 PM
That's true. We have the technology. We could make it stronger, faster.... but I don't want to spend a lot of money. :D

...but that doesn't mean we will.:stumped: :jester: :hat: :santa: :ohmy: :confused:

digital verve
08-22-2006, 04:44 PM
I'm also curious why the thread I started vanished. Maybe BP were putting the thumb screws on Newtek. I'm sure Newtek did not delete the thread :devil: considering the other totally off topic threads here in general discussion that remain.

Errr where was I.

Ahhh yes.

"the company is refusing any offers for investment or licensing rights. They intend to pay all expenses involved in the jury review of the technology. This is to dissuade any claims that the company is fraudulently creating a spectacle to raise money."
http://pesn.com/2006/08/21/9500298_Steorn_free_energy_gauntlet/

They have some patents too. It's getting quite elaborate this. I'd like it to be true.

Tzan
08-22-2006, 05:19 PM
Maybe at first glance they thought it was spamish.

You can get a patent for anything, you dont need to prove that it works first. :)

spec24
08-22-2006, 05:36 PM
Maybe at first glance they thought it was spamish.

You can get a patent for anything, you dont need to prove that it works first. :)

Not true: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/iip/patents.htm

check out the perpetual motion machine statement - which is what this product would in fact be.

Medi8or
08-22-2006, 06:07 PM
Not true: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/iip/patents.htm

check out the perpetual motion machine statement - which is what this product would in fact be.
Now that is rubbish. You can't patent inventions wich are "Not useful (such as perpetual motion machines)"? It has been proven several times that you can patent virtually anything, be it useful or not.
I would also guess a perpetual motion machine could be useful. A working one, that is. If it doesn't work, it isn't really a perpetual motion machine, is it? :)

Tzan
08-22-2006, 06:29 PM
Yeah I know they specifically wont do perpetual motion patents. I only skimmed the device's site so I've no idea if its in that category.

You could get a patent for something that looks exactly like it might be a perpetual machine but label it as a toy design or whatever. Just patenting the way the final assembly looks is good enough.

I liked this line even better:

"Offensive to public morality"

spec24
08-22-2006, 08:27 PM
Yeah I know they specifically wont do perpetual motion patents. I only skimmed the device's site so I've no idea if its in that category.

You could get a patent for something that looks exactly like it might be a perpetual machine but label it as a toy design or whatever. Just patenting the way the final assembly looks is good enough.

I liked this line even better:

"Offensive to public morality"

From the description on their site it seems to be one better than a perpetual motion machine as the device is not 100% efficient but actually produces energy so it is over 100% efficient. According to them it rotates (I guess) - so yes, it appears to be a perpetual motion machine of some kind.

lilrayray77
08-22-2006, 08:54 PM
I certainly dont beleive this. Perhaps I dont have a strong enough understanding of this (most likely) but from what I read, the machine runs of of magnets, and to my knowledge, magnets dont contain infinite energy. So I see it as "failed" right off the bat.

StereoMike
08-23-2006, 02:30 AM
Just to rebuild the old state of information:
I think it's either a viral marketing proof,

or a halo3 ad.

Mike

digital verve
08-23-2006, 02:53 AM
I suppose the only realistic method to solving the energy problems is Fusion. It seems though that scientists are many decades away to being able to harness the energy.

http://www.fusion.org.uk/focus/

Unless Steorn can sort us out with those free energy batteries:D

They have a slick video discussing their free energy technology on their site:
http://www.steorn.net/en/downloads.aspx?p=6

omeone
08-23-2006, 06:23 AM
Just to rebuild the old state of information:
I think it's either a viral marketing proof,

or a halo3 ad.

Mike

I keep hoping that that were true, but Steorn have been around for a few years, by name. The company product / service seems to have fallen under many different guises during that time: from web design to giving seminars on how to raise funds for research(!) to this latest showing. It's fly-paper for people with inverse ratios of money and sense.

stevecullum
08-23-2006, 07:06 AM
It's fly-paper for people with inverse ratios of money and sense.

So there a sham?

Personally I think they are looking to get specualtive investors or are thinking they could make a killing if they invested now and then the claims were proved right. But if it is a scam, the Directors face jail for that kind of thing wouldn't they? But its that old saying, what sounds to good to be true, probably is. :(

omeone
08-23-2006, 07:16 AM
... the Directors face jail for that kind of thing wouldn't they?

Yeah, if you can find them ;)

iconoclasty
08-23-2006, 08:58 AM
I'm pretty sure the big oil companies killed the first thead.

Tzan
08-23-2006, 09:18 AM
Spec24: thanks, I was way too busy yesterday (and today) to sort thru all of that :)

But:
I did poke around thru granted! patents and found this guy :)

"1. A method of therapeutically treating an anatomical site in a living body, using a magnetic key chain,"

http://tinyurl.com/o4sl6

At least its a keychain I suppose :)