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ScorpioProd
08-04-2006, 11:19 AM
Kinda a different spin on the similar thread:

Are there any better stand-alone or included in NLE CG programs out there for scrolling?

I ask this since I thought that Inscriber Title Motion Pro which comes with Canopus EDIUS might be better than our CG, but then I read a bunch of stuff in the Canopus forums on how bad their scrolls looked unless you did a lot of complex math to make the scroll speed match video refresh rate.

So doesn't anyone have a true high quality scrolling CG???

bbeanan
08-04-2006, 12:08 PM
Funny you ask I was hunting the web today for the same thing.... (which I have not found anything really as of yet) But I would assume the titler in SpeedEdit must be better since it can do HD???

tfrank
08-04-2006, 08:02 PM
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/Advanced+Video/Plug-In+Edition/TitleDeko+Pro.htm


Check out the current version of TitleDeko Pro. Have used Pinnacle products for several years. We have three systems in house now going to air. Originally, the software was developed for the broadcast industry by Grass Valley I think. It's been through a couple of owners since. It looks great and is easy to use.

David Curle
08-06-2006, 12:07 AM
Kinda a different spin on the similar thread:

Are there any better stand-alone or included in NLE CG programs out there for scrolling?

I ask this since I thought that Inscriber Title Motion Pro which comes with Canopus EDIUS might be better than our CG, but then I read a bunch of stuff in the Canopus forums on how bad their scrolls looked unless you did a lot of complex math to make the scroll speed match video refresh rate.

So doesn't anyone have a true high quality scrolling CG???
The best, and now made for toaster, is TitleBox from PlayBox.
It is used previously with AirBox and as a standalone CG also- it is VERY professional.
Go to www.playbox.tv
or ask Newtek

Jim_C
08-07-2006, 05:53 PM
What does TitleBox go for?

$$?

govtvman
08-08-2006, 02:23 PM
Try these guys

http://www.compixmedia.com/products/LCG_family/

Jim Capillo
08-08-2006, 07:01 PM
Try these guys

http://www.compixmedia.com/products/LCG_family/

'spensive, though...... :(

Jim_C
08-08-2006, 07:17 PM
I believe the software was $300.

Not bad if it's decent.

I think that is all we would need.

wess
08-10-2006, 04:24 PM
If you need something very simple compared to the products listed above, check out Blufftitler.

http://www.outerspace-software.com/blufftitler.html

Jim Capillo
08-10-2006, 06:25 PM
I believe the software was $300.

Not bad if it's decent.

I think that is all we would need.

Unless I've missed something, it looks like the software is dongled to the board. Couldn't find anything about standalone - except for the remote create and edit package.

:stumped:

Jim_C
08-11-2006, 07:55 AM
Not real sure mahself, but on the Online Store page, they have a price of $295 for the software and it says...

"with or without a Compix Media character generator board."

http://www.compixmedia.com/store/

But eh, this is a hat neither of us is going to wear anyway. :)


I did stumble on this page:
http://eng.625-net.ru/content/2003_05/cg1.htm

They 'review' a few CG programs. Listed on the right side.

IMPERIAL
08-11-2006, 09:49 AM
If there is some way VT DSK to be used with external software..SCALA would be my choice.
www.scala.com

IMPERIAL
08-15-2006, 08:32 AM
Just downloaded TitleBox... its impressive. It works with VT3 too.

Jim Capillo
08-15-2006, 10:46 AM
Just downloaded TitleBox... its impressive. It works with VT3 too.

I'm actually looking for a standalone program that I can integrate into a live truck.... gonna need a capture board, too.

Jim_C
08-15-2006, 11:56 AM
Just downloaded TitleBox... its impressive. It works with VT3 too.

Demo or full?

Do you know asking price?

Thanks
Jim

chribba
08-15-2006, 02:27 PM
Demo or full?

Do you know asking price?

Thanks
Jim


Earlier it was around 900 Euro=1150$

chribba

IMPERIAL
08-18-2006, 04:03 AM
Demo.. cant find price list on the site...
It looks like its perfect for live events..but I dont see any way to use it with NLE.

900 Euro sounds too much for 5MB software...(atleast thats how big the demo is)

IMPERIAL
08-18-2006, 04:21 AM
I'm actually looking for a standalone program that I can integrate into a live truck.... gonna need a capture board, too.

Dont know what you mean by standalone exactly.. but titlebox is independent from vt interface..it showup in DSK menu and the interface is separate program... it can be controled via network too ...so if you have VT in the truck.. this might be usefull to you.

Capture board? Why not VT.. as i see it. its cheeper then buying stand alone character generator with limited software in it.

Also try http://www.vizrt.com/ for other software.

Jim Capillo
08-18-2006, 05:29 AM
Dont know what you mean by standalone exactly.. but titlebox is independent from vt interface..it showup in DSK menu and the interface is separate program... it can be controled via network too ...so if you have VT in the truck.. this might be usefull to you.

Capture board? Why not VT.. as i see it. its cheeper then buying stand alone character generator with limited software in it.

Also try http://www.vizrt.com/ for other software.

Standalone = dedicated titler program not tied to any one output board. Right now, I am looking at some older Chyron CG's on eBay. Some of these things out there are cheesy looking on-air.

mgrusin
08-18-2006, 04:22 PM
How about an Amiga Video Toaster? ;) That thing had gorgeous output, even if the UI was a bit clunky.

-MG.

ScorpioProd
08-18-2006, 09:09 PM
I really do still remember the CG in the Classic Toaster looking better for scrolls than our current one...

I mean, that can't really be true though, can it???

Jim Capillo
08-18-2006, 11:02 PM
Even the **gasp** Trinity had a kicka$$ CG.

If ya didn't have to reseat the dam n boards every time you start the thing, I might've been tempted to take the boat out of the water and use it..... :D

prospector
08-19-2006, 07:53 AM
I mean, that can't really be true though, can it???
Yes it's true
It's what I still use my 4000 for

That and Splatterpaint..( god I wish someone would do a plugin for Aura that does that)

Tarheel Cougar
08-29-2006, 09:14 AM
FYI, we've installed 3 Compix systems, and there are at least 2 others around our city that I know of and they are well worth it. They are rock solid and easy to use, Windows based, import Targas with transparency (also imports formats like jpg, bmp), have a multi-channel option, external key, and more. We use one in our studio downstream of our VT4 for all of our CG and also in our truck. It scrolls beautifully. You have to buy the card and software together, or you can buy a turnkey computer.

The scrolls on the Amiga toaster were great and still hard to beat. We used them for over 10 years. Problem is, its not the highest resolution (try using small fonts), its monochromatic, no image scrolling, and only 5 speeds. In the Amiga VT you can't bring graphics in with effects (you can from switcher but then you can't change them on the fly) and you have to put the VT downstream which begs for the Guru Meditation message (or split off your cameras to it and never have matching colors). But that technology is still great stuff.

bojanpop
07-27-2008, 01:51 PM
Best standalone CG for VT(5),VT(4) OR VT(3) is Titlebox.Works great.If you have any question, call me.

[email protected]

SBowie
07-28-2008, 06:10 AM
Splatterpaint? Whazzat, please?