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lion111
07-31-2006, 10:48 AM
of corse you already have seen this
if not enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1WYnWKfVTg

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4afvXj0r2Ww

Plakkie
07-31-2006, 10:56 AM
Hehe, that must be a countryman of mine if I'm not mistaken...

lardbros
07-31-2006, 11:13 AM
They are actually very funny! Felt slightly cruel for smirking, ah well, you gotta begin with Lightwave somewhere, and when English isn't your native language it's tough i guess.

nukemodular
07-31-2006, 11:19 AM
very nice...hehe

Anti-Distinctly
07-31-2006, 11:46 AM
The guy seems so sweet.
It's cool that someone would make a video just to do the most basic things and get confused like I know I did when I first fired up LW, but he gets there in the end. And yeah, his English is better than my...um, Netherlandish (sorry Plakkie:()

gerry_g
07-31-2006, 11:51 AM
Yeah it's funny, but

'Layout' is actually triggered by an icon called 'Lightwave'

People constantly have problems with the hub and 'F12' in particular, this has been particularly so since Nine.........so just how funny is it ??

Rayek
07-31-2006, 12:07 PM
Oh my, I sincerely hope I don't sound like that when I'm conversing in English... We'll be moving to Canada in two months' time: plenty of practice then, I guess ;-)

Still, it's kind of sweet.

I'm just wondering: how does a Dutch accent 'go down' with the English native speaking people visiting this forum, I dare ask? Is it cute sounding? Or nerve wrenching?

R.

gerry_g
07-31-2006, 12:27 PM
Dutch people, to me at least, invariably tend to sound like someone talking with badly fitting false teeth (Paul Verhoeven, Rutger Hour etc), sorry bout that, don't mean to cause offence, just an observation. Anyway I'm English, now there's a silly accent !!

Anti-Distinctly
07-31-2006, 12:46 PM
...I'm just wondering: how does a Dutch accent 'go down' with the English native speaking people visiting this forum, I dare ask? Is it cute sounding? Or nerve wrenching?
R.

It's quite nice really. But it depends on who's speaking (Verhoven is very very loud in commentaries).
I'm trying to work out how old the guy is...

Titus
07-31-2006, 12:48 PM
He clearly isn't a LW savvy person. Being English my second language I can't find this funny.

Anti-Distinctly
07-31-2006, 12:56 PM
...Being English my second language I can't find this funny.
I don't think that is what people found funny. I think its the non-savvyness with LW that people find slightly funny. Being English, (and in a very misbehaved French class) we perhaps don't concentrate on foreign languages in school as much as we should. I have the greatest respect for people who learn another language, let alone try to give an overview of a complex program in that other language.
More power to him I say :)

Titus
07-31-2006, 01:00 PM
Yes, I understand what can you find funny but at the same time I feel empathy for this guy. And I think he is in his 70s.

Anti-Distinctly
07-31-2006, 01:04 PM
Titus, just to make myself clear, I agree with you :)

gjjackson
07-31-2006, 01:09 PM
Apparently the person doesn't realize LW was in Discovery mode and that's why they couldn't switch between apps. It looked as if they didn't even do a run-through before recording.

shaun_michael
07-31-2006, 01:54 PM
Reminds me of my first experience with a woman. No matter which button I pressed nothing else would open either!

parm
07-31-2006, 03:07 PM
They're very funny videos, definitely spoofs. The Maya and Softimage ones are also a hoot.

Anti-Distinctly
07-31-2006, 03:16 PM
don't I feel like a plonker :)

Plakkie
07-31-2006, 03:30 PM
This kind of accent we call "Steenkolen-engels" in the Netherlands, which translates as "coal-english". We do pride ourselves (at least I do :D ) of speking a lot of languages, but it's my observation, alas, that the prononciation often falls behind of the grammar.
That bad-teeth sound probably comes from the fact that the Dutch have difficulty with the english 'th' sound. A frase like "Thank you very much" is sometimes pronounced as "Tank you very much" or "Sank you very much".
Dutch vowels tend to be more in the throat then they are in other languages, which makes it difficult to speak convincing French, which has it's vowels more in the front of the mouth...
Don't know why I'm boring you all with this lecture... perhaps it has something to do with me conducting choirs for a job; can you imagine a choir of 30 dutch people, some of them fluent in 'coal-english', and then being responsable of making them sound truly English?! :bangwall:
On the other hand: I've heard some English choirs trying to sing a German piece, and it was true comedy. :jester:
I'll stop rambling now.

Gui Lo
08-01-2006, 12:53 AM
Lovely spoofs and very watchable.

Nice.

Traveler
08-01-2006, 04:16 PM
This kind of accent we call "Steenkolen-engels" in the Netherlands, which translates as "coal-english".

Actually the correct term would be Pidgin English. :)
(okay, I admit, after seeing that I just had to look it up. ;))

Admittedly, there are some noticable pronunciation errors, I do salute the man for trying. I dont think could do it any better.

PS. even though he is obviously dutch, according to his profile he currently resides in the us.

Sarford
08-01-2006, 04:21 PM
What a cute old (i presume) man! He made me laugh out loud several times (not laugh AT him mind you). Defenetly one of the most funny LW tutorials I've ever seen!

omeone
08-02-2006, 05:26 AM
that's funny?
more useful than funny....
Now THIS (http://tvinjapan.com/blog/2006/05/03/maybe-the-single-weirdest-japanese-tv-yet/) is funny :)

actually... there's a lot of dutch people on this thread.. I wonder are there any bent riders? I need some helping buying my first ligfiets... and since Holland is the center of the world for that kind of thing.. any of you guys be kindly able to give me some advice?

and speaking of Dutch speech... Ive always thought the 'through-the-teeth-thing' made you all sound stoned... which is a good laugh when you're in the pub... but a little scary when flying KLM!

nukemodular
08-02-2006, 10:23 AM
wuhaha...this man is definitly THE MR. TUTORIAL MAN ...check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN0rxWaL4I8&mode=user&search=

Traveler
08-02-2006, 01:24 PM
I wonder are there any bent riders? I need some helping buying my first ligfiets... and since Holland is the center of the world for that kind of thing.. any of you guys be kindly able to give me some advice?


I can't really help you with any specific information. I did however check to see if I could find any sites about such bikes. Unfortunately those few that are available do not appear to have a lot of information in english.
Babelfish however does a pretty good job translating, so you might find the following links helpful
http://www.ligfietser.nl/
http://www.ace-shop.com/
http://www.ligfiets.net/ (parts are in english, and it has a large dealerlist (http://www.ligfiets.net/bedrijven/))

I hope that helps you a least a bit

Plakkie
08-02-2006, 03:57 PM
I wonder are there any bent riders? I need some helping buying my first ligfiets... and since Holland is the center of the world for that kind of thing.. any of you guys be kindly able to give me some advice?


Well, my mother works in a shop for special custom bikes, and though they don't do ligfietsen anymore she promised to look up the adres they use for ligfiets-customers, so perhaps tomorrow I could give you a further adres. The links Traveler send you can get you underway. My neighbour owns a ligfiets so I could ask him too.
But... can't you buy ligfietsen outside the Netherlands? Didn't know it was such a speciality. They do go fast and it looks comfortable. One advice: don't use a ligfiets for much citytraffic; being so low on the road makes you pretty much invisible.

Plakkie
08-02-2006, 03:58 PM
With all those dutch people around it's strange that there is no Dutch 3D community or something. Or is there...? (D3D might be a good name)

Plakkie
08-02-2006, 04:07 PM
wuhaha...this man is definitly THE MR. TUTORIAL MAN ...check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN0rxWaL4I8&mode=user&search=

Ah! We can see his hands! Now we know he's definately old. What's up with this guy. Got a computer from his kids??

lion111
08-02-2006, 09:38 PM
no i dont think so

check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kYQCI8AASY

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dskbD6SyaE

I think he s better than you thought

Traveler
08-03-2006, 02:04 AM
no i dont think so
check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kYQCI8AASY

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dskbD6SyaE
I think he s better than you thought

No he's not. Creating homevideos is one thing, giving credit to real artists is another. Those polar bear animations were actually made by RG Animation Studios. (http://www.rgstudios.com/) (funny animations btw). That's the danger with sites like youtube, its very easy to cut out copyrighted material and display it like its your own (whether on purpose or not).

jphubsch
08-03-2006, 06:43 AM
Well...

I hope this whole thread is a spoof.

lion111
08-03-2006, 06:43 AM
sorry for that
it looked like he made it

Stooch
08-03-2006, 09:57 AM
i found it annoying and drawn out. waste of my time for sure.

omeone
08-04-2006, 01:21 AM
Traveler and Plakkie
Thanks a million for the info!
(my notifications went on the blink again here...)

Ligfiets (or recumbent bicycles to the rest of us) practically don't exist here in Ireland, since with older designs and builds they were not too suited to hilly landscape. I made one myself years ago, but instead of people thinking it a little strange - they actually could not understand the concept at all...

I've never actually ridden a real professionally built recumbent before.. in fact I've only ever seen one once, and that was a tandem owned by a dutch couple on tour through my home town...

There are so many options these days - I dont know which would be most suitable for me. I dont speak dutch and there's no point me asking about American builds - hence I'm reduced to asking questions in a LightWave forum! :P :D

Plakkie, it's not for city cycling just short touring, hopefully 40-50k, 3 or 4 times a week over hilly terrain, and I do like speed - I need a bike that will really repond when I decide to attack...

Plakkie
08-04-2006, 01:57 AM
Hi Omeone,

here's some of the info I got on recumbent bicycles. The first two sites are in english. The other two are not but you can email or call them, if they are not on holiday recess. Check them out and maybe you find what you want. If so, happy cycling though the beautifull Irish hills. :thumbsup:

http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/index_e.html

http://www.ligfietswinkel.nl/indexEng.htm

Flevobike Technology
De Morinel 55
8251 HT Dronten
Tel: 0321-337200
Fax: 0321-337201
e-mail: [email protected]
http://www.flevobike.nl/

De Liggende Hollander
Adress: Tourslaan 33/41, Eindhoven
tel: 040-2424368 fax: 084-7121391
Email: [email protected]
http://www.liggendehollander.nl/

omeone
08-04-2006, 02:51 AM
Cheers, Plakkie, those look great, so many choices. I think I'll just have to spend a couple of days in Holland and try some bikes out first-hand. Life is sooo tough sometimes :D

Thanks again for the help - I really appreciate it :)

Plakkie
08-04-2006, 03:02 AM
Hehe, have fun while you're here; we're a nation of cyclers. :D