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THREEL
07-12-2006, 10:14 AM
Procedural texturing! Ah, now there's an interesting subject, especially when it comes to wood. Do any of my fellow LWvers have any suggestions on how to make good wood from the procedurals provided with LW?

I've tried changing the sizes, locations, rotations, axes, frequencies, turbulences, etc., etc., etc..., but to no avail. I cannot get that natural or stained wood to look the way that I would like it to.

I'll, eventually, be going out and getting images via digital camera, but it would be nice if I could do this the procedual route.

All advice will be greatly appreciated!:)

THREEL (AL)

faulknermano
07-12-2006, 10:31 AM
personally i'd simply use procedurals to diffuse and spec to vary the surface a bit.. but it's much more practical and better-looking to just get wood textures either from your camera or through the web.

THREEL
07-12-2006, 11:33 AM
personally i'd simply use procedurals to diffuse and spec to vary the surface a bit.. but it's much more practical and better-looking to just get wood textures either from your camera or through the web.

Copy that faulkneramo!:thumbsup: It would just be so much nicer and quicker if it could be done with precision directly in LW.

Thanks!:) THREEL (AL)

Stooch
07-12-2006, 12:34 PM
Is there any way to get good wood

viagra.

anim8erWP
07-12-2006, 01:29 PM
Years ago, the default wood using procedurals worked by applying the wood procedure to diffuse. Instead, I use the wood procedure with color. This way the rings are different colors, and not just darker and lighter shades of the same color.

Kurtis
07-12-2006, 03:32 PM
viagra.

:ohmy:
Gotta admit, that was my first thought when I read the subject line.

Darth Mole
07-12-2006, 04:16 PM
Is there a 'fluffer' plug-in for LW? :D

richdj
07-12-2006, 04:17 PM
This may be of use.... (http://www.spiralgraphics.biz/download_ww.htm)

Rich

THREEL
07-12-2006, 07:51 PM
This may be of use.... (http://www.spiralgraphics.biz/download_ww.htm)

Rich

Hey Rich,

Nice call on Spiral Graphics.:thumbsup: Actually, after reading faulkneramo's post, I did a search for wood texturing, and that was one of the first results to show up. I downloaded the free program for texturing wood, and got very nice results on my first try.:D

BTW--Maybe the wording wasn't quite right, but you other guys who thought of some of the other "responses" need to get your minds out of the gutter. You nasties!!!:jester:

Thanks! THREEL (AL)

mjcrawford
07-12-2006, 07:57 PM
Is there a 'fluffer' plug-in for LW? :D

yeah, its a bit expencive though and only legal in Navada!:D

dablan
07-13-2006, 10:06 PM
:ohmy:
Gotta admit, that was my first thought when I read the subject line.

I was thinking Scarlett Johanssen...

THREEL
07-14-2006, 01:06 AM
I was thinking Scarlett Johanssen...

Sorry about the wording for my thread title folks. I'm glad people are getting a good laugh out of it.;) But seriously Kurtis and Dan, you guys are supposed to be the :lwicon: experts here. Is it possible to make a good wood texture in LW, or do we need to look elsewhere like Spiral Graphics for the answer?

Don't get me wrong. I really love using LW, but I've never had very much success when it came to surfacing an object with the procedual texture for wood.:thumbsdow I was able to get a decent wood finish the very first time I used SGs Woodworking proram. Are there any formulas or scales that you recommend to get a decent wood texture in LW? I'd much rather do everything that I can do directly in LW, but I know that's probably just not possible.

Thanx for your time!:) THREEL (AL)

P.S. I'm sure Spiral Graphics is not the only place to find texturing programs. They just happen to be one of the first ones that I ran across when I did a search for wood texturing.

colkai
07-14-2006, 03:38 AM
:ohmy:
Gotta admit, that was my first thought when I read the subject line.

ZZTop was mine. For reasons I'll explain if I have to. :)

colkai
07-14-2006, 04:04 AM
Ok, on a serious note, sure you can make good wood in LW.
Of course, image maps are always a good way to go, but with judicious use of procedurals, you can get very respectable wood surfaces.
The question now is, what tpye of wood are you looking for? Brand New pine or old and worn Oak?

dablan
07-14-2006, 08:01 AM
Threel,
for good wood, I do not use procedurals. You need to use decent image maps. Apply a high res wood texture as a color map. Then apply a black and white version as a bump. You can add mid-tone versions for gloss and spec passes.

Beyond that, with LightWave 9, if your image is good enough, you can use the APS to create fine detailed displacements in the wood, taking it one step further than the bump maps.

Matt
07-14-2006, 09:00 AM
I was thinking Scarlett Johanssen...

LOL! You beat me to the post!

THREEL
07-14-2006, 03:20 PM
The question now is, what tpye of wood are you looking for? Brand New pine or old and worn Oak?

Colkai: I'm not even going to ask about ZZTop. Don't want to open up another can of worms. Know what I mean? It has never been a matter of wood type for me, really. I've always had a problem of getting the wood grain to look right.

Dan: Thanks for a real response.:thumbsup: It's cool to have fun, and believe me I have as big a sense of humor as anyone you'll ever meet. In fact, my wife thinks I joke around too much. I really want to try the bump map part of this. If you do something with a smooth finish like a chair you don't need that, but If you're doing something like a barn beam, or anything with a rough finish, I can see where a bump would really enhance the look. I'll have to stick to v8.5 for now, because it'll be quite a while before I upgrade to v9. It's not because I don't want to either.
BTW--I must be a nieve country boy, and I've been on this earth for over 40 years. But do I dare ask who Scarlett Johanssen is? Is it printable in this forum?

Thanks! THREEL (AL)

Kurtis
07-14-2006, 03:36 PM
Threel,

Please don't take it personally. No disrespect intended. I'm under enough stress right now that it was a fun way to blow off some steam.

As to me being an expert, no, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :D
I do have a long history in LightWave, but on something like that, I leave the answers to someone who knows better than I.

As to who Scarlett Johanasson is: http://imdb.com/name/nm0424060/

mattbolton
07-14-2006, 04:02 PM
For procedural wood, you can get the DarkTree Simbiont plugin for free I'm sure, and there are several freely available wood textures available for it.
http://www.darksim.com/Repository/tx_Wood/
And if you know someone with the full DarkTree package, they can create a custom texture for you.

THREEL
07-14-2006, 05:36 PM
Please don't take it personally. No disrespect intended. I'm under enough stress right now that it was a fun way to blow off some steam.

As to me being an expert, no, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Hey there Kurt! May I call you Kurt. I understand the blowing off steam. Stress can be a killer, literally. BTW--You made my day with the Holiday Inn line. LOL!!! IS the Scarlett Johanasson thing something I can look at with my kids present, or do I need to take a look at that after they go to bed.:sleeping: Also, are there any in-house experts at Newtek for LW.

Thanks for another link for wood texturing matt. I've downloaded it, but have yet to try. If I don't forget, I'll let you know when I do.

I aprreciate everyone's advice! THREEL (AL)

mattclary
07-14-2006, 08:02 PM
Is there a 'fluffer' plug-in for LW? :D


Beats the h3ll out of Viagra! :thumbsup:



And a picture is worth a thousand words.... ;)
http://www.celebsinc.com/pictures/ScarlettJohansson/html/Scarlett-Johansson-01.htm

archiea
07-14-2006, 08:25 PM
:ohmy:
Gotta admit, that was my first thought when I read the subject line.

I gotta admit, thats my first thought, period... what exactly am I admitting here?:D

Kurtis
07-15-2006, 02:01 AM
Hey there Kurt! May I call you Kurt. I understand the blowing off steam. Stress can be a killer, literally. BTW--You made my day with the Holiday Inn line. LOL!!! IS the Scarlett Johanasson thing something I can look at with my kids present, or do I need to take a look at that after they go to bed.:sleeping: Also, are there any in-house experts at Newtek for LW.

Actually, I do prefer Kurtis.

Scarlett Johansson is just an extermely attractive actress. The link I posted is to he filmography on IMDB (Internet Movie DataBase).

There are, but they're all gone to the thing in LA right now.

Kurtis
07-15-2006, 02:02 AM
Hey there Kurt! May I call you Kurt. I understand the blowing off steam. Stress can be a killer, literally. BTW--You made my day with the Holiday Inn line. LOL!!! IS the Scarlett Johanasson thing something I can look at with my kids present, or do I need to take a look at that after they go to bed.:sleeping: Also, are there any in-house experts at Newtek for LW.

Actually, I do prefer Kurtis.

Scarlett Johansson is just an extermely attractive actress, nothing bad. The link I posted is to he filmography on IMDB (Internet Movie DataBase).

There are, but they're all gone to the thing in LA right now.

THREEL
07-16-2006, 10:13 PM
There are, but they're all gone to the thing in LA right now.

Hello Kurtis,

What did you do that was sooo bad that the powers that be wouldn't allow you to go out and party in LA. Are you in a "Time Out" LOL!!!! Well, at least you got to stay in a Holiday Inn Express. HaHa!!!

But seriously, is there any way to get Newtek's LW gurus two bits on the Procedual Wood Texturing issue, after they recover from jet lag, or any other lag that they may have when they return from Tinstletown?:beerchug:

Thanks! THREEL, and you can call me AL.