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CreepinJesus
07-03-2006, 09:01 AM
I'm more interested in the 3D side of things, but if any of you know/have some good introductory tutorials (see below) for LightWave 8.5 + Modeler could you please send me the files/links. Thanks very much.

By 'introductory', I mean the type of tutorial that goes in the direction of "Building your first model" or similar. Also something that explains the tools etc.

Sarford
07-03-2006, 09:09 AM
Buy the book 'Inside Lightwave 8' from Dan Ablan. You can't get better instruction than that.

CreepinJesus
07-03-2006, 10:50 AM
The book looks pretty good...I was kind of hoping for things in the 'free' price range though...haha. Seriously though, thanks.

Sekhar
07-03-2006, 11:08 AM
Did you check the Help section? It's quite good and has some tutorials as well.

nemac4
07-03-2006, 01:02 PM
Here is a link to lostpencil's free beginner tutorial:

http://www.lostpencil.com/lw_beginner.html

munky
07-03-2006, 01:17 PM
Hi There,


Check out Newteks tutorials.

Go to Flay.com

and here

http://members.shaw.ca/lightwavetutorials%20/Main_Menu.htm

regards

paul

Silkrooster
07-03-2006, 07:14 PM
Here you go.


Lightwave Resources

Tutorials
Scott Cameron’s Collection of Lightwave tutorials on the web: http://members.shaw.ca/lightwavetutorials/Main_Menu.htm
Newtek’s main tutorial page http://www.newtek.com/products/lightwave/tutorials/,
Newtek video’s http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/tutorials/videos/index.php (Most of Proton’s listed here)
LW 8 Demo’s by Newtek http://www.newtek.com/products/lightwave/product/demos.html
LW9 Demo's by Newtek http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/lw9_demos.php
Spinquad list of tutorials http://www.spinquad.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=40
Kurv Studio www.kurvstudios.com
3d Training Online http://www.3dtrainingonline.com/ – by SplineGod
Dan Ablan www.3dgarage.com
Simply Lightwave www.simplylightwave.com
puff and larkin http://www.puffandlarkin.com/lightwave/tutorials/character_modelling/
Lost Pencil www.lostpencil.com
Desktop Images http://www.desktopimages.com/index.shtml
Toby Gaines Smoothing tutorial http://www.tobygaines.com/smoothing.html
Starbase1’s Lightwave Ringed Planet http://www.starbase1.co.uk/tutring.htm
Silkrooster’s Video’s http://www.silkrooster.com/tutorials.php
Silkrooster’s list of tip’s tricks and how-to’s http://www.silkrooster.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=17
Second Reality modeling tutorialshttp://www.secondreality.ch/tutorials/tutorials.html
CGTutorials http://www.cgtutorials.com/c5/NewTek_Lightwave_3D
Asile FXhttp://www.asilefx.com/products_tutorials.htm
Tutor FXhttp://www.tutorfx.com/

Books
Inside Lightwave 8 by Dan Ablan
Lightwave 3D 8 Texturing by Leigh van der Byl
Essential Lightwave 3D by Timothy Albee
Lightwave 3D [8] Cartoon Character Creation vol 1 and 2 by Jonny Gorden

Forums
Newteks http://www.newtek.com/forums/
Spinquad http://www.spinquad.com/forums/
Kurv Studio www.kurvstudios.com/forum
Simply Lightwave http://forum.simplylightwave.com/
Lightwave Group V3 http://www.lwg3d.com/v3/index.htm
CGTalk http://forums.cgsociety.org/
3Drecursion http://3drecursions.com/forum/index.php
Silkrooster’s www.silkrooster.com/forum

Wiki’s
Wiki3Dpedia www.silkrooster.com/wiki
BeeVee’s Lightwiki http://www.lightwiki.com/wiki/mediawiki-1.4.4/index.php?title=Main_Page
Wiki CG, Computer Graphic Encyclopedia http://www.wikicg.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
Darkling Simulations http://www.darksim.com/dswiki/index.php/Main_Page

Plug – in databases
Flay www.flay.com
Wiki3dpedia at http://www.silkrooster.com/wiki/index.php?title=Plug_ins

If I missed anyone my apologies as this is going to be a growing database. Anyone wishing to be listed, please pm me or access my forum and post a message.
Silk

ShawnStovall
07-03-2006, 07:23 PM
I would seriously recommend getting Inside LightWave [8] once you run into some money. As I have found out the hard way you can't live on tutorials alone. You need a good learning base.

DiedonD
07-04-2006, 07:47 AM
Dan is the way forward. BUT in DVD's, I strongly wont recomend his books for a beginner.

Also after you go through various tools... and lets say they dont fit you all that very well... then theres always the possibility that you can combine them so as a new technique that is best of your liking can be born.

kjhentermedia
07-04-2006, 10:04 AM
A good site recoomended by my Animation instructor for my Summer course is:
www.nerdbooks.com
The book costs about $25 !!! Definetly less than at Amazon or Barnes and Noble bookstores.
I'm a "newbie" too. Need to meet adeadline for a:5 second creation due ASAP! Any help would be also appreciated.....

dablan
07-04-2006, 12:14 PM
As silkrooster pointed out, Scott Cameron's site is the place to go for free tutorials.

Diedond, thanks for the nod. But remember that those books are months and months of work, and while it may not have worked for you, it might be beneficial to someone else.

There is of course, great tutorials directly on NewTek's site.

ShawnStovall
07-04-2006, 06:43 PM
Do you have plans on making an Inside LightWave 9?

dablan
07-04-2006, 09:58 PM
Plans?
How about the chapter I wrote today? :)


Yep, Inside LightWave 9 has been in progress.... should be out in a couple of months.

SplineGod
07-04-2006, 11:13 PM
I'm more interested in the 3D side of things, but if any of you know/have some good introductory tutorials (see below) for LightWave 8.5 + Modeler could you please send me the files/links. Thanks very much.

By 'introductory', I mean the type of tutorial that goes in the direction of "Building your first model" or similar. Also something that explains the tools etc.

Ive got several hours of free videos on my site and theres hours and hours on KURVs site that are also free. :)

CreepinJesus
07-05-2006, 02:53 AM
Thanks everyone :)...I hope you're always this helpful...!

DiedonD
07-05-2006, 07:00 AM
Diedond, thanks for the nod. But remember that those books are months and months of work, and while it may not have worked for you, it might be beneficial to someone else.


Yeah but I think books cannot bring smoothness into learning as a DVD can. In DVD's, theres no information to skip, hide, lose. ALL what is beeing said, can be VIEWED live being done right there and then, and by a well known creditable artist. Now firstly nothing beats that. Seeing an artist work is the best learning experience of all, especially if he is talking to you all the time and teaching you specifically.

Instead of reading, and figuring out where to do what you just did, you see it instead. Why bother reading when its viewable?

Arent DVD's too made of months and months of work?

Im sure that books can be a second step forward, but not in the crystal clear positive zero start. After some solid Viewable, memorizing has occured, then picking up references from there is far more easier.

DVD's also helps with anxiety with the illusion that theres a live comunication between the student and tutor. Furthermore the tutorial is totaly in control of the student, he can rewind how many times he wants to, and the such.

Now nobody can say that things work 100% like that to everyone, and there is no more to it than that! But its me. I stronlgy recomend starting with DVD's.

When will we have the LW9 Tutorial by the way? I know that its a metter of week after official release of NewTek LW9.... But do you have an approximation at least. You can go ahead and just type as securely as possible, mentioning months instead of dates. Like "oh somwhere in October, November and December the most" or like that. Just some slight hint of a deadline.

See ya...

dablan
07-05-2006, 07:09 AM
Actually, my new books and DVDs have taken me close to 15 years to create. That is how much time I've put in learning LightWave, this industry, publishing, and more. :)

As for the LW9 video training Diedond, let's say it's very soon. That's not October, or Sept, or August.

mattclary
07-05-2006, 08:05 AM
Diedond, it mainly depends on the person. Some people do better with videos, some are better with books. Personally, I prefer the written word over videos.

dablan
07-05-2006, 09:07 AM
I'm a fan of both actually. The Apple Certified books from PeachPit are really good - you can get through them quickly and see results right away. One reason I like books is that I can get away from the computer, read up on the software, and soak it in. Videos are great for following tutorials and as Diedon said, see it in action.

BusyWolf
07-06-2006, 03:01 AM
As for the LW9 video training Diedond, let's say it's very soon. That's not October, or Sept, or August.

Dan, I read this after I sent the message and that sounds like in the ball park to me! Thanks! :thumbsup:

SplineGod
07-06-2006, 12:44 PM
Arent DVD's too made of months and months of work?

Im sure that books can be a second step forward, but not in the crystal clear positive zero start. After some solid Viewable, memorizing has occured, then picking up references from there is far more easier.


See ya...

I like books for reference. 3D is a visual intensive medium that I dont think books in many cases can adequetly cover. Books take a ALOT longer to create for a fraction of the information that DVDs can cover. Books are also going to be edited down to fit into a certain amount of pages.
DVDs are just easier to create and a great deal of information and discussion can be put into them that you just cant get into a book.
Also technology is making it easier and more convenient to carry videos around to watch them on portable devices. Ive been using and teaching LW since before it was called LW and have found that videos are the most efficient way for the author and student to learn. :)

dablan
07-06-2006, 12:47 PM
Good points - which is why I started including hours of video tutorials on a DVD that ships with my books. Best of both worlds!

Safe Harbor
07-06-2006, 01:48 PM
Dan's books and DVDs have been a staple for a LONG time. He provides a TON of information that both beginner and intermediate users can benefit from, and nowhere else can you get as MUCH information. We recommend his tutorials, written and video, for everyone who is new to LW. They cover everything you need to know and then take you further when you're ready.

colkai
07-06-2006, 02:01 PM
Amen to that, my bookshelves groan under the weight of his imparted knowledge. :D

I'd also be remiss if I didn't mention Dave Jerrards "LW Applied" books, these and Dans represent the cornerstone of my information in LW.

I've got several DVD's, some of which I've even yet to load up, I'm "old school" and prefer to sit and read the written word. Plus, it gets me away from the PC occasionally, much to my wifes relief. :p

Matt
07-06-2006, 02:14 PM
I'd like to put another vote in for Simply LightWave, awesome tutorials on there!

colkai
07-06-2006, 02:20 PM
Agreed, (they are some of the one's I've yet to watch :foreheads

kurv
07-06-2006, 04:45 PM
Dan, Larry, Wordware, and KURV all have the best LightWave 3D training available, bar none!!!

KURV studios has hundreds of hours of training available free, and we offer support as well.

If you are looking for the best prices on LightWave 3D software, we (KURV studios) are the #1 reseller and has the best price available on the upgrade!

If you have any questions, feel free to call us anytime at 818-237-5581!

Penforhire
07-06-2006, 05:12 PM
There's a ton of free training material floating around but it is not organized and presented as well as the paid-for stuff. If you have more time on your hands and can deal with some frustration then chew on all the free tut's out there. I get frustrated too easily so I knew I needed more structure and continuity (not that I haven't printed out a couple-hundred free tut pages too...).

I see value in both books and videos. Much easier to find a reference section in a book than "where was that shown?" in a typical video (some vids appear more indexed). I bought Dan's ILW8 book before LW was shipped to me! Well worth it considering the impossibly large topic. I am also diving into several of the Kurv videos. Again, worth every penny to me.

Dan's book got me understanding many basics and Kurv's (Gerald Abraham's) Car Studio vids pushed my modeling farther faster than I thought was possible. Some vids have more "meat" than others but I haven't found one to bad-mouth yet.

JeffRutan
07-06-2006, 05:45 PM
CreepinJesus: I think you will find this forum to be very helpful! A great way to learn is to start with some of the great training materials listed here. Then start your own significant project and post your progress in the Work In Progress Gallery. Your fellow users there will help you learn and improve your project beyond what you may have thought you were capable of doing. Also, other users will encourage you to stick with it and finish with as much quality as you are willing to do. You will also learn from studying the wires and surfacing and rendering techniques in other project posts in that gallery. I know I have learned a tremendous amount in a short time from all of this.

I also highly recommend investing in the fine training videos from both 3DGarage and KURV! I have purchased and thoroughly appreciate items from both stores as more than worth the money to get the full value out of my base product investments.

Welcome to the community!

-Jeff

colkai
07-07-2006, 05:18 AM
I'd certainly take some time to download as much free video training from every source possible if you don't have the money to buy commercial training.

Places like Simply Lightwave have some to get you going, as PenForHire says though, sourcing it isn't always simple, when in doubt I go here for guidance...

http://members.shaw.ca/lightwavetutorials/Main_Menu.htm

:)

dablan
07-07-2006, 07:06 PM
Dan, Larry, Wordware, and KURV all have the best LightWave 3D training available, bar none!!!



Thanks Wes -
let us not forget SimplyLightwave.com and TutorFX. Also good stuff.

davedunn
07-17-2006, 06:31 PM
Speaking as someone who is about a thrid through Inside Lightwave 8, I must say it is the best all around book on the subject you will find (will refrain from naming the other LW tomes that don't measure up). Do yourself a favor and don't eat for a few days or something and buy this book.

fyborg_1138
07-17-2006, 08:47 PM
In all of my educational experiences I prefer and do best when I

1: Watch how it is done.
2: Read how to do it and follow along in the written tutorial.
3: practice, practice, practice.

I find it's best for me to have multiple modes of learning rather than simply sitting and watching a video, reading a book, or playing with the software. Each teaching method reinforces the others. The videos and text all allow me to ask myself, "OK, now how did they do that again?"

That's why I like books with both video and written tutorials included. Skipping any one of the steps mentioned above significantly reduces my absorption of "new stuff."

It was all of the free tutorials online that I looked at which prompted me to buy the software. If those freebies had not benn available, I would have been less enthusiastic about putting down a significant chunk of change for the software.

After I bought the software (8.5), well, acutally,AS I bought the software, I also bought the standard complement of tutorials that would help me figure out the program. These included "Essential LW3D" by Albee, "inside LW8" by Ablan and "1001 Tips and Tricks," by a bunch of people. All of them approach the training in a different way, and I find all of them quite useful.

T-Light
07-17-2006, 09:13 PM
I'll post another Dan Ablan recursive, 'Excellent', fun to read and learn while you go, DVD's are great in learning something specific, but when it comes to details there's more in a huge book on your shelf than you'll find in any CD/DVD.

Not to say the DVD's are worth less, they're just more specific to a particular need. If your stuck, go Ablan's tombs, you won't regret it. If you need specifics go to Kurv and Splinegod, if you need more, go further, your choice :)