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Fausto
08-30-2005, 04:59 PM
Asus A8N SLI Premium MB.
AMD Athlon 64 x2 4400+ (2x1MB Cache)
eVGA d. GeForce 6800Ultra 256MB PCIE Dual DVI
Antec TX1050B SOHO Case 500W PSU
2GB Kingston PC3200 DDR SDRAM
Maxtor D. 250GB SATA 16MB Cache

Cost me 2300.00 (CDN)

How are the GForce cards for LW?
These are the features and specs

- CineFX 3.0 Engine
- UltraShadow II Technology
- Intellisample 3.0 Technology
- Superscalar 16-Pipe GPU Architecture
- Adaptable Programmable Video Processor
- 64-Bit Texture Filtering and Blending
- Unified Driver Architecture (UDA)
- nView Multi-Display Technology
- Digital Vibrance Control 3.0 Technology
- PCI Express Certified
- NVIDIA SLI Technology
- NVIDIA PureVideo Technology
- High-Speed GDDR3 Memory Interface
- 256-Bit Memory Interface with Advanced Memory Control
- 128-Bit Studio-Precision Computation
- Full-Speed 32-Bit Color Precision
- Integrated TV Encoder
- Dual 400MHz RAMDACs
- Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 Optimizations and OpenGL® 2 Optimizations and Support

Specifications
Graphics Engine: Nvidia Geforce 6800 Ultra
Video Memory: 256 MB DDR3
Engine Clock: 400MHz
Memory Clock: 1100MHz(550MHz DDR)
Memory Interface: 256-bit 1.6ns (8x32) DDR3
RAMDAC: 400MHz
Bus Standard: PCI-E x16
TV-Out: S-Video
DVI: Dual DVI-I
VGA: Yes, with DVI-to-VGA Adapters

connerh
08-30-2005, 05:09 PM
Looks like a pretty solid setup, almost identical to mine, but what about a monitor? Also, are you just going to use stock cooling for your 4400+? I'd recommend getting a zalman 120mm hs+fan, as they have a tendency to keep that processor nice and cool.

Fausto
08-30-2005, 05:24 PM
Looks like a pretty solid setup, almost identical to mine, but what about a monitor? Also, are you just going to use stock cooling for your 4400+? I'd recommend getting a zalman 120mm hs+fan, as they have a tendency to keep that processor nice and cool.


Thanks for the tip about the fans,

The monitors I already had, they're 20in LCD Viewsonics VP2000S

DogBoy
08-31-2005, 02:44 AM
Though I luuuurve the Zalmans, the stock HSF is actually pretty good. Do it if the noise gets to you ;) (though if you're gonna do that go for Arctic Cooling NV5 as well, cos they're better than the default vid-cooler and MUCH quieter).

I'm running the 4600+ w/ 2x 6800GTs and it is very smooth. Enjoy your new machine :D

krimpr
08-31-2005, 05:27 AM
Hey cool, Fausto is a fellow Canuck. I think you'll be surprised at how cool your dual core runs. I just got a twin Opteron 275 Dual core machine and from what I can tell so far heat is not going to be a problem. Long renders on my old P4 helped to heat the basement, but this new one feels like ambient air temp on the exhaust side. (I wish I had an on-board utility for actual numbers, but it passes the "hand at the back" test easily.) I'm astounded. From what I understand (which admittadly is minimal) is that the elimination of the northbridge on the AMD dual cores drops heat production in a big way. I was reluctant to jump the Intel ship because they've always been good to me, but these dual cores are something else altogether.

Fausto
08-31-2005, 09:02 AM
Hey cool, Fausto is a fellow Canuck.

And seriously proud of it despite the regional scrapes :)

I changed my mind about one thing, I'm not sure that LW will benefit from this, but I'm going to take advantage of the SLI technology and add another card to the mix. I'm going to go with the 7800 GT line rather than the 6800. Apparently, the 6800Ultra is a discontinued card so I thought I would upgrade it. Sure it wil add another 540.00 to the price, but what the h**l, in for a penny, in for a pound.

Cheers,

mattclary
08-31-2005, 09:08 AM
Something I have noticed when looking at video cards recently, the 7800s claim to support OpenGL 2.0 whereas the 6x00 and lower claim 1.5. Isn't :lwicon: [9] supposed to use OpenGL 2.0? You might be making a better decision than you thought...

I wonder if the lower cards will actually support OpenGL 2.0 with driver updates?

Gaze
08-31-2005, 09:11 AM
Regarding price...been checking out new hardware lately myself and according to the local computer trader your HW list costs out to ~$1,500 (US, before tax). I guess that's about $1,800 (CAD)?

Fausto
08-31-2005, 09:12 AM
Something I have noticed when looking at video cards recently, the 7800s claim to support OpenGL 2.0 whereas the 6x00 and lower claim 1.5. Isn't :lwicon: [9] supposed to use OpenGL 2.0? You might be making a better decision than you thought...

I wonder if the lower cards will actually support OpenGL 2.0 with driver updates?

Actually the card (http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=256-P2-N376-AX&pwindow=features) the bigger brother to this one, that I orignally purchased did support OpenGL 2.0

Fausto
08-31-2005, 09:18 AM
Regarding price...been checking out new hardware lately myself and according to the local computer trader your HW list costs out to ~$1,500 (US, before tax). I guess that's about $1,800 (CAD)?

Ouch that hurts :)

It will cost me about 2600.00 when it's all said and done.. that's with a 3 year warranty and them doing the assembly.

DogBoy
08-31-2005, 09:42 AM
Hmmm! As you talk about monitors I'd guess you plan on working on LW over 2 monitors.

SLI is great for games, but if you wanna go multi-monitor forget it. It only works on one monitor.

Don't get me wrong I lurve having 2x6800GTs, it's cheaper than a Quadro, but better mult-monitor performance.

... and going SLI for BF2 or HL2 is fr**kin' cool :thumbsup:

Karmacop
08-31-2005, 09:42 AM
Matt, I think that is simply because on release the earlier cards only supported 1.5. Now that the opengl 2 drivers are release these cards now support ogl 2 too. I think anything that supports fragment programs supports open gl 2, which means the nvidia 5200 and greater.

Fausto
08-31-2005, 09:50 AM
SLI is great for games, but if you wanna go multi-monitor forget it. It only works on one monitor.




Well that sucks the farts out of shorts. I didn't know that SLI will disable the multi monitor setup. In that case, since I'm not a gamer, I'll have to stick with one card. I wanted the texture and OpenGL power for LW and C4D, not for games. I wonder, if you disable SLI will that give you back two monitors?

DogBoy
08-31-2005, 10:02 AM
Sorry, I didn't explain that well :)

I've got a SLI system:

Speedy-gojira
Athlon64 x2 4600+
Asus A8N-SLI
2x 6800GT PCIE (SLIed)
4GB DDR400
2x 73GB WD Raptor (System and Application drives)
2x 120GB WD CaviarSE (Mirrored Data drives)

SLI has 3 components (unless you've got one of those awesome Tyan dual-Opti mobos):
1) setting the PCI-E slots to "SLI" mode (splits the lanes over the 2 Slots), either physically or in BIOS
2) putting in the SLI bridge
3) Setting the driver in SLI mode

All you have to do is 1, so that your vid cards share the 16 lanes equally. forget 2 as it only allows the 2 cards to talk directly to share framebuffer info, and ignore Windows when it tells you you can turn on 3 ;)

I run my sytem normally in multi-monitor (not SLIing) mode:

1600x1200 for main app window
1280x1024 for menus (Surface editor, Stats, et al)

But if I want to game I turn on 3, reboot and frag. but you don't need to know about that :beerchug:

But the best bit about 2 cards is that they don't need to split their frame buffers over 2 monitors (unless you have waaaaaay too much desk-space) so OGL apps love them, as they don't need to use the crappy hardware clipping plane consumer cards have. :thumbsup:

Gaze
08-31-2005, 10:03 AM
Saw this add as well, which I think includes the upgraded video card you mentioned:

Asus A8N SLI Premium MB
AMD Athlon 64 x2 4400+
256MB GeForce 7800-GT OC 450/1050
250GB 8MB SATA2 HD
2GB Kingston PC-3200 DDR-400
ATX Case 450W PS
10/100/1000 Network Adapter
PCI 3D Sound
16X DVD RW Dual Layer Drive
3.5" Floppy
1yr P/L w/ Assembly

~$1770+tax (US) (what is current exchange rate?)

Except the case, HD, and warranty differ from your spec.

mattclary
08-31-2005, 11:02 AM
Yep, looking at nVidia's site, it looks like all the 6xxx cards support OpenGL 2.0 :hijack:

Sorry, I'll shut up now. :)

DC777
08-31-2005, 02:49 PM
Hey Gaze, where are you shopping at...can you forward the link?


Thanks,

DC777

Fausto
08-31-2005, 03:11 PM
Saw this add as well, which I think includes the upgraded video card you mentioned:

Asus A8N SLI Premium MB
AMD Athlon 64 x2 4400+
256MB GeForce 7800-GT OC 450/1050
250GB 8MB SATA2 HD
2GB Kingston PC-3200 DDR-400
ATX Case 450W PS
10/100/1000 Network Adapter
PCI 3D Sound
16X DVD RW Dual Layer Drive
3.5" Floppy
1yr P/L w/ Assembly

~$1770+tax (US) (what is current exchange rate?)
Except the case, HD, and warranty differ from your spec.

That basically is 2,019.86CDN plus Tax, (7%) 141.33 making it 2160.00 and change. Add to that the cost of shipping the system and the time delay of getting the system repaired, and it's a fair deal. The company that's doing the selling and the assembly is right in my backyard, so there won't be those costs.

Gaze
08-31-2005, 03:24 PM
Hey Gaze, where are you shopping at...can you forward the link?

Thanks,

DC777Just browsing the local computer trader. Not even sure it's best price avail. around here. Will check if they ad online...


Edit:
Here is a link to their site. ...referring to Package #4 (with options listed):
http://www.chipsandmemory.com/newsystems.htm

Gaze
08-31-2005, 03:42 PM
That basically is 2,019.86CDN plus Tax, (7%) 141.33 making it 2160.00 and change. Add to that the cost of shipping the system and the time delay of getting the system repaired, and it's a fair deal. The company that's doing the selling and the assembly is right in my backyard, so there won't be those costs.true true (except I don't think there would be tax)

Just mentioned the ad I happened to notice for reference, since it had most of your spec'd items.

Enjoy your new system :thumbsup: