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Carm3D
07-19-2004, 08:12 PM
Hello!

I learned a new trick recently with rigging and wanted to share it with you all. I thought it would be a snap to do a videograb of a rigging session. Boy was I wrong! Proton makes it look so easy..

Here's the video.. Use Quicktime 6 or some other player that supports MPEG-4.

Rigging the Clavicle & Upper Arm (http://www.carm3d.net/media/RigClav.MP4)

I hope this helps some of you.. Enjoy!

-edit: If you have problems viewing it, right-click on the link and save it to your computer. The filename should end with .MP4 -some people are experiencing it renamed to .MOV which means it won't work.

bloontz
07-19-2004, 09:09 PM
I got this weird error-

Couldn't open the file "RigClav.mov" because a bad public movie atom was found in the movie.


I'm using QT 6.5 on winxp.

Carm3D
07-19-2004, 09:11 PM
right-click on the link and save it to you hard drive.. the filaname is supposed to end with .MP4

Enjoy. :)

bloontz
07-19-2004, 09:29 PM
Thanks, that is an interesting rig.

caesar
07-20-2004, 11:09 AM
Thanks

Matt
07-20-2004, 11:12 AM
No Carm! No! Your avatar is even more disturbing now! :)

Tom Wood
07-20-2004, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Matt
No Carm! No! Your avatar is even more disturbing now! :)

Spooky!

There's the emotional response called 'the uncanny valley' where people accept a non-human character up to a point near realistic, then negatively reject it when it comes close, but not close enough to real. We do better when we can fill in the gaps, so a talking donkey is easier to accept than, well, Carm's avatar. :p

http://www.arclight.net/~pdb/glimpses/valley.html

cresshead
07-20-2004, 02:12 PM
can you recompress it with sorrenson 3...that codec you use is not a widley surported format so you'll mis out on many people being able to see it...and i've tried re naming to mp4...no go....
sorrenson 3 rules and is surported by all recent quicktime players so people do not have to spend an evening downloading a player just to see one .mov!!!

...ya see some of us are STILL on dial up!
...end of rant


most everyone uses sorrenson 3 with 4:1 audio compression for use as tutorials videos or they use the techsmith codec and avi format.

Chazz
07-20-2004, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by Matt
No Carm! No! Your avatar is even more disturbing now! :)

I think his avatar is doing kegel excercises!

Carm3D
07-20-2004, 03:11 PM
Chazz,

> I think his avatar is doing kegel excercises!

I had to look that one up.. That was funny! :D

Cresshead,

Sorry no.. I paid $175 for the professional MPEG-4 codec. That's what I'll use. Packing over 8 minutes of video at this quality into 4.6 MB is pretty impressive. Get Quicktime 6.5 and it will play it fine (as long as it's ending with .MP4).

Ceasar, Bloontz,

You're welcome. :cool:

Macet01
07-20-2004, 04:35 PM
Carm,

That is really interesting. I think I need to watch it a few more times before it really sinks in. Thanks for the tut!!!

For those who can't play it. I went to 3ivx (http://www.3ivx.com) and downloaded thier codec. I was then able to play the tut through Windows Media Player.

cresshead
07-20-2004, 05:41 PM
okay tried the http://www.3ivx.com/ codec and it plays so we solved that problem...the tutorial looks good...will take time toevaluate it as it looks interesting


steve

caesar
07-21-2004, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by Carm3D


Sorry no.. I paid $175 for the professional MPEG-4 codec. [/B]

Doesnt Quick Time Pro do the same for 29 US? Anyway, I think thers only a mac Pro version

For internet I always use sorensen, but mp4 is *king* in quality

Carm3D
07-21-2004, 12:23 PM
> Doesnt Quick Time Pro do the same for 29 US? Anyway, I think thers only a mac Pro version

I have Quicktime Pro (for the PC). It does export to MPEG-4 but the encoder is no where near as efficient as Sorrenson's MPEG-4 Pro codec. This does a 2-pass variable bit-rate compression and it's remarkable how much you can squeeze it.. Look at my video.. 24 minutes of video in only 9 MB! Granted it's only 6 frames per second but that's still pretty impressive.

There is a new codec coming out that will be the new king: H.264/AVC

I know... not the catchiest of names... Read about it here (http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/h264.html). It is like a more efficient MPEG-4 that can deliver at any resolution (even hi-def video).

harlan
07-21-2004, 12:35 PM
Speaking of Avatars...Macet you rule!!!!! ;)

Carm - nice rig. oh the site's cool to. great job. I can't believe you had to look up kegel exercises though...that's too funny. I'd keep that on the down low if I were you! ;)

Carm3D
07-21-2004, 12:40 PM
Thanks Harlan.. Be sure to look at the second rigging video (http://images.shockwave.com/afassets/flash/this_land.swf).

Oh wait.. that's the wrong link.. Here it is (http://vbulletin.newtek.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26051). :D

caesar
07-22-2004, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by Carm3D
>. Look at my video.. 24 minutes of video in only 9 MB! Granted it's only 6 frames per second but that's still pretty impressive.

There is a new codec coming out that will be the new king: H.264/AVC

I

Wo, i didnt noticed it was 24 min...:eek:
Yeah, i read about this h264/r2d2/tcpo codec, looks promising..but what about pixlet, the OS 10.3 pixar´s codec = "Pixlet provides 20-25:1 compression, allowing a 75MB/sec series of frames to be delivered in a 3MB/sec movie, similar to DV data rates." ? (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/quicktime)
Anyone?