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Ade
04-19-2004, 09:51 AM
Talk about NAB findings here...

Nvidia gelato Hardware renderer
(Newtek+ Apple listening?)

Already Maya 6 (will use Mach O aka Xcode)

Apple FCP HD, Motion, XSAN, Shake 3.5,
new portables

Adobe A.E 6.5



What time do you guys think LW8 will be announced?

juanjgon
04-19-2004, 09:55 AM
XSI 4.0 will be announced to ...

lasvideo
04-19-2004, 10:09 AM
Its 9 am here in Vegas and the Newtek Virtual Booth broadcast
is NOT on the air. Technical difficulties?

Limbus
04-19-2004, 10:15 AM
Yeah. Whats up with the Live Stream?

Florian

nixx
04-19-2004, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Limbus
Yeah. Whats up with the Live Stream?

Nothing. That's the problem ;)

nick

Ade
04-19-2004, 10:23 AM
URL for stream is?

kml12
04-19-2004, 10:26 AM
It's late like 8 :D

nixx
04-19-2004, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Ade
URL for stream is?
http://www.newtek.com/shows/nab/2004/v-booth.html

I think it's up now.

nick

Limbus
04-19-2004, 10:29 AM
Its on! :)

mms://newtektv.com/nab2004

Almost...

Limbus
04-19-2004, 10:33 AM
Im not seeing any content???
Florian

nixx
04-19-2004, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Limbus
Im not seeing any content???
Florian

not even getting a connection yet.

"Due to Technical Difficulties, the start of the April 19 stream will be delayed".

nick

robinson
04-19-2004, 10:38 AM
Due to Technical Difficulties,
the start of the April 19 stream will be delayed. :eek:

mattclary
04-19-2004, 10:48 AM
I guess they're running L8. :rolleyes:

harlan
04-19-2004, 10:52 AM
Nvidia has this in their product datasheet for Gelato:

"Most major studios use Linux, with Windows a major secondary choice" (clearly a horsesh!t phrase, but that's not the point) "Gelato supports both, and will support Mac OS X if the film industry demands it"

So I suggest you start demanding it! ;)


Originally posted by Ade
Talk about NAB findings here...

Nvidia gelato Hardware renderer
(Newtek+ Apple listening?)

Limbus
04-19-2004, 10:59 AM
works now

Limbus
04-19-2004, 11:02 AM
Is immortel that alexnader nikopol comic?

The comic rocks

nixx
04-19-2004, 11:02 AM
aaaand... we 're on.

nick

Ade
04-19-2004, 11:04 AM
Who was it that argued media player is better quality stream than QT?...
Macworlds look far better..
Also too much background noise but maybe that cant be helped due to the nature of the show, it aint a keynote.

Why are they still talkin bout lw7.5?
Argh get to the goodness!

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 11:06 AM
Is there anyone in the audience there? Looks like they're demoing to the cameramen...

Limbus
04-19-2004, 11:06 AM
the sound is kinda crappy but the picture quality is ok for 314kb/sec.

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:07 AM
so who's the dude talking now?

Limbus
04-19-2004, 11:08 AM
Give us LW8!!!

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 11:09 AM
Yeah, I don't think the quality is too bad... but that background noise... yikes!

Limbus
04-19-2004, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by dmg3d
Is there anyone in the audience there? Looks like they're demoing to the cameramen...
It looks like two other newtek reps are watching...

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:11 AM
nice demo of after effects so far???!?!?!?! wtf?

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Matt
so who's the dude talking now?

Tim Johnson

LW8 scheduled for 10:30 PT... probably later...

js33
04-19-2004, 11:13 AM
Why is he demoing AE? I think the got the wrong demo guy. Hehehe

3DEagle
04-19-2004, 11:14 AM
Hi mates,

Can you get it to work with Windows Mediplayer 9? For me it only works with the %&#! tiny little web page window...

Any help appreciated

Ole

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:15 AM
I can't hang around for that! the sun is out here, I'm going for a bike ride, or maybe the pub!

Maybe it's me, but I'm just not that fussed about the VT, I'm sure it's way cool and all that!!!

Have fun!

Limbus
04-19-2004, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by 3DEagle
Hi mates,

Can you get it to work with Windows Mediplayer 9? For me it only works with the %&#! tiny little web page window...

Any help appreciated

Ole

have you tried this link?
mms://newtektv.com/nab2004

Florian

Limbus
04-19-2004, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Matt
I can't hang around for that! the sun is out here, I'm going for a bike ride, or maybe the pub!

Cheers

js33
04-19-2004, 11:16 AM
What screen res are u running? You can click "view in external player" if you need to adjust the size

Ade
04-19-2004, 11:17 AM
Open your media player then goto open url and paste the url as stated above..

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by 3DEagle
Hi mates,

Can you get it to work with Windows Mediplayer 9? For me it only works with the %&#! tiny little web page window...

Any help appreciated

Ole

Use this:
mms://newtektv.com/nab2004

or I think there was a link (on the little web page window) if you wanted to view as stand alone

Ade
04-19-2004, 11:19 AM
Hes doing OK because hes taking the angle showing ppl with this type of software you can make your money bak so quick. Good approach cause many ppl wanna see in real time how theyd make their money back..



hey he just said lw8 is now shipping!

Limbus
04-19-2004, 11:20 AM
lw should be up within 10 minutes.

3DEagle
04-19-2004, 11:22 AM
Thanks a lot Limbus & dmg3D!

Do you eat a lot of vitamines...you seems to be a lot smarter than me :(

Thanks again

Ole

Limbus
04-19-2004, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by 3DEagle
Thanks a lot Limbus & dmg3D!

Do you eat a lot of vitamines...you seems to be a lot smarter than me :(

caffein are vitamines, not?

js33
04-19-2004, 11:23 AM
I think the Toaster interface is pretty cool but I so far have done all my editing/compositing in AE because it doesn't require me to buy a $2500 add in board. And most of the stuff I edit (animations) aren't very long so AE works well.

Cheers,
JS

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by 3DEagle
Thanks a lot Limbus & dmg3D!

Do you eat a lot of vitamines...you seems to be a lot smarter than me :(

Thanks again

Ole

Doritos and Mountain Dew :D

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:24 AM
Bring back Proton and Deuce! The ONLY double act!!! :)

js33
04-19-2004, 11:25 AM
I thought you went to the pub Matt? :D

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:25 AM
Bloody stuttering Window Media, it sucks!!! USE Quicktime!!!

lwaddict
04-19-2004, 11:26 AM
Is it just me or does this sound really REALLY bad?

The presentation LOOKS good but man, do these guys
need directional mics or what?

LW is shipping? Kewl.
I'll now gleefully listen to the garbbled presentation.

Someone say that Lightwave was up next?

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:26 AM
I heard him say LightWave! So I stayed for a while!

js33
04-19-2004, 11:26 AM
Mines not studdering just the people are. :D

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Matt
Bloody stuttering Window Media, it sucks!!! USE Quicktime!!!

I second that!

Limbus
04-19-2004, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Matt
Bloody stuttering Window Media, it sucks!!! USE Quicktime!!!

mine runs smooooth on a poor p4 1.6 but the sound is soooo bad. could tehy please turn of the mics in the audience?

flo

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:29 AM
Yeah but you're in Texas, I'm in the UK :(

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by lwaddict
Is it just me or does this sound really REALLY bad?

...sounds REALLY bad...

Limbus
04-19-2004, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by Matt
Yeah but you're in Texas, I'm in the UK :(

Berlin ,Texas??
Im in Berlin, Germany and it is really smooth but I have a killer connection here

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:31 AM
yeah sound is too noisy here too, I can hear some dudes talking about lost projectors now!!!

Limbus
04-19-2004, 11:31 AM
Why dont they show some irene screensaver in the breaks between promotions?

js33
04-19-2004, 11:32 AM
Well if you've ever been to NAB you would know that it is very noisy there. But they could adjust the mics or something.

Cheers,
JS

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:32 AM
Wayhay the green light is on!!! whoohooo!!!! :)

Ade
04-19-2004, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Limbus
Why dont they show some irene screensaver in the breaks between promotions?

You mean there isnt?

nixx
04-19-2004, 11:33 AM
Was that guy demonstrating the new welding tool in Lightwave 8 ?

;)

nick

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 11:33 AM
Damn... I've been yelling at my monitor for them to turn off those external mics... but they're not listening...

jds580s
04-19-2004, 11:33 AM
LOL! I think so

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:34 AM
All I can see now is some guy welding??!?!?!?!

Ade
04-19-2004, 11:34 AM
This is th worst stream ever...

Who was it that defending Mediaplayer streams over Apples QT? LOL go home and dont make me laugh...macworlds destroy this feed.

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:35 AM
Yay! It's Deuce go dude!!!

js33
04-19-2004, 11:35 AM
This looks better than Macworld on my machine.

Duece is up now

Ade
04-19-2004, 11:35 AM
LW8 LW8!!!!

My stream better not quit!

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 11:37 AM
"...should be getting LW8 in the next 10 days..."

Limbus
04-19-2004, 11:37 AM
go guys!!!

Psyhke
04-19-2004, 11:38 AM
Stream is good here (northern US). Sound is really bad because of too much background noise! Someone let them know! :eek:

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:38 AM
still not a fan of that interface, but hey, too late now eh! ;)

nixx
04-19-2004, 11:39 AM
Hey, Deuce lost a few pounds :p

or maybe it's just that he cut a few inches of his hair...

hehehe

DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT SOUND !

nick

Ade
04-19-2004, 11:41 AM
Multiple select with a marque in layout..I never knew this!


I think NAB isnt doing it justice, maybe they should have had a live IRC channel for us to ask em questions in realtime..


NEWTEK you done a good job im glad u waited.

robinson
04-19-2004, 11:42 AM
any LW8 news :p LOL

lwaddict
04-19-2004, 11:42 AM
Just open your pics of Irene and stare at them whilst listening to the crowd sound fx...

the guy up there now can't beat it.

BUT...
he IS demoing 8 right now.

Limbus
04-19-2004, 11:42 AM
they could at least stop broadcasting the voice of the vt sales rep... :(

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 11:45 AM
I'm hearing the production guys more than Deuce... talking about mics...

retinajoy
04-19-2004, 11:45 AM
Smooooth playing video. Shame about the sound. Struggling to hear what Deuce is saying. I can nearly here the tech guys n the background speak clearer.

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:45 AM
LOL! I can hear him too! Be funny if he started talking about what he does in his spare time!

jds580s
04-19-2004, 11:46 AM
much better audio now!

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 11:46 AM
Oh man!... they're using the mic that's in the camera... no wonder...


hay it just got better!! I guess they heard me!

lwaddict
04-19-2004, 11:46 AM
Some moron just spent a few seconds actually "tapping" the mics. LOL.

Why do the audience questions come through clearer than the presenter?

OMG...did they just fix it!?!

I CAN HEAR HIM!

NEWTEK IS READING THE BOARD GUYS!

retinajoy
04-19-2004, 11:46 AM
Greaaat! The sound is sorted!!!!!:D :D :D

Limbus
04-19-2004, 11:46 AM
they are listening

thanks

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:46 AM
thank foook for that!!!! sound sorted!

lwaddict
04-19-2004, 11:47 AM
THANKS NEWTEK!

QUE MUCHO BUENO!

anieves
04-19-2004, 11:47 AM
no bg noise anymore!

Thanks guys!

Psyhke
04-19-2004, 11:47 AM
Ahhh..relief. Sounds much better. Thanks!

nixx
04-19-2004, 11:47 AM
Oh, what a relief for my ears... Sound is now waaaay better.

nick

hunter
04-19-2004, 11:48 AM
Hey how 'bout a rail extender deuce?

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:49 AM
now if I can just have more than 1 frame per 10 seconds I'll be happy, sound is fine but the video sucks (here that is).

Noclar7
04-19-2004, 11:49 AM
haha... dude was like "I hate viper"

Dueces response " have you seen Fprime :)"

anieves
04-19-2004, 11:49 AM
Viper is being worked on! not on 8.0 tho.

good news keep 'em coming!

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:51 AM
what's annoying is that it's fine for like 4 seconds then it starts stuttering, am I just doing something daft!!??!

robinson
04-19-2004, 11:51 AM
LOL, the same that you familiar with (7.5 ?) :D

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:52 AM
BS Galactica looks nice!

tudor
04-19-2004, 11:53 AM
Hmm.. if Newtek are monitoring this thread, then can we take requests on what we want to see? ;)

Limbus
04-19-2004, 11:54 AM
the reel looks nice
can i dl it somewhere?

lwaddict
04-19-2004, 11:54 AM
RE: Requests...you never know until you ask.

BS Galactica DOES look great...
didn't care for the movie but the fx were nice.

nixx
04-19-2004, 11:55 AM
"The forest" was the last I expected to hear for background music !

I knew NT were still cool...

nick

lwaddict
04-19-2004, 11:56 AM
WOW.

I just heard that Ceasar's is now empty...
the whole crowd is lining up for "Spy Kids 3D DVD giveaways" at our booth!

Free drinks can do that to ya.

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by nixx
"The forest" was the last I expected to hear for background music !

I knew NT were still cool...

nick

"The Forest" - can you enlighten me? I like it...

tokyo drifter
04-19-2004, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Ade
This is th worst stream ever...

Who was it that defending Mediaplayer streams over Apples QT? LOL go home and dont make me laugh...macworlds destroy this feed. Works perfect for me, hasn't stopped to rebuffer or anything. On the other hand I have never been able to watch a Macworld stream, either it has horrible compression artifacts when anyone moves a limb or stops and stutters horribly even when played on a Mac.

Matt
04-19-2004, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by lwaddict
WOW.

I just heard that Ceasar's is now empty...
the whole crowd is lining up for "Spy Kids 3D DVD giveaways" at our booth!

LOL!!!

lwaddict
04-19-2004, 12:01 PM
LOL...nothing's wrong with the feed.

I'm watching on a 17" flat panel with the speakers up a hair, at least for now, and no troubles whatsoever.

lwaddict
04-19-2004, 12:04 PM
"Even when played on a Mac"...LOL

way too general bud.

There ARE slow Macs out there...
and slow internet connections...
and lousy internet providers...

Lots of reasons that you may not be getting this feed right...
the least of which has anything to do with the old "Mac vs. PC" argument.

Good luck. Gotta go back and watch some more.

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by tokyo drifter
On the other hand I have never been able to watch a Macworld stream...

I thought I read (somewhere on these boards) that the main difference with the availablity of the streams is the sheer numbers... Macworld vs Newtek...

I don't think this is too bad... except for th hiccups...

Ade
04-19-2004, 12:06 PM
This guy reminds me of Tony Robins.

http://www.joshhinds.com/images/speakers_images/trobbins2.jpg

tokyo drifter
04-19-2004, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by lwaddict
"Even when played on a Mac"...LOL

way too general bud.

There ARE slow Macs out there...
and slow internet connections...
and lousy internet providers...

Lots of reasons that you may not be getting this feed right...
the least of which has anything to do with the old "Mac vs. PC" argument.

Good luck. Gotta go back and watch some more. The reason I mentioned it was that I started watching the Macworld QT stream on my Pentium 4 2.4 GHz and wasn't getting good results so I tried it on my Dual G4 800Mhz and the QT stream did play better but was still horrible, and this is over a T1 connection.

felix_man
04-19-2004, 12:24 PM
Getting no picture here. :(

wacom
04-19-2004, 12:26 PM
If I use Mozilla I get a picture...if I use IE it get nothing...strange...

I hope they save the stream and compress it so we can view it later....I only have DSL at 256K...

blatje
04-19-2004, 12:32 PM
download this codec if you get no picture

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/9series/codecs/vcm.aspx

nemac4
04-19-2004, 12:34 PM
hmm,.. is anyone getting audio fron the reels?

Ade
04-19-2004, 12:35 PM
Whens the next stream of lw8 playing?

lwaddict
04-19-2004, 12:36 PM
No audio on the reels and dead right now...
but it's not the stream.

Appears to be the pilot of the Toaster that should
be streaming right now, not the feed.

Oh look, it's up again.

Is that Phillip?

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Ade
Whens the next stream of lw8 playing?

I think it was 2pm PT

That showing of LW8 was like an afterthought... "hey guys, we have this lw8 thing sittin around, wanna show that?" ;)

felix_man
04-19-2004, 12:46 PM
blatje: Thanks but still no picture. I have tried the in page and external link as well... Any ideas?

tokyo drifter
04-19-2004, 12:52 PM
This guy demoing now is really unprofessional. Those lens flares are hurting my eyes.

tokyo drifter
04-19-2004, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by dmg3d
I think it was 2pm PT

That showing of LW8 was like an afterthought... "hey guys, we have this lw8 thing sittin around, wanna show that?" ;) It looks like Proton was L8 or something so Deuce had to wing it. Hopefully Proton will be there at 2:00.

nemac4
04-19-2004, 12:56 PM
Those are the ugliest lower thirds I've ever seen.

anieves
04-19-2004, 12:57 PM
here is the schedule:

http://www.newtek.com/shows/nab/2004/schedule.html

I think Proton was still sleeping for the first LW8 demo:D

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 01:45 PM
More LW8 stuff on...

TSpyrison
04-19-2004, 03:17 PM
There is a guy lying on the floor infront of the stage...

dmg3d
04-19-2004, 03:24 PM
... hey, get comfy... kick yer shoes off... can I get you anything? a pillow maybe?

jeez

beverins
04-19-2004, 06:51 PM
I missed today - yes, I know its running for the next few days, but it would be nice to have the complete collection... so, ,did anyone save the stream to disk?

tokyo drifter
04-19-2004, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by beverins
I missed today - yes, I know its running for the next few days, but it would be nice to have the complete collection... so, ,did anyone save the stream to disk? I don't think that you missed anything, I watched it all day and there was only a couple lightwave demos and they were basically the same ones they did last siggraph. But I must say that Proton and Deuce did a great job demoing, it was also good to hear Deuce talk about Fprime and the plans for opening up the SDK.

Matt
04-20-2004, 11:12 AM
Anyone else have no picture????? (20 April Stream)

I can hear it, can't see it?!!!!

nixx
04-20-2004, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by Matt
Anyone else have no picture????? (20 April Stream)

I can hear it, can't see it?!!!!

Audio and video fine this end. Seems better than yesterday, too (or maybe it's just me).

nick

Barred
04-20-2004, 12:14 PM
Apart from about 1:30h ago everything is smooth here.

After 10 months the next few days are going tobe so hard waiting for a package through the door :)

Matt
04-20-2004, 12:32 PM
still can't see anything :(

could yesterday, can't today (downloaded the codec mentioned earlier too)

archiea
04-20-2004, 12:50 PM
What is it about this don guy, who is showing the toaster, that makes me feel that he's trying to sell me a used car instead of a Toaster?

Not to mention, I feel like I need to shower again!!!!!!!!!

Matt
04-20-2004, 12:56 PM
Who's the chick I can hear? Is it Irene? :)

CB_3D
04-20-2004, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by archiea
What is it about this don guy, who is showing the toaster, that makes me feel that he's trying to sell me a used car instead of a Toaster?

Not to mention, I feel like I need to shower again!!!!!!!!!

LOL, exactly my thoughts. But i think it´s a good approach!

"CHEAP CHEAP!! GOOD GOOD!! BUY IT NOW!!"

LMAO

archiea
04-20-2004, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by CB_3D
LOL, exactly my thoughts. But i think it´s a good approach!

"CHEAP CHEAP!! GOOD GOOD!! BUY IT NOW!!"

LMAO

At DVworld, maybe.. not at NAB.... It just makes it look cheap......

tjacobs
04-20-2004, 06:48 PM
I can see what you mean.

And where is Irene? I have been watching on and off all day and have not seen her.

tokyo drifter
04-20-2004, 09:01 PM
Rich Helvey rocks! I just caught his demo this afternoon and it was great. Actually, everybody seems to be a lot more polished then yesterday from what I've seen.

MrWyatt
04-21-2004, 02:39 AM
Is there going to be a downloadable version of the streams from LW8 as i live in germany and the only fast connection i have is at uni and unfortunatelly at the time of sreaming i normally am allready at home where i have just an analog 56K modem, which sucks and disconnects every 3 minutes for no good reason. And if i stay at uni until late at night my girlfriend will rip my head off and stuff it with my entrails.

:(

Capt Lightwave
04-21-2004, 02:52 AM
Originally posted by tjacobs
And where is Irene? I have been watching on and off all day and have not seen her.


Saw her yesterday. A short glimpse. Good enough for me.

Capt Lightwave
04-21-2004, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by Matt
Who's the chick I can hear? Is it Irene? :)

Nope! Not even close.

ghopper
04-21-2004, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by Matt
Who's the chick I can hear? Is it Irene? :)

I don't think you'll leave a good impression behind, if you call her 'chick' ;)

MrWyatt
04-21-2004, 08:26 AM
was there any streaming today as at the moment i see nada. :mad:

tjacobs
04-21-2004, 10:05 AM
If Newtek is not going to 'officially' announce LW8 at NAB, then when? I know they are waiting on the manuals to be finished first, but would Newtek wait until Siggraph in August to make the announcement? Or is there a show between now and then I am not aware of?

Barred
04-21-2004, 10:42 AM
They mentioned it in yesterdays stream that LW8 was shipping to those who had pre-ordered.

jds580s
04-21-2004, 11:56 AM
The expressions demo William gave with the car puts my vehicle rig (http://onthez.com/temphosting/vehicle_setup.zip) to shame! I hope that is included in the [8] content directory.

Justin

Barred
04-21-2004, 12:11 PM
Yeah I hope it is included aswell, or if it is not how about NT posting the sceen ect so we can learn from it.

He forgot to merge points with his arch demo after the bolean operation hence LW complaining ( I am glad I am not the only one that does that :))

Nice demo Proton.

Signal to Noise
04-21-2004, 12:12 PM
I'm curious...

Have any of these LightWave radio and TV ads being played b/w presentations actually aired anywhere for real? I doubt they'd be on in Canada but what about Texas or somewhere else in CG-prominent USA or elesewhere? Anyone see or hear these spots outside of NAB?

VEBO
04-22-2004, 10:59 AM
It's Live stream down?
I try for last hour to see something, but I see only a black screen and no sound! :(

VEB:rolleyes:

Barred
04-22-2004, 11:04 AM
I am getting "cann't conect to the server"

Jörg
04-22-2004, 11:06 AM
I have the same problem,black screen and no sound!

beverins
04-22-2004, 11:40 AM
same here, "server is busy"

and

"server actively refused the request"

and nothing but a blank screen... :-(

Alas

It won the award for best streaming, and then this happens... I'm thinking a crash occurred?

Barred
04-22-2004, 11:42 AM
Either that or they ran out of bandwidth again.