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ingo
02-11-2003, 12:16 AM
Hope this works. I've done an appartment rendering only lit by a hdr image. Attached are (hopefully) two images, one with a normal exposure (white point at 1,15, black point at 0,85 and one that shows the high dynamic of LW's renderings (white point at 10, black point at 50).

http://www.im-graphics.com/cga/app-11585.jpg


http://www.im-graphics.com/cga/app-1050.jpg

...and many thanks to Herve's wife for the nice picture.

luka
02-11-2003, 12:58 AM
cool renders
I think I like the first one as it seems to have more tonal range.

ingo
02-11-2003, 01:37 AM
Youre right luka, the second picture with the extreme white point at 10 is just there to show how good LW's dynamic range is. If you try that on a 32 Bit rendering you get an ugly picture witha lot of banding and that stuff.
The first test came out very dark, but with image viewer FP i was able to move the wp and bp so i get an acceptable picture.

Absolutlydark
02-11-2003, 01:39 AM
nice rendering, I prefer the first one too.

Cheers

philip
02-11-2003, 03:40 AM
looking good. I like the first one as well. Only there seems to be some light leaking in the corner...

You also might want to bevel that wall's edge at the window, it's pretty sharp for an old brick wall right now.

Skonk
02-11-2003, 05:43 AM
Really nice, i also like the first one. Could do with the antialiasing level turing up a bit though, i can see lots of jaggies in the window area.

James.

vertiis
02-11-2003, 06:33 AM
nice pic but i think u should work on the wall texture. it is repeating...

v.

ingo
02-11-2003, 07:18 AM
>>You also might want to bevel that wall's edge at the window, it's pretty sharp for an old brick wall right now.

Well, there are two bevelllings, one at the edge near the window and one in the edge where both walls meet (you can see the dark line, which in reality has to be light). And aa is enhanced high, and it looks good on my screen, but the jpg looks a bit weird.

Hervé
02-11-2003, 11:37 PM
Hello Ingo, this is really a cool picture, but unlike others (apparently) I prefer the #1050, the lighting is more right in this one and the sweet light that seams to bounce a lot is very good... the #11585 is good but look the wall part on right, it's burning (which could be right but then, it would have a super bounce effect on the plant... and its low table....) I was reading (again) the Arnie paper on Global illumin. and he says "....LightWave®'s gamma tends to be a bit darker than other renderers by default, due to its "linear" gamma curve..", so I am guessing for the red coach....

I love the creation and composition.... Is it the place you live... for a client....? I really love those old factory look loftspaces.... I used to live in a giant loft in L.A. on Spring Street (725)( old post office), well we had an entire floor, today it's smaller, and on one floor, they fit 5 lofts now....

Hey Thanks for Bibi, she's very happy..!

I'll post other some new ones soon !

Thanks again, Hervé

ingo
02-12-2003, 01:09 AM
Hi Herve, thanks for the comments. The picture was just a test for hdr lighting an interior scene with the "snowfield" example from Sachform, works very well with a lot of room for wp and bp adjustment. And i wanted to test how much faster and how real looking a raydiosity rendering is without raytrace reflections or transparency (4-5 times faster than with refl+transp).

Julez4001
02-13-2003, 04:07 PM
It needs a little bump mapping....
on the walls.that would make it perfect.

selts
04-26-2003, 10:09 AM
Hi,
Nice pictures you have.
I tried HRDI too but have a lot of white spot in the picture.
What is the problem?
I used Radiosity with Backdrop only.

Hurben
04-26-2003, 10:59 AM
selts: I'm not sure about others but I think it's rude to hijack other people's threads. Start your own in "General Support".

and ingo.. the link to your images didn't seem to work for me. I'd like to see them.

Hervé
04-27-2003, 01:02 AM
You Have to blur the HDRI in the image editor panel with the full precision blur plugin, maybe 3 or 4 in both H and V

ingo
04-27-2003, 02:38 AM
Sorry, that website doesn't exist anymore, and of course my folder full of testpictures. So here is hopefully one of the above pictures and a new one without hdri.

http://www.im-graphics.de/x-files/ir1.jpg

http://www.im-graphics.de/x-files/ir2.jpg

Hurben
04-27-2003, 02:55 AM
Hey.. I really like ir2.jpg the lighting is so darn nice..

But please lose the teapot.. please..

Also it looks like the road drives straight into the house.. which is kinda weird.

ingo
04-27-2003, 03:17 AM
>>But please lose the teapot.. please..

Well i wanted to use the LW cow first, but it wont fit into the room. ;) But the more i think about it, it would be nice to place a porcelain cow on the table or a larger one next to the couch.

The backround picture is just a picture i found on my HD, its a spherical map normally as you might see.

RAZ
04-27-2003, 04:25 AM
The second image (white walls) is superb. However, the picture on the wall looks too strong and diverts the eye from the quality of the main set. Maybe a different image or some de-saturation. Otherwise a very convincing space. The First image is spoiled only by the brickwork. It doesn't look right yet, it needs to have some depth(bump map) or modelling to it. It's fine for a stand in though to show an alternate look. Great to see this quality of work, thanks for posting.

ingo
04-27-2003, 04:41 AM
Yes youre right with the picture, i've tried several different ones and a completly desaturated image looks best, strange but true. Found one example for that: http://www.im-graphics.de/x-files/ir3.jpg

wizlon
04-29-2003, 01:53 AM
Stunning work ingo, really natural lighting, would you consider posting this scene to William, so he can put it up in the tutorials section?

js33
04-29-2003, 04:11 PM
Hi Ingo,

I like both of them but I like the second one better.
Did you use radiosity or just regular lighting?

Cheers,
JS

ingo
04-30-2003, 02:10 AM
Hi JS, if you read the thread carefully ;) you will realize that i used a hdr image for ambient lighting and an area light as the sun, so i use raydiosity, yes.
The second picture is without a hdr image but still raydiosity, a lot faster to render and good quality anyway.

kite
05-07-2003, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by ingo
Sorry, that website doesn't exist anymore, and of course my folder full of testpictures. So here is hopefully one of the above pictures and a new one without hdri.

http://www.im-graphics.de/x-files/ir1.jpg

http://www.im-graphics.de/x-files/ir2.jpg

Nr2 is very very nice!
I try hard to get that touch in my renders, but I have some practise to do first I guess.

Matt
05-07-2003, 10:23 AM
excellent HRDI, what settings did you use?

mattclary
05-07-2003, 11:10 AM
They're both really awesome! Thanks for bringing it to my attention how much I suck. ;)