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gjjackson
03-30-2004, 01:40 PM
http://careers.awn.com/jobdisplay.php3?job_no=8479

"The successful applicant will be comfortable with, and skilled at, working
with teens and young adults in a public school educational environment.
Background experience and expertise in the computer animation industry with
an emphasis in gaming is a must. Knowledge of mulitiple software products
and industry standards is required. The applicant must be willing to pursue
teacher certification through an alternative format, which provides for
full-time employment while obtaining certification. Creativity, teamwork,
and enthusiasm will be heavily weighted in the selection process, along with
technical skills."

Not to be negative, but the odds seem a little long to find someone in KC
with lots of experience at applied 3D in the computer game industry that now
wants to teach in high school. I don't think there are any sizable computer
game houses in KC at all. Perhaps they hope to attract someone from out of
town.




http://careers.awn.com/jobdisplay.php3?job_no=8479

The PR person at MAXON USA is a friend and she let me know about
this. She is also from the KC area. Good luck to everyone who tries
for it.

jds580s
03-30-2004, 02:09 PM
I would have to agree. I'm in Olathe, but can't think of any KC place that pushes stresses development either. There are a fair number of individuals that are interesting in the gaming side of things, but I'm used to hearing of them finding employment elsewhere. A good post for the right person though!

Justin

gjjackson
03-30-2004, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by jds580s
I would have to agree. I'm in Olathe,Justin

Didn't realize anyone on the forum lived so close. I, too, am in Olathe. Should get together sometime.

jds580s
03-30-2004, 04:11 PM
Sounds like fun! You've got a PM

Justin

WizCraker
03-30-2004, 05:16 PM
And the Cut in pay would discourage any developer. Teachers are the worst paid in this country.

DeltaF86
03-30-2004, 06:29 PM
Hey, I live close to Topeka. I didn't realize there were so many from Kansas.

mattclary
03-30-2004, 06:42 PM
I was born in Leavenworth and have family in KC and a little town called Troy.

DeltaF86
03-30-2004, 06:48 PM
It's cool too that newtek was based in topeka. Why did you leeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaavvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeee!!!1 1!
:D

Kurt_Henning
03-31-2004, 06:47 AM
AS long as this is family...........

I am in Lawrence.

MAX is pretty big here, since there are so many pirated copies floating around the campus.

I get to see test scenes with a kids name in place of the template. Very nice.

There are lots of successful animators from these parts.

1. Jeff Scheetz, the DAVE school founder guy and a former Foundation Imaging giy.

2. Bruce Branit. He is the 405 the Movie guy. He is from these parts. He has done a lot more that 405, but that is what he is famous for.

3. Donny Rausch. He worked on lots of Lord of the Rings. Perhaps some of you have seen it.

4. Dana Rausch. He is still here and does amazing 3d flythroughs of baseball stadiums and stuff like that.

So, talent can emerge from the silicon prairie. The above names are proof positive.

Finding a teacher? Hmmm.

I tell kids that if they want to animate then do the following.

1. Spend between $5 - 7K on a computer, or better yet, get two.

2. Spend a minimum of $1500 on books and tapes.

3. Set a schedule like school learning based on a 4 hour day.
a. read lessons for one hour and use a highlighter
b. watch a lesson without the computer for one hour
c. watch the lessons with the computer for an hour
d. do the tutorial thgat you mastered yesterday again, before moving on to a newteknuique

Of course this does not work for everyone. Only self pacers.

I am biased. I would steer a student to DAVE school who could afford it. For someone with lots of drive and less bucks, try the above methods.

I have met some animators from Full Sail, and IMHO, I like the work that came out of the DAVE school better. Also, the DAVE school graduates were warm and funny people. The Full Sailors were somber, moody and aloof (not anybody I want to work all day with)

And the bottom line. 3d is hard. It takes lots of discipline and most people cannot cut it.

mattclary
03-31-2004, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by Kurt_Henning


1. Spend between $5 - 7K on a computer, or better yet, get two.


$5000 would pay for 2 of my P4 3.0ghz machines with change left over! 5k-7K?! For someone LEARNING 3D? Man, that just seems way too much.

Zarathustra
03-31-2004, 12:32 PM
$5000 would pay for 2 of my P4 3.0ghz machines with change left over! 5k-7K?! For someone LEARNING 3D? Man, that just seems way too much.

Not compared to a tuition at a reputable school.

I agree whole-heartedly with Kurt's self-teaching approach and is what I've handed out as advice almost verbatim.

School is for networking and job placement.

mattclary
03-31-2004, 04:50 PM
Yeah, i meant it's too much for a machine. For school, sure.

kcole
03-31-2004, 05:50 PM
And I thought I was all alone here in Liberty! :)

meshmaster
04-01-2004, 06:39 AM
he's a teacher that was teaching elementary kids in a nearby town. I used to go up to his apartment once a week about a year ago.. he lived in those apartments by that little pond on that road behind the Bank of America... He recently got married and now lives near Olathe. He's a PE coach. I live over here in Columbia, MO.

gjjackson
04-01-2004, 07:44 AM
We should all try to get together sometime, maybe start a LW user group around here.

Zarathustra
04-01-2004, 07:47 AM
I lived in KC as a child. DirectTV get's my $ every football season to watch the Chiefs.

jds580s
04-01-2004, 08:27 AM
I'm guessing most of you know, but there is the Kansas City Animators and Graphic Artists' group (KCAGA) that meets once a month.

It's not strictly lightwave, but the focus is on Animation more than "Graphic Arts"

It is organized by Jim Lammers of Trinity Animation.

They have a webpage here:
http://www.trinity3d.com/kcaga/kcaga.shtml

But you'll find all the current info and conversations at the yahoo group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kcaga/

I think a LW users group would be a great addition!

Justin