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dashwilson
01-27-2004, 06:35 PM
Just read 3D world's new about SAND 2003 event and it's first day is focused on
such topic. I'm interest what it is. Would you mind to tell me something about
this field, market and tech.?

Freak
01-28-2004, 02:43 AM
It's a fast growing area of 3D, there are multiple LW Studio's
around me, that do only MediViz..... (and growing all the time)
It seems Lightwave works very well in this particular field...

Also Elmar Moelzer and gang, have an very interesting upcoming plugin.....for people in this area...... which is looking great!

http://www.mediastudio-graz.com/html/volumedic_eng.htm

ChristopherCBET
01-28-2004, 07:26 AM
Wow. NICE plugin. Looks like a must have for my paticular nitch. My last pro animation was for a 10 Mil lawsuit, but I've also done a bit of animation for training.
Dashwilson, do you have a link to the article you mentioned?

Elmar Moelzer
01-28-2004, 08:14 AM
Hey!
Thanks for the kind comments on Volumedic.
We are trying to finish it ASAP, but right now we are a bit busy with "other things" ;)
I think that everyone who works in the medical viz- area will have a good use for it...
CU
Elmar

Qslugs
01-28-2004, 11:20 AM
My wife went to school for biomedical visualization:

http://www.uic.edu/depts/grad/programs/bvis.shtml

There are 4 or 5 schools on the north americal continent that teach biomedical visualization on the degree level. Of thoes 4 or 5 schools, the class sizes aren't all that large so one can assume that there aren't all that many people that call themselves medical illustrators/animators.

As for 3d being taught in the schools, I believe it's a fairly new trend. From my estimate only the past couple years have schools added (a) 3d class(s) to their curriculum.

Anyway, having a wife with the degree is a big help in getting the occasional 3d medical freelance job thrown your way :)

Did you have any questions in particular? Or were you just looking for general info?

Qslugs
01-28-2004, 11:22 AM
Elmar, any idea on what the cost of that plugin will be when it's complete?

Elmar Moelzer
01-28-2004, 03:29 PM
Sorry, I cant comment on pricing yet, nor on how it will be made available to the public as there are still some ongoing negotiations and there is a very broad range possibilities...
CU
Elmar

PeterJ
01-28-2004, 04:44 PM
Hey Elmar!

Isn't your icon from your plug?

Elmar Moelzer
01-28-2004, 04:54 PM
Hey Peter!
Yes, it is ;)
Just one of my endless tests.
I was able to get this one done within 10 minutes including rendering and testrenders etc...
I really liked the way that one turned out though, it looks almost as if the skull was grinning and twinking.
CU
Elmar

PeterJ
01-28-2004, 05:08 PM
As I've told you before...killer plug!
Say hi to David for me!

Elmar Moelzer
01-28-2004, 05:40 PM
Hey Peter!
Thanks, will do!
CU
Elmar

dashwilson
01-28-2004, 06:25 PM
Hi, ChristopherCBET,

The article in 3D World just mention about 1st of event SAND2003 about Medical imaging. And, here is the link for more details,
http://www.sand2003.org.uk/presentations.htm

Hi, Qslugs,
Thanks for yr info, I'm looking for general info and how to get into such field. Since it's hard to surive for a 3D artist/designer in my country, I'm looking for a more stable job which is related to 3D.
Do you know what kind of project for 3D artist involve? Just training medical student, or mainly focus on Interventional Radiology?

ChristopherCBET
01-29-2004, 09:20 AM
Thanks for the link, dashwilson



I'm looking for general info and how to get into such field.

Well I got my break through the Medical Photography Department of the hospital where I worked as a medical equipment repair tech. Check out the hospitals in your area and see what sort of photography, medical illustration, or continuing education department they have. Then see if there are any projects you could help them with.

I have also done work for Videographers who do legal deposition and "day in the life" style video projects that show the level of client debilitation. I'm sure my fellow Americans remember a certain fast food chain that had a big e. coli outbreak a few years back. I did an animation showing the effects of the e.coli toxins on capillary walls and the resultant massive blood clotting.



Elmar Moelzer:
Wow! That plugin is super! I'm not doing any med viz right now(I suck at sales), but if I do any more work that plugin is a must
have.

Qslugs
01-29-2004, 10:10 AM
As far as projects go, I am not quite sure what you are asking. Are you asking wht kind of work one might do if they were a professional medical illustrator/animator?

If so here are two links of studios/people that do 3d medical content:

http://www.hurdstudios.com/

http://www.medartist.com/keith.html

Also, heres a link to a more traditional illustrator

http://www.bodyrender.com

btw, that hand on his intro page holdign the pen was entirely drawn and rendered in photoshop.

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As far as working in the field of medical illustration/animation in the US goes, all of the people I know doing this type of work have a masters degree in medical visualization or some equivilant degree. On top of that, in order to get work, there is a book that all the artists advertise in which potential clients know to look for potential artists in for their projects.



Originally posted by dashwilson


Hi, Qslugs,
Thanks for yr info, I'm looking for general info and how to get into such field. Since it's hard to surive for a 3D artist/designer in my country, I'm looking for a more stable job which is related to 3D.
Do you know what kind of project for 3D artist involve? Just training medical student, or mainly focus on Interventional Radiology?

meshmaster
01-29-2004, 02:13 PM
there was something along this line called the Visual Human Project... here's a google for it... http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=visual+human very interesting stuff.

Elmar Moelzer
01-29-2004, 03:55 PM
Hey Meshmaster!
Not sure what you want to compare to the Visible Human Project.
If you meant to compare out plugin to it, you are way off.
The Visible Human project would be a file that can be loaded into our plugin (a dataset), but our plugin allows to load any CT/MRI/SPECT/PET/3DUS- dataset, of any living person...
No need to cut the proband into thin slices ;-)
CU
Elmar