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VonBon
04-08-2019, 10:08 PM
Well I didn't know 2019 had Tools for Game Dev...… and I just missed a sale 8~

Will there be a 30 day trial offered for 2019?
If it is I don't see it in my account Downloads.

and If not, why not? I tell ya what :deal:
How bout another Sale so I can scoop it up :beerchug:

CaptainMarlowe
04-08-2019, 10:38 PM
There is a trial for LW2019, but you have to request a specific serial number here :
https://www.lightwave3d.com/try_lightwave/

erikals
04-09-2019, 03:28 AM
the Trial is alright, somewhat.

but the demo mode in Modeler is useless with poly-limitation, luckily you can model in 2015 and import it into 2019.

(NewTek, take note. Houdini Apprentice and Blender is way ahead of you) Fix the demo-mode! Thanks.


How bout another Sale
prices might go down with Vizrt running the show. Let's see.  https://i.imgur.com/B8QSFA7.gif

gar26lw
04-09-2019, 03:39 AM
maybe...


https://youtu.be/cKUvKE3bQlY

erikals
04-09-2019, 03:59 AM
today's first laugh!  https://i.imgur.com/bcwLfNX.gif https://i.imgur.com/tJGL61i.png

VonBon
04-09-2019, 08:37 AM
Thanks for the link

RudySchneider
04-09-2019, 10:45 AM
maybe...


https://youtu.be/cKUvKE3bQlY


That gave me a laugh, too.

Ahhh... If only it were so...

Sensei
04-09-2019, 10:49 AM
but the demo mode in Modeler is useless with poly-limitation, luckily you can model in 2015 and import it into 2019.

But as soon as you will apply LW 2019 surfacing, LWO will stop being openable and editable in LW 2015.

erikals
04-09-2019, 01:17 PM
yup.

NewTek needs to boost both the trial mode and the demo mode. a win-win situation.

also give LightWave to schools for free. (at least for a few years)

Ma3rk
04-09-2019, 01:50 PM
But as soon as you will apply LW 2019 surfacing, LWO will stop being openable and editable in LW 2015.

Mmmm. Not 100% correct. Oliver has some tools for that but done't know what he ended calling it.


https://vimeo.com/search?q=OD_LoadSave%20

raymondtrace
04-09-2019, 03:32 PM
This topic is mixing things up a bit.


the Trial is alright, somewhat.

but the demo mode in Modeler is useless with poly-limitation, luckily you can model in 2015 and import it into 2019.

The trial is a fully functional version for 30 days. There should be no restrictions. After the 30 day trial period, the software turns to unlicensed or "discovery mode", which includes the poly-limitation with Modeler and no ability to save scenes from Layout. Discovery mode lasts indefinitely, so you can take your time to learn LW before purchasing.


But as soon as you will apply LW 2019 surfacing, LWO will stop being openable and editable in LW 2015.


Mmmm. Not 100% correct. Oliver has some tools for that but done't know what he ended calling it.

In the context of a 2019 trial (or discovery mode), this shouldn't be a concern. Erikals is simply pointing out how you can bring more complex geometry from a previously licensed Modeler to load into "discovery mode" of Layout 2019. There's no need to open and edit again in LW 2015 if one is just testing 2019. And if you're using the fully-functional 30-day 2019 trial, there's no need to import complex LWO from an older version. Modeler 2019 should work fine, without functional limitation.

I would suggest that the biggest fault of LightWave Discovery Mode is that NewTek does not make it discoverable in its marketing. Who knows about it, except for us licensed users? NewTek hasn't marketed to new users for over a decade. Why should they start now? :)

erikals
04-09-2019, 03:37 PM
The trial is a fully functional version for 30 days. There should be no restrictions. After the 30 day trial period, the software turns to unlicensed or "discovery mode", which includes the poly-limitation with Modeler and no ability to save scenes from Layout. Discovery mode lasts indefinitely, so you can take your time to learn LW before purchasing.

of course, that wasn't the point though. the point was,

> demo mode in Modeler is useless with its heavy poly-limitation.
> Houdini Apprentice and Blender is way ahead in this regard.


NewTek hasn't marketed to new users for over a decade. Why should they start now?
Vizrt gives the situation hope. https://i.imgur.com/O97xXy6.gif

raymondtrace
04-09-2019, 03:50 PM
Right, I was just clarifying because VonBon was only asking about a 30-day trial. Discovery mode, while a general issue for LW adoption, is probably not a concern.

Modeler's discovery mode limitation is 400 points per layer. However, there is no restriction on the number of layers. So if you're creative, you can still build very complex geometry in the crippled edition.

gar26lw
04-10-2019, 02:09 AM
400 points? how anyone gonna test anything with that?

prometheus
04-10-2019, 04:19 AM
400 points? how anyone gonna test anything with that?

for 30 days you should be able to use it full out, before it goes in to discovery mode, after that.. the limitation setīs in, and if you have older lightwave versions such as 2015 you can use that, there isnīt much new in modeler except for live array and some other small stuff.

So if you have 2015, you can just work with that and import and modify, but not save.

raymondtrace
04-10-2019, 08:28 AM
400 points? how anyone gonna test anything with that?

They don't test. They discover for as long as they want. That's what discovery mode is. That's not what a trial is.

You're confusing a trial mode and discovery mode. VonBon was only asking about a trial, which is fully functional for 30 days.

Now somebody is going to ask:


30 days? how anyone gonna test anything with that?

:)

gar26lw
04-10-2019, 09:17 AM
in all cases i’ve installed demos i’ve never had the chance to get to trial/test/demo/experiment/whatever them to fully or even partially discover anything meaningful in 30 days due to other commitments.

i think demo would be better off being extended for longer. the only thing you’re gonna discover after that is blender as there is no restriction.

my point being ;) the restriction is so tight that it’s next to useless so who is going to open it?

i guess having a free educational version would sort things, same as adsk. i figure they thought what the hell, blenders free anyway and we want the next gen of users to be familiar with adsk products.

there was a survey on here and i think most lw users were 35-45+ going on 60ish.
i don’t see what’s to be gained.

prometheus
04-10-2019, 09:34 AM
I agree..30 days is too little time do a decent test of a software, I have forwarded this to the modo team as well, I just havenīt been able to evaluate it enough, with lightwave I at least know it much more and can disregard a lot of stuff for testing, but this time I upgraded..without having had the chance to try it enough.

Enough isnīt a whole year, it is by all means Double the time..two months, anyone trying to make a living for two months and doing so with a two month trial version..donīt think so.
Everyone would benefit from a 60 day trial in my opinion, unless the authors are well aware of that their software isnīt up to good standards and want to sell a pig in the sack.

If I would have had the time to try Modo for 60 days, I may have already purchased it, but I gave up on evaluating it..cause I knew it will take more time to try it out that Lightwave that I know so much more about, Itīs their loss not providing a longer trial period, but this may be equally valid for newbies that has never tried Lightwave as well...Except that it goes in to discovery mode which allows for exploring it more, not sure Modo has that kind of trial and end of trial mode?