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Tony3d
01-07-2018, 12:50 PM
Hi All, I was just wondering how Stable Lightwave 2018 is Running under High Sierra. Are the modeler tools worth it? Will it run 2015 scene file alright? Is it subscription based? That would be a deal breaker for me! Thanks.

roboman
01-07-2018, 06:19 PM
Seems stable on the PC. Not much different in modeler, other then it now makes 2018 (lwo3) models and seems a bit faster. Other then textures and lighting, 2015 scenes seem to load alright. No subscription options that I saw, just pay for it and download it.

Tony3d
01-07-2018, 09:31 PM
Wish they would beef up the modeling tools. Doesn’t sound like it’s worth the upgrade for me then.

avkills
01-08-2018, 10:59 AM
I am noticing stuff does not work correctly on the Mac side, will not for sure later tonight. Perhaps it could be because I am on a Hackintosh; again will know more later.

Markc
01-08-2018, 11:28 AM
If you open a 2015 scene file, it will inform you that it will be converted, and not run in older versions (so create a backup).
Loading older models is no problem, the surfacing will be different due to the new system though.
I loaded a 2015 scene to try, and it crashed when I tried to render (probably plugins in there it didn't like, like DP stuff, Ubercam etc.)
Creating a new scene from scratch.....no problems.

avkills
01-08-2018, 08:39 PM
I was going through a tutorial movie that Antti made, did not work the same on my Mac as Windows.

Tony3d
01-08-2018, 11:24 PM
THanks guys. I may just stay with 2015.

jeric_synergy
01-09-2018, 12:30 AM
Well, as I keep forgetting, you can give it a shot for thirty days. For free. Best do that before 2/27 so you can decide and have the low upgrade price (expires 3/31).

Ztreem
01-09-2018, 12:53 AM
Well, as I keep forgetting, you can give it a shot for thirty days. For free. Best do that before 2/27 so you can decide and have the low upgrade price (expires 3/31).

Is that true? I upgraded to 2015 just to be current so I could upgrade to 2018 for $295 as long as I upgrade before next version. I think I have to learn Blender even faster. :D

djwaterman
01-09-2018, 03:20 AM
Not true, you can upgrade for $295 anytime you want if you're current.

Ztreem
01-09-2018, 04:25 AM
Not true, you can upgrade for $295 anytime you want if you're current.

Ok, perfect! Thanks.

jeric_synergy
01-09-2018, 06:39 PM
It's/it was very confusing, but I think if you're "Charter", you can always u/g for $295 if current. I believe LWG has made the confused situation clearer though, on the website.

For the lowdown, go there. But let's not have another megathread on it.

daforum
01-10-2018, 11:00 AM
Not true, you can upgrade for $295 anytime you want if you're current.

How far back does 'current' go?

djwaterman
01-10-2018, 02:46 PM
I wrote to Newtek and asked the question, this is the official line.

"What I know is that the upgrade is $295 for EVERYONE through March 31st. That will change on April 1, but I don't know for sure what the pricing structure will be after that."

So, I stand corrected, because they've changed their position from the one Rob Powers put forward. It depends on the unknown pricing structure after March 31st, seems like they haven't decided on that yet.

Sensei
01-10-2018, 03:37 PM
The all newly made nodes will work on LW 2018 exclusively.. So the quicker you get in, and learn it, the better.. Later you will be much off.. and won't be even able to load plugins to LW..

Ztreem
01-10-2018, 03:54 PM
I wrote to Newtek and asked the question, this is the official line.

"What I know is that the upgrade is $295 for EVERYONE through March 31st. That will change on April 1, but I don't know for sure what the pricing structure will be after that."

So, I stand corrected, because they've changed their position from the one Rob Powers put forward. It depends on the unknown pricing structure after March 31st, seems like they haven't decided on that yet.

If they set a higher price than $295 for all using the current version after March 31st, I will not upgrade. I bought 2015 just because they said that if you have the current version upgrades will be $295 and at that time there was a limited offer to upgrade to 2015 for $295, so I jumped on. At that time I was quite excited about 2018 but now over two years later it doesnít feel that cool anymore. I just have to evaluate Blender more before I can make a decision and Iím afraid it will take at least until summer. Right now it feels like cycles offers the same as lw2018 render wise.

djwaterman
01-11-2018, 02:47 AM
I admit I feel like-wise, as I also bought into 2015 based on that offer, and I need more than 30 days to evaluate the current release. I was planning to upgrade later down the track, purely out of a sort of nostalgia good feeling, but if I'm forced to buy in within this current time limit, I'm less interested, it's going back on the initial offer as far as I can tell, and the trial isn't blowing me away much. I was frankly disappointing with the response I got from Newtek, sounded like they didn't even know for sure how to answer me.

jeric_synergy
01-11-2018, 06:37 PM
The only thing that confuses me, and I'll prolly upgrade by 3/31 mostly for nostalgia (and it's my birthday), is the status of the CHARTER users, which I understood was "$295, as long as you stay current".

(Although I could almost buy 2 3d printers for the LW upgrade price, even though it's a good bargain....)