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jperk
07-12-2017, 07:51 AM
What are you using? What is recommended for a portfolio website showcasing 3D work and traditional ?

Schwyhart
07-12-2017, 08:10 AM
Both are easy. I prefer Muse though.
However, I've been using Weebly lately. The domains I manage are with www.domain.com and I subscribe to Weebly through that.

jperk
07-12-2017, 08:19 AM
My web portfolio class uses Adobe Muse. It seems easy. Drag and drop, etc. However, I don't feel like doing the Adobe subscriptions to maintain it. Also, I already have a free website started up w/ WordPress, but it needs a lot of work. Plus, it's only $2.99 a month to keep a domain name , which is pretty affordable. The downside with Wordpress is it's more code based whereas Muse is more drag and drop.

prometheus
07-12-2017, 11:05 AM
My web portfolio class uses Adobe Muse. It seems easy. Drag and drop, etc. However, I don't feel like doing the Adobe subscriptions to maintain it. Also, I already have a free website started up w/ WordPress, but it needs a lot of work. Plus, it's only $2.99 a month to keep a domain name , which is pretty affordable. The downside with Wordpress is it's more code based whereas Muse is more drag and drop.

I have started a thread some time ago on the general discussion pages regarding wordpress VS wix, and conclusion where that while wix is so easy to use, drag and drop and design your page with the sort of page builder inbulit tool is great, it seems that
the code within wix is not well structured and thus it will not be optimal for a web page that relies a lot on being search optimated, if it however is only for directing someone specific to your portfolio, it may actually work.

otherwise there is free page builder plugins as well for wordpress , so if you already pay for a webhotel, that should be doable and simply add a page builder add on.

tyrot
07-12-2017, 03:10 PM
wordpress + divi ... muse i used for a long time .. .. moved away from it .. things are so easy ... with divi wordpress and looks awesome ...

Triodin
07-12-2017, 03:21 PM
I'm seeing more and more social media sites like instagram being used for portfolios due to the SEO traction you'll get with properly tagged / titled images. Just another thing to consider. If all you're doing it putting up images, might be worth looking into.

jperk
07-12-2017, 04:57 PM
otherwise there is free page builder plugins as well for wordpress , so if you already pay for a webhotel, that should be doable and simply add a page builder add on.

Where can I find this? I like Wordpress. Adobe Muse is easy to use, but it sometimes glitches during class even when professor is giving interactive lecture.



wordpress + divi ... muse i used for a long time .. .. moved away from it .. things are so easy ... with divi wordpress and looks awesome ...

is Divi free?



I'm seeing more and more social media sites like instagram being used for portfolios due to the SEO traction you'll get with properly tagged / titled images. Just another thing to consider. If all you're doing it putting up images, might be worth looking into.

I've just opened and uploaded class assignments to a tumblr as requested by my photography professor. Closed my insta but opened it up as well. Just haven't touched it since.

Rayek
07-12-2017, 08:02 PM
Avoid Muse, if you can help it. I understand why schools and colleges would use it (no need to learn web coding), but the code it produces is ABSOLUTELY ABYSMAL. It is also far too easy to build very heavy websites with it. And you will be dependent on an Adobe CC subscription as well. In my view Muse is a good website prototyping tool, but little more.

Wordpress is a much better choice because you maintain in control, but you'd have to be careful picking a theme. Some themes are better than others.

Other reasons why WP is the preferred choice: vast range of free and commercial plugins; easy to expand with new functionality - it grows with your needs; WP natively supports Sketchfab, so you will be able to embed your 3d models directly in the portfolio.

A good visual page builder is Elementor (which also happens to be free):
https://elementor.com/

Triodin
07-13-2017, 08:04 AM
Where can I find this? I like Wordpress. Adobe Muse is easy to use, but it sometimes glitches during class even when professor is giving interactive lecture.

is Divi free?

I've just opened and uploaded class assignments to a tumblr as requested by my photography professor. Closed my insta but opened it up as well. Just haven't touched it since.


Hey Perk - while not Divi, I use Avada almost all the time for web projects now: https://themeforest.net/item/avada-responsive-multipurpose-theme/2833226 $60 and you get the theme + page builder, very good deal imo.

If you're looking for code help or anything feel free to PM me and we can exchange emails of if you're on discord. Highly recommend Godaddy for hosting, brain dead simple and probably the best customer support I've had after you've navigated past all the upsells. Domain + Host + Divi theme your initial startup costs will be $150 for the first year and then probably 50 - 60 bucks a year for domain and host afterwards.

If you go with just a domain like jperkrocks.com you can point it to your tumblr or whatever so you'll still get a unique website, your costs go down to just the domain with is maybe $15 a year.

Exciting times man!!

sadkkf
07-13-2017, 09:35 AM
Just a quick note on CMS's in general...all of them can get you up and running pretty quickly. They're easy enough to use and allow you to build and maintain content and menus without knowing how to code, but the second you need something it can't do you'll need to rely on a plugin.

Plugins are great and are usually free (at leaset for Wordpress), but eventually you'll need to upgrade Wordpress and then you'll have to wonder if upgrading the CMS will break compatibility with a plugin.

I deal with this constantly and always suggest avoiding the use of a CMS if you can help it. They are also favorite targets of hackers and bots.

Use a social media site if you can or deviant art or find someone *reliable* to build one for you cheap.

raymondtrace
07-13-2017, 10:55 AM
Here's one more vote to avoid programs/services like Muse/Wix unless you truly know what your doing and can craft a semantic web site. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web ). These tools make beautiful web sites but they most often lack the critical ability for people to discover your work through search engines. There is no meaning behind their HTML.

Here's also another vote to consider a social media platform to showcase your work. There's a good reason why social sites top the charts. ( http://www.alexa.com/topsites ) If you're sharing something you feel is valuable, don't you want others to easily share it too?

I'm suspect of a "photography professor" offering meaningful training in regard to web publishing. I'm no stranger to a "web portfolio class". I used to teach that at art schools in the days of Adobe PageMill and then GoLive, when there weren't any real alternatives to publishing your work. Unless you're training to be a full web designer or developer, scratching the thin veneered surface of web design in a "web portfolio class" today is a complete waste of time. Just post on social media and focus on creating great art.

Example of an artist doing it right:
https://www.facebook.com/loish.fans/
http://loish.deviantart.com/
http://blog.loish.net/

Rayek
07-13-2017, 11:22 AM
Wholeheartedly agree with Ray - those 'web portfolio classes' are generally pure filler, and the important stuff can be explained in one or two sessions. Set up a simple WP site that showcases your work (including Sketchfab for realtime game work), and use social media and the various art showcase sites such as deviantart.

gerry_g
07-13-2017, 11:37 AM
Here's also another vote to consider a social media platform to showcase your work..................

So if I get myself on Pornhub I'm gonna reach a bigger audience than if I go for Tumblr, that's good to know, many thanks, ok so Instagram ranks higher but where's the fun

raymondtrace
07-13-2017, 12:27 PM
So if I get myself on Pornhub I'm gonna reach a bigger audience than if I go for Tumblr, that's good to know, many thanks, ok so Instagram ranks higher but where's the fun

Looking at pornhub's relatively exceptional traffic from search (21.40%), you may be on to something. I'm heading over to my company's VP of Sales to pitch a pornhub promotional idea.

prometheus
07-13-2017, 04:55 PM
Here's one more vote to avoid programs/services like Muse/Wix unless you truly know what your doing and can craft a semantic web site. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web ). These tools make beautiful web sites but they most often lack the critical ability for people to discover your work through search engines. There is no meaning behind their HTML.



Thatīs why I said, If you do not find search engine optimization crucial, and only need to showcase the portfolio with the help of your own directions, thereīs absolutly no real need to choose wordpress, wix is completely free and will do just fine, I find the UI drag and drop and change interface and buttons, aligning and rescaling them etc very nice to work with, unlike updating a "standard" wordpress blog or site...that said..I exclude the fact that I havenīt tried any of the wordpress page builders.

prometheus
07-13-2017, 04:58 PM
Looking at pornhub's relatively exceptional traffic from search (21.40%), you may be on to something. I'm heading over to my company's VP of Sales to pitch a pornhub promotional idea.

Thatīs not really indicating much other than itīs me lurking around so much :)

LightwaveHUb has itīs contender.

graviel
07-14-2017, 01:24 AM
Definitively wordpress.. In my opinion whatever learning or creative activity you engage with should have a decent curve for personal development, if you start learning wordpress you will eventually learn CSS as well, eventually HTML, and in the future you will have the chance to try learn PHP and MYSQL. Step by step you have a profession ahead. Muse is a toy.

jperk
07-18-2017, 11:50 AM
Definitively wordpress.. In my opinion whatever learning or creative activity you engage with should have a decent curve for personal development, if you start learning wordpress you will eventually learn CSS as well, eventually HTML, and in the future you will have the chance to try learn PHP and MYSQL. Step by step you have a profession ahead. Muse is a toy.

Hello, so alternative choices to Muse is; Site Origins (free), Elementor (free), or Divi (paid). Also, there is WordPress to Muse (https://musetowordpress.com/), which is free as well. However, I'm not sure how accurate it will transfer my Muse page.

Here is a mock up template I made in Photoshop. I want something simple. I'd like a rollover effect when the user highlights the image. For example, the image dubbed w/ "projects" users the same color scheme as the image below it when the mouse pointer isn't hovering over it. Also, I'd like a drop down menu to the side of the image. For example, highlight projects and a drop down sub menu appears- Photography, Animation, Paintings, etc. This is possible in Muse, but I am wondering if the Wordpress alternatives can do the same. Here is what I am going for:

Triodin
07-18-2017, 12:40 PM
That's gonna be an image map with clickzones if you go that direction. Gonna be more difficult to get SEO out of a site that doesn't use words you can highlight and copy and paste. You'll be relying totally on alt image tags and filenames for keywords and whatnot.

Good news is that, as a creative, you can have a site like this, but it would never fly for a more corporate client - so depends who you're making the site for.

Reminds me of the myspace days though where you could do whatever you wanted! :D

Rayek
07-18-2017, 12:52 PM
Couple of comments:

- Always ask yourself the following question with any design: what is it I want the reader/visitor/user to see first? What is the most important element? What is the second most important element? And the third one? A good visual hierarchy is crucial to communicate you intent.
In your design the big white eyes command too much attention, in my opinion. In this design all elements seem to attract a lot of attention, and the visual hierarchy is lost for the most part.

- problems with alignment and spacing. All four elements form one large shape. Group things more, and use more negative space.

- Hovering effects do NOT work on mobile devices. Aim at the best mobile experience. This is not it - and how are you going to make this responsive? Think mobile first, and work your way up to tablets (ipad) and desktop.

- Avoid drop down menus if you can. Try not to intentionally hide your navigation, in particular for a simple site like this one. And hamburger icons do more harm than good, btw. Don't make the visitor work too hard to view your portfolio.

- the point of your portfolio is for visitors to view your work first, then when they get interested look for your contact information and perhaps look at your resume online. Provide your resume in both PDF and html format (that adjusts responsively again).

- avoid a "starting page": this looks like one. Why force any potential employer to click the "Projects" link when the first (home) page could be used far more efficiently to display all your best work right from the bat?

- in this design it is unclear what is clickable, and what not.

- Lastly, let your work speak for itself. No need for elaborate non-standard page designs like this one that distract from that. Unless you can pull off a witty design well, stay away from concepts like this.

I feel you have been focusing too much on "My Homepage Must Be Cool Looking", and forgot about the actual reason why you are building it: showcasing your portfolio work - content. Content design is far more important than visual design. As a matter of fact, your content design IS your visual design. Ask yourself how you will present your portfolio work, rather than focus on the visual frame surrounding it. Content Design - Functional Design - Visual Design. Not the other way around.

As for the technical execution: as I mentioned above, this looks like a starting page, which is superfluous. Having said this, creating a design like this would be very, very awkward to do without custom coding in a Wordpress theme - unless it is adjusted a bit. I imagine the eyes and hand could be turned into a simple header graphic or header background image. Then display a list of your best work below. You'd get a similar design, but more organized and restrained.

Anyway, I'd scratch this starting page, and really start considering how to display my portfolio work on the home page in the most clear and easy-to-use manner.

raymondtrace
07-18-2017, 02:13 PM
Was the intent of this portfolio ever defined? Your design concept may be perfectly fine if you just want to squirrel away your work to look at in 10 years. However, you may want something different if you intend to gain employment from this endeavor.

Check out Amanda Cole's and Jake Lee Haugen's portfolios ( https://speckyboy.com/creative-portfolios-of-50-designers/ ). They both made a wise choice to describe who they are in text, including a geographic reference to the markets they serve (Melbourne, AU & St. Paul, MN USA). But if you click on their website previews taken just 6 months ago for this blog, you're led to their current sites that go even farther in the right direction of self marketing.

Amanda's page now redirects to a full business page that explains all services offered in text that is easily indexed by search engines. From there, the viewer can click to see "projects".

Jake's page describes who he is and now links to his profiles on 3 publishing platforms or social networks. Those networks allow him to be seen more than with a personal website.

EDIT: What I mean to suggest is that you first define a personal marketing strategy before attempting to layout a web page. This is like choosing window curtain fabric before a blueprint has been created for a house.

vonpietro
07-18-2017, 05:55 PM
why not artstation - thats a good portoflio site
https://www.artstation.com/artist/peterpro

all lightwave


alos wix.com has great free templates for websites including portfolios

prometheus
07-19-2017, 02:32 AM
why not artstation - thats a good portoflio site
https://www.artstation.com/artist/peterpro

all lightwave


alos wix.com has great free templates for websites including portfolios

Funny i just menitoned it in another thread, and seconds after I am checking this thread where you mentioned it :)

vonpietro
07-19-2017, 04:10 PM
coincidences are funny like that.... or is it coincidence !!!! =)

prometheus
07-20-2017, 01:59 AM
coincidences are funny like that.... or is it coincidence !!!! =)

itīs about time, space, and factors..itīs not really peculiar, if you think more closely about it..itīs just our own perception magnifying something to be more than it actually is.
As in time you wrote your stuff close to my writing in time, as for space these things were located near eachother, in this forum etc, the odds and factors for setting the term coincedence to a lot of similarities are quite hight.
It makes it feel more interesting and funny when we magnify happenings like that, to further enhance we may have someting in common and that things are so intertwined in so many areas.