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danielkaiser
05-24-2017, 07:14 PM
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/the-a-eon-amiga-x5000-reviewed-the-beloved-amiga-meets-2017/

jperk
05-24-2017, 08:37 PM
Thats pretty cool...but what was the last version of LW released for amiga? Seems pointless since all amiga software is ancient.

roboman
05-24-2017, 09:13 PM
I keep looking at the endless string of 'new' Amigas that keep coming out. Amiga was magic, in that it was some how 10 or 15 years ahead of every one else and it did things people weren't even realistically hoping for at the time. I also loved the programming and all the custom hardware that took the load off the software. None of the new Amigas seem to be any better then a middle of the road PC and at a much much higher price. Can't talk my self into shelling out the bucks for any of the ones I've seen so far.... Amiga was an extremely great toy that had it's day

jeric_synergy
05-25-2017, 12:51 AM
It's like a vintage car.... but without the fun of driving.

I luvved my Amiga's, but this is just weird.

Kaptive
05-25-2017, 01:25 AM
Well, on the upside, you probably won't get too many viruses.

MichaelT
05-25-2017, 04:02 AM
Actually their Xena core is very interesting. Programmable hardware isn't something we see that often, or at least as open. A chip like that in a PC could help spawn a whole range of interesting applications. Like having a version of TFD running on hardware, or at least partially. which would boost the speed significantly. Things like that. That and, the fact that the 68nnn family assembler code is so much nicer to work with.

prometheus
05-25-2017, 07:26 AM
And this new Amiga may run lightwave, blender, houdini afer effects, photoshop, krita etc with ease? from right now or is it speculative from a distant future point of view?
As much as I love the old amiga when looking back, I am having a hard time seeing a future for it now..I think the train is long past gone and it will probably..probably be just a waste of money investing in it.. unless you simply want it for retror programs or feel of it all.

At least I believe that to be the case for the nearest future, then again..if they start to get a decent operating system that is more graphicly pleasing than the horrible screenshots we see in the article, and also get modern software to work with it as soon as possible, then it might be something if it is as good as it is in terms of hardware etc.

erikals
05-25-2017, 09:35 PM
considered the Armiga project, maybe later... ?
200€


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VOY2yqNKBI

MichaelT
05-26-2017, 01:26 AM
The limiting factor for me (regarding Armiga, and similar items) is that it only have HDMI. My desktop monitor doesn't have that.. only display port.

prometheus
05-26-2017, 07:10 AM
The limiting factor for me (regarding Armiga, and similar items) is that it only have HDMI. My desktop monitor doesn't have that.. only display port.

Canīt you bypass that with some sort of hdmi to svga adapter?

ActionBob
05-26-2017, 08:15 AM
Sorry double.
-Adrian

ActionBob
05-26-2017, 08:26 AM
To answer a question above, the last version of LW to run on the Amiga was 5.0. I have it and the dongle too. I also have my A1200 still - which is in need of repair, but I haven't booted it in years.

Honestly, this is an interesting machine. If I had the disposable cash, I would buy one. Perhaps dabble in hardware programming with all that is included in this kit. It seems to definitely be a hobby developers cup of tea.

I also own several versions of Amiga Forever. I boot it up now and then and am tickled at running the old desktop. However, I tend to get confused (seems more easily these days due to getting older) when revisiting and working within Workbench and all. I have simply gotten too used to Windows.

But yeah.. I think it would be neat to tinker with if I had money to toss....

-Adrian

P.S. Just put my name on the notiification list for the ARMIGA full edition (as they are currently out of stock). That custom built in Floppy is nice. I have a lot of old disks I would like to convert to ADS files.

ActionBob
05-26-2017, 08:41 AM
Got my start in LW at version 3.5 - the first version to be de-coupled from the Amiga Video Toaster.

I was in love at first sight with LW back then. And I scrounged up the $550.00 bucks it cost for LW 3.5 at a local Amiga Store (miss the days when I could go into one of those).

Upgraded each version, only missing I think one version when it went to windows only. Finally made the jump to Windows (one of the reasons I chose Windows over Mac back then was the LW support and lots of other software) and slowly, kicking and thrashing let go. Truth be told, I would probably still have my old A1200 hooked up for kicks if it were still running - wouldn't take too much to get it working again, I just haven't had the time (or deskspace). Also, of note, Lightwave killed my A1200 as it crashed during some heavy rendering (renders would take days back then). The drive died overnight while LW was doing some heavy rendering of some space scene I made (surprised?). The drive head wore a groove into the surface and it was dead, dead , dead... I would have bought a replacement drive but my PCMCIA port had some damaged pins, so I couldn't use my CD - ROM drive at the time and my latest version of LW (v. 5.0) was on CD. So that and some other of the latest software was only on cd-rom - no point in installing and not being able to use my most important software.

So, 2-3 years passed where I didn't have a computer. Also, my job prospects at the time, due to location were not great and money wasn't coming it. So, I waited, saved up my pennies and bought a little HP desktop that caught my eye (It had Command and Conquer: Tiberian Sun playing on it). I bought that and have been with PC since - knowing I would eventually contact Newtek and upgrade to the latest version of LW for PC.

Still miss my Amiga. Maybe, I will get it repaired. But honestly, it is a lot less hassle to go with these little pocket emulators these days. So, I will probably be getting an ARMIGA as soon as I am notified. I like the idea of backing up all those floppies to ADS files.

-Adrian

MichaelT
05-26-2017, 10:15 AM
Canīt you bypass that with some sort of hdmi to svga adapter?

No, as far as I am aware there is no such adapter.. (HDMI -> DP) I've looked. I'm not so into the technical details about why either... I did read about an explanation why. But in the end I think it is very strange that someone haven't made one. Even if it would require something bigger.
Then again there might already be one out... but like I said.. I am not aware of one at least :)

Sensei
05-26-2017, 10:26 AM
No, as far as I am aware there is no such adapter.. (HDMI -> DP) I've looked.

Something like this?
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-HDMI-DisplayPort-Converter-Adapter/dp/B0144NS4Z6

erikals
05-26-2017, 10:52 AM
yeah, from reviews it seems a bit of a gamble, sometimes works, sometimes does not.

ActionBob
05-26-2017, 11:20 AM
I like how the video review of the ARMIGA lists a Con as "Amiga games are hard." :-)

Save states? Only wimps need those. :-)

-Adrian

ActionBob
05-26-2017, 11:23 AM
I wonder if Newtek has plans for a new Amiga version of Lightwave. I miss that oscillating wire-frame view mode in modeler that would help you better see the depth of a 3d object in wireframe mode. :-)

How many of you remember that?

Hhhmm.. just might be a new Amiga in my future after all....


-Adrian

MichaelT
05-26-2017, 02:39 PM
Something like this?
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-HDMI-DisplayPort-Converter-Adapter/dp/B0144NS4Z6

Bookmarked ;) Thanks

erikals
05-26-2017, 03:15 PM
I like how the video review of the ARMIGA lists a Con as "Amiga games are hard." :-)

Save states? Only wimps need those. :-)

-Adrian

Amiga Games Hard? ...more like impossible... Future Wars >
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwU7eY3VMF4#t=10m00s

jwiede
05-26-2017, 11:21 PM
I wonder if Newtek has plans for a new Amiga version of Lightwave.

I hope not, they seem to have enough problems supporting Mac LW even as well as they support Windows LW.

If they DO consider adding another platform, there's compelling reasons why Linux should be next (growing 3D industry support, and studio demand).

MichaelT
05-27-2017, 03:55 AM
Amiga Games Hard? ...more like impossible... Future Wars >
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwU7eY3VMF4#t=10m00s

Hahahaha. Oh those were the days... the days when a player was actually required to have a brain :) The attention span of today's players is saddening.
Seriously though, I miss the fact that many games back then were unforgiving. Not like these days when players need holding hands, and a nanny.

Sensei
05-27-2017, 11:25 AM
Worms, Cannon Fodder, Lemmings, Pinball Dreams, Pinball Fantasies were games..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fVRaoBOQng

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os35Y7SFi7Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1PczA5o9bE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kZ-i9mGav4

jeric_synergy
05-27-2017, 11:18 PM
Ahhh, Lemmings. I coulda learned to play a saxophone in the time I spent on that.

MichaelT
05-28-2017, 02:21 AM
Speaking of Pinball Dreams.. It is funny how people think that it is Dice who created Battlefield. Oh I guess Refraction games (the ones who created Battlefield (Codename Eagle)) is relegated to the history dustbin :) But it is like that old child play "Jungle drum message" where facts change over time.