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WilliamVaughan
01-20-2017, 06:02 AM
A question that I get from LightWave users at least once or twice a week is how to create holes in a SubD mesh. In this video I show a few different ways to accomplish the same end result… a perfect hole in an all-quad SubD mesh.

http://www.pixelfondue.com/blog/lwholes

CaptainMarlowe
01-20-2017, 06:43 AM
Thanks !

erikals
01-20-2017, 11:05 AM
hi, thank you for testing,
i did test this some time back, and came to this conclusion >


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCRbluOdnjc

jwiede
01-20-2017, 01:08 PM
hi, thank you for testing,
i did test this some time back, and came to this conclusion >


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCRbluOdnjc

I couldn't understand in your video, what's the tool you used on the original four edges (~0:52), before using "fix 3-5"?

jeric_synergy
01-20-2017, 01:28 PM
A question that I get from LightWave users at least once or twice a week is how to create holes in a SubD mesh. In this video I show a few different ways to accomplish the same end result… a perfect hole in an all-quad SubD mesh.

http://www.pixelfondue.com/blog/lwholes

William, I don't know if I connect your voice with "solutions! thank gahd!" or what, but I find it very soothing. :D

The Chamfer bit is something I always forget: somehow Chamfer never made it into my mindspace. :(

Kevbarnes
01-20-2017, 04:53 PM
what's the tool you used on the original four edges (~0:52), before using "fix 3-5"?

It was the 'Connect' Tool (Shortcut key = L) - I've not used it for this before, but this is cool.

jwiede
01-20-2017, 05:46 PM
It was the 'Connect' Tool (Shortcut key = L) - I've not used it for this before, but this is cool.

Aha, thanks!

Yeah, that's an interesting use of Connect.

jeric_synergy
01-20-2017, 05:57 PM
Aha, thanks!

Yeah, that's an interesting use of Connect.

Yeah, it's confusing, but correct. Of course, one could use SPLIT, but you'd have to chose the points AND the polys, for a net increase in clicks.

jwiede
01-20-2017, 06:05 PM
Yeah, it's confusing, but correct. Of course, one could use SPLIT, but you'd have to chose the points AND the polys, for a net increase in clicks.

Quite a rich irony vein present from being equally-feasible using either "Connect" or "Split", yes? :devil:

jeric_synergy
01-20-2017, 06:31 PM
Indeed it is. But I think Connect has some context sensitive behaviours....::checks:: .... actually they're still fairly UNintuitive, given the name:

Two UNCONNECTED Edges+Connect=point bisecting the edge. That seems a bit random. Useful, but random.

Any two Edges of the same poly are indeed connected.

djwaterman
01-20-2017, 09:11 PM
Going on William's video, he could've included one other technique, which is to select that center point and use rounder on it, dialing up the inset distance and reducing the rounding polygons to 2. That also produces a circle.

erikals
01-20-2017, 10:51 PM
yes, an interesting technique, shown here,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_TT7CMSc5U

there are many ways, and the most efficient one for 4 polys is to use PX Navel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYC_tjbJO58

erikals
01-20-2017, 10:57 PM
a plugin of use is also Circlify by MentalFish
not perfect, but useful at times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqmWMpxOm-o

unstable
01-21-2017, 07:56 AM
yes, an interesting technique, shown here,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_TT7CMSc5U

there are many ways, and the most efficient one for 4 polys is to use PX Navel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYC_tjbJO58

This looks really useful, but I don't think the plugin exist any longer. I can't find it. I found this http://www.pictrix.jp/?page_id=78 but no navel that I can tell

MonroePoteet
01-21-2017, 08:03 AM
This looks really useful, but I don't think the plugin exist any longer. I can't find it. I found this http://www.pictrix.jp/?page_id=78 but no navel that I can tell

It's in the Freeware page under "N":

http://www.pictrix.jp/?page_id=81#a-n

mTp

erikals
01-21-2017, 08:08 AM
plugin is found here >
http://www.pictrix.jp/?s=Px_Navel&submit=Search

[edit: hmm, search function seems to not work at the moment...]

Norka
01-21-2017, 08:12 AM
a plugin of use is also Circlify by MentalFish
not perfect, but useful at times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqmWMpxOm-o


^ That's no moon!...

erikals
01-21-2017, 08:20 AM
:)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nho44lGVV8

unstable
01-21-2017, 11:25 AM
plugin is found here >
http://www.pictrix.jp/?s=Px_Navel&submit=Search

[edit: hmm, search function seems to not work at the moment...]

Your link and MT's both give me Page Not found when clicked. :oye:

bazsa73
01-21-2017, 11:36 AM
Great thread for sure. I wonder how to make these holes let's say in a low poly asset where we have limited amount of geomtery. It leads to ugly triangulation, isn't it? Is it normal?
I don't like those spider weblike triangulated meshes or is it totally okay? I'm a subdiv man rather.

MonroePoteet
01-21-2017, 11:55 AM
It's in the Freeware page under "N":

http://www.pictrix.jp/?page_id=81#a-n

mTp

This worked for me when I posted it, and worked again seconds ago. Site blocked in your firewall, maybe?

mTp

jeric_synergy
01-21-2017, 11:55 AM
....in a low poly asset where we have limited amount of geomtery. It leads to ugly triangulation, isn't it? Is it normal?
I don't like those spider weblike triangulated meshes or is it totally okay? I'm a subdiv man rather.
Post an example, with wires.

erikals
01-21-2017, 12:14 PM
Your link and MT's both give me Page Not found when clicked.
yes, sorry, seems like PicTrix site "search function" doesn't work at the moment...

unstable
01-21-2017, 01:30 PM
This worked for me when I posted it, and worked again seconds ago. Site blocked in your firewall, maybe?

mTp

I don't think a firewall creates a page not found, but maybe. Did you actually click on the Navel link under the N, that's where I'm receiving page not found. Your link displays the page but the follow on link is broke.

jwiede
01-21-2017, 02:02 PM
I don't think a firewall creates a page not found, but maybe. Did you actually click on the Navel link under the N, that's where I'm receiving page not found. Your link displays the page but the follow on link is broke.

Yeah, I'm not able to reach the actual Px_Navel page (the one with DL links) either. Most links to it on the site trigger a search that ultimately ends in either a blank page or 'page not found'.

Spinland
01-21-2017, 03:28 PM
This worked for me when I posted it, and worked again seconds ago. Site blocked in your firewall, maybe?

mTp

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MonroePoteet
01-21-2017, 03:37 PM
Ah, OK. Sorry! Using the filename of the ZIP file I previously downloaded, I did a GOOGLE search "PX_Navel64 site:pictrix.jp" and it pointed me here:

http://www.pictrix.jp/?m=20121217

Apparently he archived this plugin and then removed it from the Freeware page, expecting his Search to find it on the aforementioned page.

mTp

gerry_g
01-21-2017, 04:14 PM
they have old file extension p. not plugin., a/ I already have that, b/ it won't run, least not on a Mac

jwiede
01-21-2017, 04:23 PM
http://www.pictrix.jp/?paged=13 (more recent UB32/64 version for Mac) (http://www.pictrix.jp/?paged=13)

gerry_g
01-21-2017, 05:12 PM
Many thanks my version was from 2010, this one is from 2012, runs fine....ish, zero interactivity but there you go

Spinland
01-21-2017, 06:16 PM
You're Da Mang, John; thanks for the link! :beerchug:

jwiede
01-22-2017, 05:14 PM
Many thanks my version was from 2010, this one is from 2012, runs fine....ish, zero interactivity but there you go

After the introduction of Virtual Studio, some older tools require switching on Virtual Studio "Live" mode to regain the full interactivity they previously offered (tended to be Layout tools, though, not sure it has any impact on Modeler tools at all). I haven’t checked to see whether that helps in this specific case, but worth a try if it doesn't seem to be working properly w.r.t. interactivity.