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nbdy
10-31-2016, 12:32 PM
I am trying to re-install LW v11.6.3 on my Mac running Sierra 10.12.1.

The LW installer does nothing. When I activate the installer I get a dialog asking to enter my password
for the install... then nothing happens.

I have 2015.3 running on this machine. It seems to work fine.

anyone else have this issue?

nbdy
11-01-2016, 10:33 AM
Anybody?

CaptainMarlowe
11-02-2016, 06:12 AM
Sorry, still on El Capitan...

artyfaque
04-14-2017, 12:43 PM
I am trying to re-install LW v11.6.3 on my Mac running Sierra 10.12.1.

The LW installer does nothing. When I activate the installer I get a dialog asking to enter my password
for the install... then nothing happens.

I have 2015.3 running on this machine. It seems to work fine.

anyone else have this issue?

Same problem. Lightwave 3d 11.6. I'm moving to a new iMac loaded with Sierra. Moving from an older iMac with El Capitan.

Downloaded the installer from my Lightwave Account page. When I begin the install, follow the prompts, and then I enter my machine's password, and then nothing happens.

I looked into migrating assistant, but the migration system has changed along with the chord plugins. Used airdrop to bring over the NewTek folder containing my Lightwave 11.6 applications. I assumed that I could reenter my serial number on first launch.

I launch Modler, and Mac doesn't want to open it because it's not from the Apple App Store. I override and open it anyway and it encounters a problem, and suggests that I find out if it is compatible with Sierra.

Should I assume that 11.6 won't work on Sierra? Is there a patch?

gerry_g
04-14-2017, 04:01 PM
install it in a previous OS and drag and drop it to the new OS is alternate solution, but yeah right click to open and choose open, some people have reported broken things here and there, it seemed to open ok for me but didn't test it much beyond drag out a primitive, have since deleted it as I have 2015.3. Installing it won't break the OS but it won't run perfect as an app will have to upgrade at some point but then file requester windows don't open correctly in 2015 either when run in Sierra so you can't win.

jwiede
04-17-2017, 09:50 AM
but then file requester windows don't open correctly in 2015 either when run in Sierra so you can't win.

Hmm, not seeing this issue here (on Sierra), can you describe a bit more?

gerry_g
04-17-2017, 05:32 PM
they fail to write a windows property list so therefore do not remember the previous size they were dragged out to and perpetually default to their minimum size upon being called which is a total pain in the ***, particularly as Sierra as done away with the min max hide buttons, is that explicit enough for you.( in English 'arse' is not deemed an expletive but perfectly expectable in every day usage )

jwiede
04-18-2017, 10:52 AM
I see what you mean. I normally run "DefaultFolderX" (which boosts the default size a bit) and use "columns" mode, the combo seems to make the default a bit more tolerable. Agreed, though, it'd be great if LW properly remembered sizing and placement for dialogs, palette windows, etc. reliably.

gerry_g
04-18-2017, 01:15 PM
Numerous times I had thought to get this too but when I read how it loads as sepperate app and runs on top of rather replace the Finder I thought better of it, if there is one good thing you can say about Windows is the quality of its finder system, oh and snapable windows.

valanchan
05-08-2017, 10:45 PM
If the installer won't work can I use a USB drive?

valanchan
05-09-2017, 03:22 AM
If the installer won't work can I use a USB drive?

Answering my own question :)

I installed onto a USB thumb drive using the "minimum" setting.
Copied/paste to my Mac drive and all is good.

Fringe benefit is I have a USB that runs LW.

Scazzino
05-17-2017, 10:34 AM
Yes, whenever you have a problem with an installer on a newer system. Try installing on an older system and just copying everything over to the new system. Sometimes the installers are more finicky than the actual software.

corsa
05-22-2017, 03:00 PM
particularly as Sierra as done away with the min max hide buttons,

Just a general macOS Sierra tip: with most apps, you can double-click the window title bar of the app to toggle between max/min sizes like the button used to do, now that the button has been changed to the full-screen button.

Not sure if that works with 11.6, but I just tried it on 2015.3 demo and it works that way.

gerry_g
05-23-2017, 04:31 AM
some windows in some apps yes (very patchy and inconsistent) but not the open file window in either Modeler or Layout, fails miserably, presume it's a double whammy of LW defaulting to wrong type of window due to OS changes and a miserable lack of bug fixing and maintenance to fix it on LW3D's part.

OK so some resolution but takes so long to implement accurately that its quicker to drag the thing open, point remains Photoshop can manage to write a property list for the window still so the option must be available to the programmers, I guess we'l just have to chalk this one up to what you get with a subscription style license and what you get with a perpetual license, a few more scraps in your begging bowl.

Scazzino
05-23-2017, 07:05 AM
The other side of the subscription coin. A perpetual license lets you continue to run that old copy of the software on an older system as long as you may need it. Subscriptions often force updates and force you to update your system and everything else too, on their schedule. They also often drop support for older versions of their files. I've had many old projects that I needed to open and no longer could because the latest version of the software dropped support for those old files. I keep a few old Macs around from each generation loaded with old versions of the OS and software that created projects of that time, just for that purpose. That's not possible if you're forced into a subscription. After being in business for over 30 years now, I'll always choose perpetual licenses and drop any software that goes subscription only. It's just not worth the hassle in the long run for me, not to mention the cost. I don't upgrade as soon as something new comes out. I only upgrade when I have the need and the funds/projects/time available to make a large switch in my pipeline. With a perpetual license you're still free to run 11.6.3 on the systems that were available at the time, and can upgrade when you see fit to move to newer systems. With a subscription only that option would be gone.

gerry_g
05-23-2017, 07:40 AM
Yes I still have a whole set of every prog I have running under SnowLeopard, and yes the only and I do mean ONLY reason I updated to Sierra was because of bloody Photoshopping CC, but thats no excuse for LWGroup not doing some sort of bare minimum maintenance

Scazzino
05-23-2017, 07:45 AM
Have you looked into Affinity? I've switched from Illustrator to Affinity Designer. It also has what they call a pixel persona, which are pixel based layers. I now use it for everything I've used Illustrator/Freehand for in the past as well as most of what Photoshop was used for. They also have Affinity Photo if you need even more high end Photoshop type stuff. And the best part is no subscription!

https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/

life3d
05-28-2017, 08:10 AM
hello,
have the same problem. Can't install 11.63 version on Mac with Sierra .
the installer don't run.
any solution?
thanks

jwiede
06-07-2017, 10:37 AM
but thats no excuse for LWGroup not doing some sort of bare minimum maintenance

Agreed 100% -- Mac LW users always seem to get the "short straw" w.r.t. LW3DG fix/maintenance effort, but this current situation is deplorable.

Animated_Cagney
09-21-2017, 02:50 PM
Answering my own question :)

I installed onto a USB thumb drive using the "minimum" setting.
Copied/paste to my Mac drive and all is good.

Fringe benefit is I have a USB that runs LW.

So that really does seem to work running from a USB drive? Any stability or functionality issues??

Animated_Cagney
09-21-2017, 09:46 PM
Agreed 100% -- Mac LW users always seem to get the "short straw" w.r.t. LW3DG fix/maintenance effort, but this current situation is deplorable.

I agree with the "Short Straw" comment.

Hey guys, I have been a long time user of LW but I have not been out here on the group much at all. In fact, I lost my sign on which went to an apparently dead e-mail and had to create a new profile today. So I'm writing because much to my surprise last night I went to load 11.6.3 on a Sierra Macpro and of course LW installer does not work. So I came out here and found this thread and realized that this is known situation. So if 11.6.3 doesn't work with Sierra, how about LW 2015? I have used Cinema 4D previously, but I still prefer Lightwave.

I considered trying the 2015 demo on the Sierra machine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am more than willing to upgrade if it works.

Thanks

Frank P.

jwiede
09-25-2017, 02:05 AM
I considered trying the 2015 demo on the Sierra machine.

This is the best approach, as it also gives you a chance to judge functionality/stability of the LW features you care about most.