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ruffy
09-28-2015, 09:48 PM
Hi,

I am Mac based (Mac Pro 64GbRam 2.7 Ghz 12 core) but looking at using LW3D under Parallels with Motion Builder (PC only).
Just wondering if this will work and if there are any performance issues.

Markc
09-29-2015, 12:13 PM
Why not use Mac version of LW with Motionbuilder in Parallels (PC).
AFAIK you shouldn't have any issues with your Mac spec, having said that, I have never tried MotionBuilder and it might make a difference which version of Windows you use.

ruffy
09-29-2015, 04:06 PM
Yes, I intend to run LW in Partalles as well.
Have not purchased yet.
On another note I just wanted to say that the evaluation copy is pretty poor - I cannot do any testing since it is limited to just 400 points.
Seems like Windows 7 is the most appropriate since neither program specifies Window 10 compatability.

CaptainMarlowe
09-29-2015, 04:12 PM
I don't understand why you want to run Lightwave in parrallels. But if you want to use MB and LW in Windows, maybe you want to try the boot camp road ?

wesleycorgi
09-29-2015, 04:13 PM
Why don't you bootcamp your Mac instead? I have a Mac mini at work that runs all my Windows stuff, including an eval version of AutoCad right now. Parallels gives you a performance hit no matter what, whereas bootcamp it really doesn't.

I do 99% of all my LW stuff on Mac. But everyone once in awhile, I will use the Win version of LW.

wesleycorgi
09-29-2015, 04:15 PM
The beauty of LW is that your license includes both Windows and Mac version. You can use either (but not at the same time) without additional cost.

ruffy
09-29-2015, 04:26 PM
OK - thanks - I did not know that Parallels would give a performance issue.
I just thought that running LW on Mac and MB on Parallels would be a more seamless way of working rather than having to reboot overtime.

wesleycorgi
09-29-2015, 05:03 PM
What are you doing with Motion Builder? If it is simple enough and you haven't already purchased MB, there are some plug-ins and native LW solutions.

wesleycorgi
09-29-2015, 05:07 PM
Seems like Windows 7 is the most appropriate since neither program specifies Window 10 compatability.

I've used Lightwave on Win 10 (and 8.x) with no issues.

ruffy
09-29-2015, 05:42 PM
OK - I am a 3D Body Scanner.
I use 80 cameras to produce photo-realistic models.
I am too old and cranky to learn Maya:)
LW with Genoma seems to be very powerful.
I was using Modo, but the mocap data for ACS2 is too specific and only reads 3DSMax files that you would typically build out of Mixamo.
I would use MB to apply mocap data.
If there is a more appropriate solution, then please let me know.
I have not purchased anything yet - just evaluating possible solutions.

ernpchan
09-29-2015, 05:55 PM
On another note I just wanted to say that the evaluation copy is pretty poor - I cannot do any testing since it is limited to just 400 points.


I believe the demo is full functioning for 30 days. According to this link it is.

https://www.lightwave3d.com/try/

ruffy
09-29-2015, 06:00 PM
The evaluation version is limited to 400 points which means I cannot evaluate anything that I do - even a small model is 24k vets.

ernpchan
09-29-2015, 06:04 PM
The evaluation version is limited to 400 points which means I cannot evaluate anything that I do - even a small model is 24k vets.

Ah sorry. The full featured version was for Siggraph.
https://www.lightwave3d.com/news/article/free-90-day-lightwave-2015-full-feature-trial-software-available-during-siggraph-week-2015/

Maybe ask customer support if they can give you a temp license.

ruffy
09-29-2015, 06:10 PM
Will do - thanks

ruffy
09-29-2015, 06:39 PM
Silly me forgot to register - all working now:)
So, I will use BootCamp with Windows 10 - is there any preferred version of Windows 10?
I would try MB as an education product for evaluation.
If there is an alternative to MB, then great!

wesleycorgi
09-29-2015, 10:39 PM
Nevron Motion: https://www.lightwave3d.com/nevronmotion/ - unfortunately, I don't think there is a trial for you to determine whether it meets your needs

LW IK booster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGRqrydOmV0 (sample video). You may want to invest in Ryan Roye's http://www.liberty3d.com/2014/02/the-comprehensive-guide-to-ikbooster-by-ryan-roye/

Online/mixamo: https://www.mixamo.com/

Online/Ikinema: http://www.ikinema.com/webanimate/

CaptainMarlowe
09-29-2015, 10:50 PM
You may want to consider nevronmotion plug-in or rhriggit plug-in for appliying your mocap directly without MB.
I made a tutorial on NevronMotion some Time ago(totally on Mac). It's an awful one but it may help :

Part 1
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FCScfH7GooM
Part 2
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9QmLLV96lKo

ruffy
09-30-2015, 01:55 AM
Thanks everyone!
I am still disappointed that I have to press a button though - is there a program that will press the button for me?:)
What got me hooked on LW was Nevron and the ability to do mocap affordably for testing.
IKBooster looks great!

ruffy
09-30-2015, 02:05 AM
Also, this was the reason for going Bootcamp, so I could use Nevron and Kinect.

ruffy
09-30-2015, 02:28 AM
OK - The options seem to be Genoma or IKBooster.
With Body Scanning in mind which direction should I choose?

wesleycorgi
09-30-2015, 06:21 AM
Also, this was the reason for going Bootcamp, so I could use Nevron and Kinect.

Actually, that is one of the reasons that I use LW in Windows! However compared to other Kinect mocap solutions, Nevron is not quite as good and there is no indication that LW3DG will update the software to take advantage of the newer (and more precise) Kinect-like devices. Take a peak at Brekel (if you already haven't) first: http://brekel.com/

wesleycorgi
09-30-2015, 06:26 AM
That reminds me, not an issue since it sounds like you now want to go down the Bootcamp route, Nevron Kinect doesn't work with Parallels --- at least with Windows 7 (not sure about 8 or 10). At the time, I recall attempting to run Nevron Kinect functionality and found out that Microsoft purposefully thwarted use of the Kinect drivers in virtualized environments.

raymondtrace
09-30-2015, 07:17 AM
Ah sorry. The full featured version was for Siggraph.
https://www.lightwave3d.com/news/article/free-90-day-lightwave-2015-full-feature-trial-software-available-during-siggraph-week-2015/

Maybe ask customer support if they can give you a temp license.

Were we talking about the evaluation version for MB or LW?

LW offers a fully functional 30-day trial if obtained through an account on newtek's web site. The Siggraph offering was a 90-day trial. After either of the LW trials, the software goes into 'discovery' mode with the limitations.

ruffy
10-01-2015, 04:13 AM
Thanks everyone.
I am, eventually, hoping to understand all this myself.
I have been let down by 2 people - 1 gratis and 1 paid to do provide an example for me.
Would any one like to earn a couple of hundred$$$ to work on an example for me?
If yes, then I will provide you with:
- 3d body scan
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10658770/amy2-ps2.zip
- 3d scene assets
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10658770/Tennis%20Collection3.zip
- bvh data
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10658770/demo-20080426-tennis.zip
- an example of the camera move - essentially a fly around of a tennis stadium.
- https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10658770/02a.mov.zip

I really need it to be done in a couple of days and was thinking of using Rebus to render.