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WilliamVaughan
12-06-2003, 12:59 PM
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WilliamVaughan
12-06-2003, 12:59 PM
Layout....boy have we come along way :)

hrgiger
12-06-2003, 01:03 PM
Well, obviously Lightwave is moving backwards because I dont' remember seeing an option in LW7 about adding a sharp terminator! :D

WilliamVaughan
12-06-2003, 01:04 PM
I still miss the Render Sample Window :)

ALOT!

Whylee
12-06-2003, 01:11 PM
you can add a sharp terminator but it's under advanced and diffuse sharpness as a percentage now instead of just on or off. But if you were being sarcastic then disregard ;)

DigiLusionist
12-06-2003, 02:06 PM
Boy, those images are scary! I remember them!

Sort of like looking at your youngest child and recognizing your more mature older child in his face.

Zach
12-06-2003, 02:34 PM
It's amazing how great LightWave was with such a bleak interface.

archiea
12-06-2003, 02:56 PM
Proton, shirley you can come up with more vintage screens... Oh and sorry for calling you Shirley...:rolleyes:

How about some 1.0 screen shots, eh? Who's truly LW hardcore here.....

lunarcamel
12-06-2003, 03:22 PM
That sounds like a challenge!

If I felt like dusting off the old video toaster maybe I'd grab a few pics of Lightwave.

The first object I loaded was an "Urn" - I think that was included on the setup disks (about 28 of them in all) for a few years - lol it was terrible ;)

eggy
12-06-2003, 03:34 PM
We all know old Lightwave versions, how about a few new screen craps about the LW future ?

We all hope 8 would be great, but version 8.5 or 9, damn I want to know more about that.

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dmg3d
12-06-2003, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by proton
Layout....boy have we come along way :)

Uh... whatdaya mean??... is there a newer version out now? Like a 5.7 or something?

Boy, I gotta keep up on this stuff!
:p

-Dave

Elmar Moelzer
12-06-2003, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by eggy

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Hehe, only over my dead body, LOL
CU
Elmar

Rei
12-06-2003, 04:29 PM
what you say!

I still have 5.5 installed on one of my machines... although i think the machine is now in several hundred parts all over my room (mmm hammertime!)

milkman
12-06-2003, 04:37 PM
how bout some LW8 screenshots?

Karmacop
12-06-2003, 05:30 PM
Pssst, William, you're meant to be posting new Lightwave shots, not old ones :p

Simon
12-07-2003, 02:47 AM
Proton - I liked that 'Render Sample' window because if you made a mistake/accidentally removed a texture, or just didn't like the change you made, you could go back a few steps and put the surface back to what it was before ..... whoooaaa a sort of undo. Well almost.

Nemoid
12-07-2003, 06:05 AM
So, Proton, you mean we'll have render sample window AGAIN? :)

Flashfire|REAL
12-07-2003, 06:17 AM
Originally posted by dmg3d
Uh... whatdaya mean??... is there a newer version out now? Like a 5.7 or something?

Boy, I gotta keep up on this stuff!
:p

-Dave Version 5.7 was never released to the public - it did exist however for some LW production houses and contained specific tool additions for their needs.

But since we're doing a remember when...

http://personal.southern.edu/~dascott/lwhistory/

tasmanian
12-07-2003, 06:47 AM
Yep, that's it ! Best interface LW ever had. An improvement on the Amiga style one and not as gadgety as the current ones
And surely now LW [8] will have this nice style again...:p

cresshead
12-07-2003, 08:24 AM
Has anyone got a single clue just why proton posted screen dumps of lightwave 5.6?

is it to demonstrate the new look lightwave 8 will have with the NEW development team at the helm rather than the other people who left to make other things...

proton?
chuck?

anyone!

Chuck
12-07-2003, 09:36 AM
I wouldn't read any hints into the post. Some study of where we've been is certainly useful for consideration for the future, though, so I, for one, am glad Proton is looking at and thinking about past versions.

cresshead
12-07-2003, 09:47 AM
okay, thanks for the insight chuck.

i quite like the look of lightwave 5.6 BTW...nice n clean.

steve g

Elmar Moelzer
12-08-2003, 03:32 AM
Cresshead, I liked 5.6 too.
It was still the fastest version of LW (in all aspects), IMHO.
I really miss it sometimes.
On those Surface- samples, yes they were very usefull.
I still have to wonder why they were removed for LW 6.0.
CU
Elmar

colkai
12-08-2003, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by DigiLusionist
Boy, those images are scary! I remember them!



Remember them, I loaded it up only the other day! ;)
Some of my older scenes use steamer and the rust plugins - not available in LW7.5 so my 5.6C sits along side it.

Emmanuel
12-09-2003, 10:18 AM
Yeah, the samples rocked, I thought they'd just add rotation/resizing to them in 6 as in MAX at the time, but nope :(
They were really quicker than the current implementation where You must save the surface to the presets permanetly :(

Earl
12-09-2003, 10:52 AM
Agreed! The sample render panel was awesome. I'd love to see it brought back in some form or another.

Alan Daniels
12-09-2003, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by hrgiger
Well, obviously Lightwave is moving backwards because I dont' remember seeing an option in LW7 about adding a sharp terminator! :D

No, those are fine, it's those DULL terminators you have to look out for. You tell them you're NOT John Connor but they keep coming after you anyway.

(Dumb joke. Please disregard.) :D

anieves
12-09-2003, 03:47 PM
well, I must be one of the few that didn't like that samples window and don't want to see it back. Besides out of curiosity, all of you that think LW surfacing should move to node base surfacing (like myself) how do you think that samples window would work? I can not see that working right in a node base surfacing system.

The samples window is in the past, nodes are in the future, that's where the industry has been moving towards.

bobakabob
12-09-2003, 04:18 PM
Amazing to think of the stunning work artists were producing from a program with an interface as simple as 5.6...

Elmar Moelzer
12-09-2003, 05:08 PM
bobakabob, ou have not seen the LW4.0 - interface yet, have you?
CU
Elmar

bobakabob
12-09-2003, 05:13 PM
Point taken, Elmar... no disrespect to the mighty 4!

js33
12-09-2003, 05:16 PM
What about 3.5, 3.1, 2.0, 1.0?

Babylon 5 and Seaquest DSV were done on Version 3-3.5 on the Amiga. They may have carried over to 4 on the PC but I believe most of the work was done on Amigas.

I know someone posted a screen shot of LW 1.0. Was any notable work done in LW 1.0?

Cheers,
JS

TSpyrison
12-09-2003, 05:27 PM
Dont forget version 1 and 2.
Im proud to say ive been using it since version 2.0 :)

You'd think i would be better than i am now wouldn't ya? :D

Elmar Moelzer
12-10-2003, 12:38 AM
Well, I only knew LW4.0 personally.
No shaded preview and even simpler interface ;-)
Yet it was very powerfull for the time...!
CU
Elmar

Matt
12-10-2003, 02:21 AM
Is it just me or does anyone else think that the latest interface for v8 looks very similar to this version of LightWave?

Phil
12-10-2003, 04:15 AM
Originally posted by bobakabob
Amazing to think of the stunning work artists were producing from a program with an interface as simple as 5.6...

One of the advantages was that you always knew where the tools were. With the new interface randomly (not alphabetically) sorting plugins in menus and throwing other entries into additional, it's a lot more work than it should be to find plugins (which seem to comprise most of LW's feature set these days).

I have no idea why it is proving so difficult to sort plugins in alphabetical order. Whatever the reasons, one can only hope that this gets sorted out before too much longer - the current system is fast becoming a mess. It's easy enough (although time consuming) to arrange some of the plugins into a sort of order, but those stuck in object replacement/image filter/etc. cannot have their deficient order corrected in any way that I know of. Nor can frequently used plugins of these types be placed near the beginning of the menu so that they can be readily accessed.

The old 5.6 UI was simple and it worked - the current one is complex and oft gets in the way IMHO. I spend more time than I would like hunting for the location of plugins in menus that are scattered across the interface.

anieves
12-10-2003, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by Matt
Is it just me or does anyone else think that the latest interface for v8 looks very similar to this version of LightWave?

it's not just you.:)