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Dan Ritchie
04-09-2015, 02:32 PM
What is a good laptop for lightwave... under $600-ish...

vonpietro
04-09-2015, 06:22 PM
1279http://www.toshiba.com/us/laptop-finder#4294967002+25+216+260+4294948602~10~0~p_Fea tured

VERY RESPECTABLE - UPGRADE THE RAM FOR ANOTHER $150 TO 24 GIGS - (A MUST TO GET THE MOST OUT OF lightwave and THE LAPTOP) do NOT BUY ram from toshiba it's way to expensive - should cost $75 per on amazon.

the price goes as low as 1200 - usually around black friday - so it'l be 1279 for awhile.
1) i7 cpu boosts to 3.2ghz while rendering
2) ram to 24 gigs - you can goto 32 but you have to go and have toshiba replace the internal 4gigs (or void the warranty when it runs out and do it yourself)
3) graphics card is 1000 cuda cores and 3 gigs of ram that is only 1/3 of a titan!! so very respectable- and runs skyrim really well. (turbulance fd ran something like 4x faster than the cpu)
4) excellent sound as a side benefit - its got super sound system
5) 17 inch screen at 1920x1080 - just buy a cheap monitor and plug it in and have a two monitor system (i recommend goodwill) i picked up a 1440x900 monitor for 16.50 - cant go wrong for that price thats a fancy dinner !!
6)make sure to get dual wireless upgrade - its worth it for better internet!! (ok i see it includes this great)

hope that helps - i'm not sure whatelse is out there - but it was a very good price point and had better graphics than say the HP envy.

Nothing but the best for LW

Marander
04-10-2015, 03:33 AM
While this Toshiba is certainly a nice HW configuration, you cannot just compare CUDA cores of a mobile GPU and a TITAN card (they have way different clock rates etc.). Even the 770M GPU has less than half the performance of a 770 desktop card GPU. Also, rendering on a notebook is not ideal, the cooling is not really made for constantly running all CPU cores at 100%.

I would have a look at HP laptops (desktop replacements with dedicated graphic cards, GF 970M if available). Under / around $600 will be difficult though, for that price range you can get for example a HP ProBook but with only Core i5, no SSD and Intel graphics. Acer and Lenovo are probably the cheapest notebooks but I can't recommend them due to my previous experience with various models. HP's were most reliable for me. Don't know about Toshiba. The Toshiba mentioned above has a list price of $1400.

mav3rick
04-10-2015, 04:40 AM
i would say NONE... since everyone uses 16:9 display.... maybe somethin will change with 4k... to hell my old dell inspireon 1720 has better display than my latest ASUS ROG with all those extra features... :( i would pay arm and leg for extra 200 vertical pixels .

so if i am you with extra money in pocket... save yourself frustration and use it for something else... its ok to own one but it is really only useful for specially occasions when you cannot reach your desktop and even that is PAINFUL experience.

i am owning ASUS ROG only to help me if i am out of studio for few days and need to finish somethin out of office. so in 1 year of owning asus rog i have used it not more than 10 hours total time...

ianr
04-10-2015, 05:39 AM
Microsoft Surface Tablet/lap is worth a look,
if you model alot, good with the fab LWBrush
plug in. No good for huge sims, its atrade off.

jasonwestmas
04-10-2015, 11:53 AM
Whatever you buy don't get any of that integrated graphics garbage.

Dan Ritchie
04-10-2015, 02:53 PM
Hence, I usually buy AMD, because they generally have better integrated graphics, but AMD is about the opposite of what LW needs. They have 4 integer cores and greatish graphics, but only 2 float cores and so-so multithreading, and no cuda. Admitedly, the AMD graphics is fine for Ogl in LW, and the turbo is enough to make the single threaded parts ok, but there's not a lot of rendering oomph, and threading efficiency and turbo goes down when under a load. Intel generally has 4 decoders and 2 full cores, except in the high end models, where it's 2x that. Am am currently on an FX 7500, which can feel anything like an i7 to an i3 depending on what it's doing.
Screen space doesn't matter that much to me, because I can't see straight anyway. Power usage is kind of important though.

spherical
04-10-2015, 02:54 PM
I'm curious as to why so many people try to run LightWave on laptops. Seems as if it's about 50% anymore. At one time, I did use a laptop, but as a render engine only, as it had a better processor than my desktops at the time (really ancient), had a dual graphics capability that included nVidia, but all of the modeling and scene set up was done on the workstations and transferred over. Tedious switching back and forth and keeping things in synch but the render speed was worth it; especially for an animation. Did use the laptop once when at a conference to show progress to a client but that was it. Those are, to me, special cases but I see people pouring money into laptops as their main machine. My 24" and 27" monitors aren't big enough. Trying to model on a screen that's approximately 1/4 the area just doesn't compute. SO, what's the draw?

jasonwestmas
04-10-2015, 04:27 PM
I have no idea why people use laptops unless you are tight on space or on the move a lot for whatever the reason. Bigger the desktop and airflow the better in my case.

vonpietro
04-10-2015, 06:20 PM
Dan - the toshiba is really excellent for lw - for the money you wont find better specs - at around 1400 you'll get a 24 gig i7 with a very decent graphics card - it also has super power specs runs in 1ghz mode if you need it.
Try and get similar for less - you'll see it's quite the challenge to do better than that lil toshiba after you put the ram in it.

if it's a money thing theres always this thing
http://flash.newegg.com/Product/N82E16834232401?icid=WP_12_04102015

squarewulf
04-11-2015, 11:11 AM
I have this

https://www.google.com/shopping/product/17901025194359822017?sclient=psy-ab&es_sm=93&biw=1920&bih=948&q=asus+rog&oq=asus+rog&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.&bvm=bv.90491159,d.eXY&tch=1&ech=1&psi=TlUpVaOcNcK_ggSY_4HACA.1428772181490.7&ei=d1UpVZPYM4WggwS37IGYAw&ved=0CPEHEKYrMA0

It kicks butt, not too great for GPU rendering but it gets the job done.

vonpietro
04-11-2015, 01:53 PM
its a third of a 980 which is very respectable being 2 years old.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+770M&id=2534

Ankan
04-12-2015, 06:57 AM
Im using a lenovo thinkpad e540 core i7 2.2ghz 16gb ram 1024gb hdd. Im not using it for rendering much tho. I went for a cheaper laptop and a powerhouse render desktop comp. Got alot more power for my money. And as long as my desktop is running at home i can send my scenes to it for rendering.

vonpietro
04-12-2015, 09:29 AM
I'LL tell you this - max ram is really amazing. It crazy how many times i can get past 16gb just doing normal stuff.
i've had plugins in modeler suck down nearly all the ram - a couple of times.

vonpietro
04-18-2015, 09:10 PM
so things like this popup from now and again
cheap but decent enough. But like Cinderella -only good for a day.

http://www.newegg.com/special/shellshocker.aspx?utm_medium=Email&utm_source=EXPRESS041815&nm_mc=EMC-EXPRESS041815&cm_mmc=EMC-EXPRESS041815-_-EMC-041815-Index-_-MECH-_-ShellShocker-EB3B&et_cid=17411&et_rid=12384781&et_p1=

OFF
04-19-2015, 01:47 AM
My choice (approximately).

2x Intel Xeon 6 Core x5650 2,66 ghz/12mb/6.40 GT/s 95 Вт LGA1366 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/INTEL-XEON-X5650-6-CORE-2-66GHz-12MB-6-40GT-s-95W-SLBV3-LGA-1366-/271643330827?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f3f34490b)

HP Z800 Workstation Motherboard Dual LGA 1366 Sockets (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-HP-Z800-Workstation-Motherboard-Dual-LGA-1366-Sockets-576202-001-460838-002-/181639748398?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4a929b2e)

etc.

:p