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erikals
01-14-2015, 04:01 PM
interesting twist...
http://io9.com/neill-blomkamps-secret-alien-movie-looks-so-good-were-f-1677082116

http://www.scified.com/sites_pics/6179807017142412.png

mummyman
01-14-2015, 06:57 PM
Ha, awesome.. as if!

prometheus
01-15-2015, 06:39 PM
nice artwork, havenīt read the novel of the alternative new alien...I think itīs a road to nowhere though with bringing in sigourney to that franchise again, even though She is sort of the face and icon for it.
Will have to await for prometheus 2 and see how the story goes there...probably even more Alianeted from horror and the alien dna than before I think, so that will leave us to hope for just a good scifi story at least.

erikals
02-19-2015, 05:12 AM
so, it's gonna happen... http://erikalstad.com/backup/misc.php_files/wink.gif

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/new-alien-movie-confirmed-at-fox-with-director-neill-blomkamp-1201436551

Davewriter
02-19-2015, 08:29 PM
He is a REAL fan. As in he did all of this artwork then he built a section of an alien ship all on his own. No, he didn't hammer it together himself - he rented a space and had it built to his design. Then he invited the suits over to do a walk through.
I guess it was worth the time and money.
There is no word - yet - on Sigurney taking part. She's said before that it still interested her. But she's also wanted to have a lot of input over the last couple of them.
But at least we have the possibility of seeing another Alien film.
And hopefully it won't Suck!

shrox
02-19-2015, 08:34 PM
I don't know, why not just do his own gig? I am kind of tired of reboots and remakes.

bobakabob
02-20-2015, 02:03 AM
Agreed.Blomkamp is a very talented director with his own unique style and good sense of pace. A new Alien film sounds exciting but it's obvious why Ridley Scott went off in the direction of Prometheus. Far more interesting, with impressive visuals though yet to reach its potential. How do you avoid just rehashing the same old face huggers, chases down claustrophobic passageways and snarling Aliens? It will take a genuine visionary to do something worthy. I hope Blomkamp pulls it off, he's a good choice if the producers don't want to kill the franchise off for good. The first two films were groundbreaking classics. But Giger's original imagery has been recycled so many times it's a crime e.g. the newborn was an abomination but not as intended (I was too disappointed to laugh along with the audience).

tyrot
02-20-2015, 04:07 AM
elysium was a terrible movie... now he is messing with alien.. not cool.

50one
02-20-2015, 04:51 AM
elysium was a terrible movie... now he is messing with alien.. not cool.

story wise? Perhaps, but CG was flawless.

ianr
02-20-2015, 06:24 AM
I have lots of mixed feelings about this from having been at the premerie night
at Leicester square Odeon,with my wife inspecting the detail on a spacesuit.
To my painter friend Roger who lived in Switzerland helping Giger through a
valley of depression & artistic Art Dept rejection. Through to lunch with the
writer William Gibson,softly tell me that all that was left of his commissioned
Alien script was the bar-code on Roger Glovers bald head.She, who has to remain
namesless, had filleted then, overwrote his script with her team.

So I return to this,a strong 'Spec' pitch has been green lit, so well done to Neil,.
I think in a Giger thread around at his passing we featured a Russian Artist who
is clearly inspired by the late great man,. That would be a good starting point.
Is Dan O' Bannon still alive to craft some tangable dialogue.?
Too many directors want to do it all these days so who can stop the OTT when
it leaches out & spoils a really good thing. At least Ridley completley took on that fetid
wreck of Giger's nightmares & strongly held it in the first movie.
Now what he does in Prom2 will show if he can get that'Luton-Van' jumping
sweaty Horror back into it? I feel we must get back to basics with Horror, something
that makes you jump in your seat is required?

erikals
02-20-2015, 07:50 AM
bit on that first part you wrote...

William Gibson's unused Alien 3 script (http://www.blastr.com/2013-3-27/read-neuromancer-author-william-gibsons-unused-alien-3-script)
also google Alien 3 script

no, sadly Dan O' Bannon passed away late December 2009
http://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2009/dec/18/dan-obannon-alien

there were many-many revisions of the Alien script though
and frankly it could've been a disaster
much like so many other iconic movies >

Star Wars A New Hope
there are so many things to mention here that could've made it a flop

Robocop
was supposed to fight like a ninja (!) but the suit turned out to weight a ton (luckily)

Blade Runner
endless fights on set, ending scene partly unscripted, improvised by actor Rutger Hauer

Jurrassic Park
was close to using stop-motion techniques only

Terminator
Lance Henriksen was originally meant to play the Terminator
https://alancook.wordpress.com/tag/james-camerons-concept-artwork

ianr
02-20-2015, 10:08 AM
Yeah Thanks Erikals, as I was i-phoning in my post,
I'd forgotten that Dan sadly passed away in 2009.
I have only remarked what I have had personal
connections with, simply that. William put a lot of
sweat & hard work into his Script,which you rightly
point out was in the Aliens 3 gestation timeframe.

Personally I loved District-9, so what are your thoughts
it this Green-Light?

My Reboot 'pick' here would have been the Helmers, Tarsem Singh
in tandem & held in check by Guiilume Del Torro, who still
has got all that 'Mountains of Madness' pitch in him to get out!

erikals
02-20-2015, 03:13 PM
yes, it's sad when icons leave... :/

sure was an interesting read what you wrote, there are a lot of things us mortals don't get to hear... http://erikalstad.com/backup/misc.php_files/smile.gif

yes, District 9 was fantastic, something fresh, something new... ! http://erikalstad.com/backup/misc.php_files/king.gif

and me too, i'm a big Guillermo del Toro fan, and Scott, i wonder how Christopher Nolan could've kicked it... could've been cool, but we'll never now...

Blomcamp isn't a bad choice, he knows some Alien history, and looks to take it more back to its roots, unlike Aliens by James Cameron, which turned out to be an Action movie, a good one, but an action movie non-the-less...

what's interesting here is that Blomcamp actually studied the original art of H.R. Giger

original H.R. Giger Alien Xenomorph without the semi-transparent dome >
http://whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Screen-Shot-2012-05-31-at-1.17.08-PM.png

Blomcamp's "revision" >
http://www.toplessrobot.com/ripleyhelmet.jpg


this also will make more of a natural transition between the Alien/Prometheus/Blomcamp-Alien universe...
interesting...

but, like someone said, if it works, don't mess with it.
doesn't matter anymore i guess, since they already messed things up with Alien3 / AlienVSPredator... etc etc...

shrox
02-20-2015, 03:44 PM
To me it's become plagiarism by just copying Giger's work (which I did when I was a kid) or it's now iconic in the sense that fluted columns are Greco/Roman or Hieroglyphics are Egyptian.

Then, there is this...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Paisley_Abbey_gargoyle_10.jpg

tyrot
02-20-2015, 03:53 PM
he could be vfx supervisor or something but not a director ... no ..no ... no... not after elysium .. he will shoot kind of documentary style alien movie... you ll see... or characters will fight each other 20 mins or something....

Nolan could give something to Alien... or Del Toro ... a big miss there ..

visually it could be pretty awesome .. but i dont know...Alien almost killed Fincher's career ... so you gotta be serious what you are doing what you are trying to accomplish .. It is not couple of robots and some fabricated tension and totally dead story line..
... Alien starts hunting its director first...

shrox
02-20-2015, 04:17 PM
... Alien starts hunting its director first...

bam!

erikals
02-20-2015, 04:23 PM
well said... http://erikalstad.com/backup/misc.php_files/king.gif

we shall see, the next Alien will be hard to make a blockbuster no mater what... \ : )

but like someone said... before they sold themselves to Disney... (!)

Story is King!

dsol
02-20-2015, 05:29 PM
If they're going to just do a write-off on Aliens 3 and 4, I'm cool with that. I always much preferred Mark Verheiden's comic version for Dark Horse anyway - which featured Newt and Hicks as the leads. And for those who've asked what more is there to explore in the Aliens universe, I say read the damn comics. There's a rich universe out there. And Prometheus really failed to tap it (Damn you Damon Lindelof!)

Davewriter
02-20-2015, 08:37 PM
I was at a SF con just after Alien came out and Dan O' Bannon was a guest speaker.
First off, I don't know what he was cooking on that night, but many parts of his mind were in different parts of space.
He spent nearly two hours grumping and complaining about how his script was butchered.
He had brought along story boards and production art and tried reading us through his version. Once Ash got into the lower level there was a whole space warp thing that happened, taking him on a journey through gigantic floating pyramids.
I don't remember getting back to the ship, so if his script hadn't been "butchered" the film would have been more a mini series.
Probably all for the best because the visuals would have been far beyond what could be done at the time.

waverguy
02-20-2015, 08:41 PM
How much does anyone want to bet Sharlto Copley will be not be far away for a casting call.

erikals
02-20-2015, 09:36 PM
Dan O' Bannon had some weird ideas, also some cool ones,
but all for the best i believe that it in the end was revised by others

by the way, cool Xenomorph render >


https://vimeo.com/118506021

Oedo 808
02-21-2015, 07:20 AM
one of his main plot threads involved a kind of contagion spread by the aliens that caused human skeletons to literally explode and produce more xenomorphs.

http://forums.newtek.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127134&d=1424528166

erikals
02-21-2015, 07:55 AM
...now that'd be a mess

ianr
02-21-2015, 10:13 AM
Thanks DaveWriter for Old Dan's Rant,well appreciated.

Interesting Shrox that you mention Eygptian? Greco Roman,

because Giger was very much into Ritual Magik at one time

and described the organic walls as 'tunnels of Set'. A Major

tragic motif around all that period was his dead wife as Lilith

incarnate. Etc.


I love the ideal that a Alien stalks Hollywood looking at all the Famous Directors
looking for the One, & when it finds them ? What does it do??? ahhh!

KurtF
02-21-2015, 10:54 AM
cool Xenomorph render

I'll say. My how things have changed. The people at BOSS Films didn't do an Alien that well for the third picture.

danielkaiser
02-21-2015, 03:19 PM
by the way, cool Xenomorph render >


https://vimeo.com/118506021


This guy needs to go in and fix the CGI in Alien 3

shrox
02-21-2015, 03:35 PM
https://vimeo.com/43421733

Emmanuel
02-25-2015, 09:29 AM
Ya know, "beeing a big fan" doesnt automagically make You the best director, especially if Your "fan vision" is rubbish. Singer was a big Superman fan, Webb was a big Spidey fan, Abrams is a big Star Trek fan, and the Strause brothers, of AvP fame are big Alien and Pred fans. Lucas and Spielberg sure were Indy fans, too. Doesnt mean You "get it" just because You are a fan.

JohnMarchant
02-25-2015, 09:56 AM
Abrams was never a Star Trek Fan, he even admitted that he knew very little about it and preferred Star Wars, but your premise is right. If i was a director and i did Star Wars Ep 1-3 then i would have made them more like the originals but that would not have worked for many. Now days people expect more wow CGI and maybe less character, i would have sucked because they would get less wow and more character. EP 4-6 got it right and especially 5, the one Lucas did not direct.

Davewriter
02-25-2015, 07:46 PM
One of the biggest problems will be with "Those Who Are."
Unfortunately there have been so many Producers and Executive Producers who have been attached to the Alien franchise over the years. Each of them automatically get a slice of the pie. And each of them get to add in their "Creative" ideas.
Just look at the torturous life of Alien3.
You could have the greatest story ever, but if "someone" decides that there needs to be a cute little Alien that looks like puppy - just to boost toy sales or to help sell a Happy Meal, cute Alien it is.
I'd love to see a Scare the Crap out of me Alien... but I'm not holding my breath.

danielkaiser
02-25-2015, 09:46 PM
One of the biggest problems will be with "Those Who Are."
Unfortunately there have been so many Producers and Executive Producers who have been attached to the Alien franchise over the years. Each of them automatically get a slice of the pie. And each of them get to add in their "Creative" ideas.
Just look at the torturous life of Alien3.
You could have the greatest story ever, but if "someone" decides that there needs to be a cute little Alien that looks like puppy - just to boost toy sales or to help sell a Happy Meal, cute Alien it is.
I'd love to see a Scare the Crap out of me Alien... but I'm not holding my breath.


Try playing Alien Isolation, I think it gave me a stroke and i'm seeing a doctor for PTSD, can't wait for the oculus rift to come out I hear it triples the stress level. The design of the game is outstanding and the AI is ruthless.

Davewriter
02-26-2015, 08:07 PM
After the last few miss fires game wise I hadn't looked at Alien Isolation. But I'll give it a spin.
Thanks!

erikals
07-23-2016, 11:53 AM
by the way...

Spoiler! - Don't click this link unless you want to see Alien Isolation Concept Art
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4462546/mediaviewer/rm1095361536

daforum
07-26-2016, 09:07 AM
Get Chris Cunningham to direct it he'd do a good job.
Where is he these days?

dsol
07-26-2016, 12:20 PM
Get Chris Cunningham to direct it he'd do a good job.
Where is he these days?

He's a bit mad. I mean, literally mad. That's why he's not doing much these days, apart from DJing

daforum
07-27-2016, 12:30 AM
Oh. I was hoping he'd make a comeback.
Hope he's not 'too' mad that he can't do anything...
...would like to see some feature from him.