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rednova
12-26-2014, 05:25 PM
Dear Lightwave Friends:

I was just reading POST magazine, and found for sale special cameras with 'digital film' ?
I do not understand what this is or what it does.
Can these cameras be used to project in a movie theater, and what does it take, to take
this digital film into theaters ?
Possible to use this digital film into theaters ?
Thank you !!!

ernpchan
12-26-2014, 06:07 PM
Doubt the camera can itself be used as a projector. Even if it is, it wouldn't be used in a movie theater. Stuff for the most part is still printed to film for theaters.

If a movie is projected digitally, they usually make a point that it's digital as a selling point.

shrox
12-26-2014, 06:31 PM
http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/08/20/history-doomed-to-repeat-project-promises-digital-cartridge-for-film-slrs

http://www.f-stopeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/silicon-film-EFS1.jpg

hazmat777
12-26-2014, 07:16 PM
Dear Lightwave Friends:

I was just reading POST magazine, and found for sale special cameras with 'digital film' ?
I do not understand what this is or what it does.
Can these cameras be used to project in a movie theater, and what does it take, to take
this digital film into theaters ?
Possible to use this digital film into theaters ?
Thank you !!!

This is how to shoot digital film. Forget about projecting it unless you spend the money on an actual projector.

http://kenrockwell.com/tech/free-digital-camera.htm

http://www.northcoastphoto.com/

Megalodon2.0
12-26-2014, 08:53 PM
Doubt the camera can itself be used as a projector. Even if it is, it wouldn't be used in a movie theater. Stuff for the most part is still printed to film for theaters.

If a movie is projected digitally, they usually make a point that it's digital as a selling point.
From what I have read recently, most films are sent to movie theaters via harddrive OR downloaded via satellite. Only very old theaters still use actual celluloid - AFAIK.

roboman
12-27-2014, 02:10 AM
Interesting, did a search on 'definition "digital film" ' and got several that said something like :

Digital film is any storage medium (such as a memory card, diskette, or recordable CD) used in a digital camera to capture and store images.

Probably not what they were talking about. You would probably need to look up that model on the manufactures site to have any kind of idea what they meant.

XswampyX
12-27-2014, 03:46 AM
It probably just a camera bundled with some software called "digital film tools" :- http://www.digitalfilmtools.com/

Surrealist.
12-27-2014, 04:52 AM
As far as digital film is concerned I am pretty sure it just relates to the more generic term for the process of capturing images or video digitally:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_cinematography

As for the projector, then yes, you could actually use a camera to project in a digital theater, depending on what outputs the camera has. But of course usually we would not do that, we'd bring it on a hard-drive in a computer or dvd/blue ray,

Digital projectors (even models used in theaters) can handle non-theatrical source media through connections on the back. More than likely the standard for that is DVI in most cases on newer models. Some older models might have other connections. Theatrical content is handled through a separate system that decrypts Hollywood movies.

To read up on the history of it this looks pretty good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_cinema

I actually visited a theater in Hollywood that was testing the projectors (back in 2003) that was used as a part of the initiative (DCI) mentioned in this article. Had an interesting chat with the technician.

Davewriter
12-27-2014, 08:55 PM
From what I have read recently, most films are sent to movie theaters via harddrive OR downloaded via satellite. Only very old theaters still use actual celluloid - AFAIK.

And it's fun watching a movie while someone starts the download of another... all on the same unit.
Ya see some movie...
Ya see some windows screens with someone mousing around to the selected...
Ya see the manager for a refund.

m.d.
12-27-2014, 10:05 PM
Dear Lightwave Friends:

I was just reading POST magazine, and found for sale special cameras with 'digital film' ?
I do not understand what this is or what it does.
Can these cameras be used to project in a movie theater, and what does it take, to take
this digital film into theaters ?
Possible to use this digital film into theaters ?
Thank you !!!

digital film may just be an expression, or poor wording...no such thing

To get a video into a digital cinema you need to render to a DCP file....a jpeg200 variant in MXF container (cineform likely the next standard)
The color space is completely different as well (DCI-P3) need your monitor calibrated for it


A lot of theaters still use film especially for IMAX. On its way out but still has a niche market in hollywood.
Christopher Nolan only shoots on film, as well as Spielberg.

Surprisingly most Hollywood movies....even if shot digital, still archive to film as that is how they have done it for years....and they are worried about future compatibility.

hazmat777
12-28-2014, 06:05 AM
digital film may just be an expression, or poor wording...no such thing

To get a video into a digital cinema you need to render to a DCP file....a jpeg200 variant in MXF container (cineform likely the next standard)
The color space is completely different as well (DCI-P3) need your monitor calibrated for it


A lot of theaters still use film especially for IMAX. On its way out but still has a niche market in hollywood.
Christopher Nolan only shoots on film, as well as Spielberg.

Surprisingly most Hollywood movies....even if shot digital, still archive to film as that is how they have done it for years....and they are worried about future compatibility.

This is a nice over view of what can be done even with "very old" film stock.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1906