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Ryan Roye
12-10-2014, 12:24 PM
Not sure why they don't post them here much. New videos out from lord Lino:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Uqs0_SVrE

Another video on Bullet Dynamics Content: Mars Rover (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdhS7dSaH5c) here

ernpchan
12-10-2014, 01:27 PM
Not sure why they don't post them here much.

They're use of the forum as a resource needs improvement imho.

MAUROCOR
12-10-2014, 02:00 PM
Very nice, Lino! Thanks for that!;)

safetyman
12-11-2014, 05:29 AM
Really cool!

djwaterman
12-11-2014, 05:54 AM
But it's not on the LW site yet. I've been checking and checking the official site and meanwhile they be sneaking them out on YouTube.

JamesCurtis
12-11-2014, 09:05 AM
Well, I have to say that YouTube is a great place for great exposure to the masses. I'm subscribed to thier channel. But I do agree that it would be nice if they were posted on their own site too, or maybe a Sticky withe the links posted here.

jeric_synergy
12-11-2014, 10:23 AM
But it's not on the LW site yet. I've been checking and checking the official site and meanwhile they be sneaking them out on YouTube.
Boys need a checklist. Seriously. "Sneaking" should never be used to describe customer outreach.

But checklists are Good. E.g:

[_] YouTube post
[_] Twitter announcement
[_] FB announcement
[_] Forum announcement
[_] Liberty3d forum announcement

Every time. They can assign it to that guy who collates the documentation corrections.

Ryan Roye
12-12-2014, 01:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJRYaiiB2O8

Ryan Roye
12-12-2014, 01:13 PM
claw example...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK16HRmAa14

Waves of light
12-12-2014, 01:57 PM
Lord Lino - he's going to love that one Ryan.

Great videos, but yes, they could do with sticking them on here as well as we the Lightwave3d site and youtube.com

jeric_synergy
12-12-2014, 04:09 PM
Lord Lino - he's going to love that one Ryan.
Great videos, but yes, they could do with sticking them on here as well as we the Lightwave3d site and youtube.com
Or at least TELL US they're never going to post such info on the forum, so we are 'forced' to check the other venues.

(Seriously, how difficult is a checklist? http://forums.newtek.com/showthread.php?144810-Some-new-LW3DG-videos&p=1413583&viewfull=1#post1413583 )

lino.grandi
12-13-2014, 09:31 AM
Thanks for the "Lord" Ryan! :D

I agree, we should tell users about new videos here on the forums.

But I have to say both YouTube and Facebook look far more "dynamic" and immediate.

A lot of users get almost real time help for any problem they meet in LightWave....I personally love helping when I can!

My first advice is to subscribe to the LightWave3D Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/LightWave3D?fref=ts

And to the YouTube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHH_DyamqSy1UJUCvYhdR8A

I agree, we would need some sticky post announcing new videos when available.

lino.grandi
12-13-2014, 09:36 AM
Boys need a checklist. Seriously. "Sneaking" should never be used to describe customer outreach.

But checklists are Good. E.g:

[_] YouTube post
[_] Twitter announcement
[_] FB announcement
[_] Forum announcement
[_] Liberty3d forum announcement

Every time. They can assign it to that guy who collates the documentation corrections.

We always do the following:

- YouTube post
- Twitter announcement
- FB announcement

...so you're all invited to join one of those, or all of them!

Doing it on the forum would be nice, but probably less effective than social networks. Let's see what we can do.

About Liberty, that does not depend on us.

jeric_synergy
12-13-2014, 10:24 AM
We always do the following:
- YouTube post
- Twitter announcement
- FB announcement
...so you're all invited to join one of those, or all of them!
Doing it on the forum would be nice, but probably less effective than social networks. Let's see what we can do.
About Liberty, that does not depend on us.
I'm not on Twitter (seems like a time-suck).
Liberty3d forum announcements are TOTALLY in your hands-- ANYONE CAN post there. (And it would be a nice gesture to a significant LW supporter/vender.)
Although I'm a subscriber to both FB page and YouTube, notifications seem spotty --not your problem, but you should be aware of the phenomena.

But if LW3dG thinks their own forum is ineffective, well, I don't know what to say. Your most hardcore users appear here DAILY, and many users mention "the community of help" to be one of LW's biggest draws.

Cutting and pasting announcements into a sticky thread doesn't seem all that onerous, when promoting LW is one's job, whoever that might be. 8~

allabulle
12-13-2014, 10:47 AM
This reluctance to post in their own forums is puzzling to me.

stiff paper
12-13-2014, 10:54 AM
@Jeric:
You can read the twitter feed without surrendering yourself to the hive-mind and undergoing the (seemingly) mandated mental void implant and personality wipe.
https://twitter.com/lightwave3d
I've taken to checking it every so often and thus far I haven't felt any ill effects. Honest. (Opens mouth wide, points, makes horrible screeching sound.)

Having said that, I will die a thousand deaths before I join facebook. Although I'm rather hoping that facebook will die before I do.

@Lino
I know the forum isn't controlled by LW3DG and I'm betting you'd all like it to be, and I know that sometimes it's a horrible and hostile environment, but surely it isn't really that inconvenient to have a sticky/locked announcement thread that's just used for things like something new being available.

jeric_synergy
12-13-2014, 10:59 AM
Like, maybe there could be a place specifically for such things.

Oh, wait, what's this?!?! http://forums.newtek.com/forumdisplay.php?278-NewTek-LightWave-3D-Group-Announcements

:stumped:

lino.grandi
12-13-2014, 12:30 PM
Like, maybe there could be a place specifically for such things.

Oh, wait, what's this?!?! http://forums.newtek.com/forumdisplay.php?278-NewTek-LightWave-3D-Group-Announcements

:stumped:

Yes, I agree. That would be the right place! I'll post there anytime a new video is available.

lino.grandi
12-13-2014, 12:33 PM
This reluctance to post in their own forums is puzzling to me.

Please no puzzling! There's no reluctance. Simply social networks look more appealing and immediate, that's all.

willin
12-13-2014, 02:10 PM
Please no puzzling! There's no reluctance. Simply social networks look more appealing and immediate, that's all.

Social media may be appealing to you youngsters but for us dinosaurs it as appealing as kidney stones. I would never knowingly bring either upon myself.

lino.grandi
12-13-2014, 02:20 PM
I would really like to be young!!!! :D
Social media, if well used, can be something really good. ;)
Isn't the forum itself some kind of social media?

jeric_synergy
12-13-2014, 04:22 PM
Simply social networks look more appealing and immediate, that's all.
In a way, that immediacy is a bug, not a feature. The 2 (!) LW FB pages I subscribe to scroll away, while the forum is nice and stable.

Lino, if you made a sticky thread with a very generic title ("LW3dG videos") , forum users could see the latest LW3dG's very easily. (And us oldsters wouldn't be so consarn confused, dagnabit. ;) )

willin
12-13-2014, 08:45 PM
It would have been nice if you would have included this videos in the monthly newsletter. Actually it would be nice if in every monthly newsletter you would include instructional videos on new and old lightwave tools. It would make some of us have something to look forward too and maybe the restless wouldn't be so loud or maybe not. And by the way this forums are a form of social media but a much slower form in which things can be explain to the fullest instead of in bits and pieces or tweets and facebook is never going to happen with me.

lino.grandi
12-14-2014, 03:09 AM
An e-mailer is coming announcing the new videos. It happened in the past and is going to happen again next week.
About Facebook, if you create an account and do not accept/request any "friendship" but only subscribe to the pages you're interested to, well, it becomes the best way of receiving news and solving problems.
You ask for a question on the LightWave page, you get immediate feedback. That's what is fast. And of course the help you receive is there, and can be read with no hurry.
Sometimes we just have to try, and use things in the right way.

Again, just an advice. This doesn't mean we'll not be using the forums (I already answered about this in another post).

http://forums.newtek.com/showthread.php?144810-Some-new-LW3DG-videos&p=1413968&viewfull=1#post1413968

hrgiger
12-14-2014, 07:18 AM
thanks for the videos Lino. Look forward to more highlighting the new 2015 features.

djwaterman
12-15-2014, 12:57 AM
The videos have been put up in the learning section of the LW site.

allabulle
12-15-2014, 01:33 AM
Yes, I agree. That would be the right place! I'll post there anytime a new video is available.

Thanks, Lino. :)

Lewis
12-15-2014, 01:37 AM
Excellent videos Lino, short enough to keep user interested, straight to the point and well explained. Kudos.

Megalodon2.0
12-15-2014, 03:59 AM
Thanks for the "Lord" Ryan! :D

I agree, we should tell users about new videos here on the forums.

But I have to say both YouTube and Facebook look far more "dynamic" and immediate.

A lot of users get almost real time help for any problem they meet in LightWave....I personally love helping when I can!

My first advice is to subscribe to the LightWave3D Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/LightWave3D?fref=ts

And to the YouTube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHH_DyamqSy1UJUCvYhdR8A

I agree, we would need some sticky post announcing new videos when available.

And another piece of "advice" would be to post them HERE in the LW3D forums. Seriously... How many times do people here have to complain that there is little to no communication between LW3DG and the userbase? Maybe the "userbase that browses social media" but not those who refuse to partake in FB or Twitter or rarely do. The LW3DG needs to seriously USE the forums as they were meant to be used - informing and helping the userbase. There is no rule against posting them here AND there. Or is there? :bangwall:

Megalodon2.0
12-15-2014, 04:01 AM
I would really like to be young!!!! :D
Social media, if well used, can be something really good. ;)
Isn't the forum itself some kind of social media?
Yes... and one where most users have been "hanging out" since the beginning. A resource that NEEDS to be used.

lino.grandi
12-15-2014, 07:25 AM
Megalodon....I thought I was clear about that!

http://forums.newtek.com/showthread.php?144810-Some-new-LW3DG-videos&p=1414052&viewfull=1#post1414052

jeric_synergy
12-15-2014, 10:10 AM
Yes, I agree. That would be the right place! I'll post there anytime a new video is available.
Thank you Lino.

Megalodon2.0
12-15-2014, 02:42 PM
Megalodon....I thought I was clear about that!

http://forums.newtek.com/showthread.php?144810-Some-new-LW3DG-videos&p=1414052&viewfull=1#post1414052

And that's great. But I check the forums often every day. An email is great, but in my case is not necessary - a post on the FORUM in a specific place where everyone knows to look is interacting with the userbase. Having said that 0 that IS a good idea since it will help others, so I commend that strategy as well.

A stray post here and there is not what is going to help - a specific place where EVERYONE knows that THAT is where information (news, videos, etc.) will be posted. (Perhaps Lightwave announcements?) There was a great deal of good information posted in that one thread that LW3DG can use. While there is no ONE perfect method to interact - as we already know since JUST using popular social media is not THE one - a regimented/specific area is needed. It's FAR easier to check in one location than peruse the entire LW forum for that "interaction" - wouldn't you say? ;)

Oh, and most importantly, thank you for the videos!

Cageman
12-15-2014, 03:39 PM
I agree, we would need some sticky post announcing new videos when available.

http://forums.newtek.com/forumdisplay.php?278-NewTek-LightWave-3D-Group-Announcements

;)

jeric_synergy
12-15-2014, 04:01 PM
It would also be good practice for USERS (ie not lw3dg staffers) to SUBSCRIBE even to non-open, sticky threads-- the forum software will then keep them on notice via the VIEW SUBSCRIBE and VIEW UNREAD features.

For me, just knowing there's one place to go check is Good. But, imo, it should be one thread, not a lot of separate posts.

Megalodon2.0
12-15-2014, 04:06 PM
http://forums.newtek.com/forumdisplay.php?278-NewTek-LightWave-3D-Group-Announcements

;)
Perfect - this was also suggested in that "better interaction" thread.

It would also be good practice for USERS (ie not lw3dg staffers) to SUBSCRIBE even to non-open, sticky threads-- the forum software will then keep them on notice via the VIEW SUBSCRIBE and VIEW UNREAD features.

For me, just knowing there's one place to go check is Good. But, imo, it should be one thread, not a lot of separate posts.

Exactly! And chances are they will get notified faster than email AND users will be "conditioned" to check the ONE thread and can start other threads to discuss.

BokadCastle
12-15-2014, 04:07 PM
Gosh you're a handsome-looking man, Lino.

Aint ya huh? aint ya just, uh-huh.

:jester:
The crazy jester.

caustics
12-15-2014, 04:11 PM
Youtube channel subscriptions works fine for me.

There are automatic email notifications for new additions but I check for them each couple of days anyway. In general I watch the videos first on my iPad to get an overview ... then coming back to one and another on my desktop if required.

Most important of all ... Keep the vids coming ... we'll spread the word ;-)

Regards.

jeric_synergy
12-15-2014, 07:17 PM
Now that it appears LW3dG has the resources to produce videos, and thank you VERY much for that Lino et al, any chance of getting BeeVee to include links to them in the PDF documentation? They ARE official LW3dG products, after all.

(Personally, I'd like any and all resources deemed worthy to be linked in the dox, but baby steps....)

MAUROCOR
12-16-2014, 05:29 AM
Nice videos, Lino! Now I can start playing with dynamic constraints safely. Thank you, mister Grandi!

BeeVee
12-16-2014, 05:40 AM
Inclusion in the docs is something I have experimented with, but adding a link to the videos is a good idea, as long as there is no link rot.

B

jeric_synergy
12-16-2014, 10:03 AM
Inclusion in the docs is something I have experimented with, but adding a link to the videos is a good idea, as long as there is no link rot.
B
Indeed: that would be out of LW3dG's control..... UNLESS those videos/tutes deemed worthy got hosted by LW3dG. :thumbsup:

BUT, maybe it wouldn't be such a big problem-- give it a year's trial and then decide. If there were easy ways for user to report link rot it might not be an issue.