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prometheus
10-06-2014, 08:20 PM
Well letīs see what links and collections we can gather as a showcase and resource, software doesnīt matter.
the most realistic might of course be real scanned heads etc, but there are good ones that are not scanned too.

We start of with this of course...

Ed ..from Chris jones...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjHiC0mt4Ts

prometheus
10-06-2014, 08:23 PM
and this is an impressive face rig for maya...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z86YsS-pVsQ

erikals
10-06-2014, 09:27 PM
always like The Matrix ones...

http://icatholic.net.cn/blog/attachs/12/5/07/1445/1002513603.jpg

prometheus
10-06-2014, 09:33 PM
always like The Matrix ones...

http://icatholic.net.cn/blog/attachs/12/5/07/1445/1002513603.jpg

yes..some of those were good, especially on Hugo Weavingīs agent smith,but some close up shots in matrix reloaded of neo were awful too.

erikals
10-06-2014, 11:04 PM
Poser + Octane

https://s3.amazonaws.com/bw-1651cf0d2f737d7adeab84d339dbabd3-gallery/media/folder_243/display_2424831.jpg

prometheus
10-07-2014, 08:43 AM
nuhhh?...you and I wish maybe. need to see wires first.

Edit...

A closer look of course reveals the polyhair, and hard edged limbs, so the lighting and the texturing is good to some degree that it actually fooled me...at distance, I never get that close to women anyway..so it is kind of hard for me to evaluate the real thing vs cgi:D

The eyes are also giving it away a little, as usual the aiming focus of cgi faces are as often not how a real person aims itīs focus.

erikals
10-07-2014, 10:18 AM
Poser eyes are bad actually, it's also vital to spend a lot of time on the eye surfacing in general.
good skin texture can also help, depending. here is Poser + Octane again...

http://www.erikalstad.com/cgtemp/Poser-Octane.png

prometheus
10-07-2014, 10:58 AM
heh..yeah, thats looking good..showcasing the eyes would probably destroy it, the beard isn+t that good either, otherwise there are so many cg faces with good lighting and surface/texturing, and what usally gives it away are the eye surface/texturing and also the light absortion within it, and a third element is theeye direction or aiming fokus, perhaps also those small eyelid tension over the eyeball, they are never equal over both eyes, that is what gives very very tiny subtle expressions to the eye, not even Chris Jones has made it so far in his very excellent ed WIPīs ...he might get there though.

Apart from that, there is the actual face symmetry, one can be baffled over many good images that shows extremly realism with the lighting and the surface texture , but then it is presented with a model that has symmetry all around the face, which destroys the realism quite a lot.

Michael

shrox
10-07-2014, 06:39 PM
I would think it's going to take a few people working together. One or two on surface/texture, another on the physiology and structure, then another on motion and subtleties of movement. No more than four people though, all specialists/generalists, which is just what many Lightwave users seem to be.

erikals
10-08-2014, 08:09 PM
Vray


http://vimeo.com/60096045

erikals
10-10-2014, 12:54 PM
not CG, but silicone >
https://www.behance.net/gallery/HYPER-REAL-SILICONE-SIGOURNEY-WEAVER-SCULPT/5150659

https://m1.behance.net/rendition/modules/43009341/disp/add6928ed321b9eeb7c1563061daac56.jpg

prometheus
10-10-2014, 01:10 PM
Thatīs darn stunning, even though something seems a bit off, I canīt nail it though, maybe just the photo shoot with itīs high reflectance or the surface reflections from the silicone that does that..I donīt know for sure?
Our favourite Heroine, she deserves a statue somewhere for fighting those bugs :)

erikals
10-10-2014, 03:28 PM
one thing is the eyes, fixed slightly here, but there are several things that could be improved, still, looks stunning...

http://www.erikalstad.com/cgtemp/Weaver.png

prometheus
10-10-2014, 06:11 PM
oh..my ..if animatronics,robotics, computer ai system and artists like this joins together, we could all have a sigourney weaver doll/robot to play with...Im not sure sigourney (read ripley) would improve of it...may it be touching her parts inappropiate, or the fact that she wasnīt that fond of androids, until bishop proved himself reliable that is.

would love to see this with robot tech beneath, when you look at todays human robo tech, they suffer from poor face construction and poor silicone, probably because the silicone face is drafted on to the electronics
and mechanics in such way that the original face structure getīs screwed up.

spherical
10-10-2014, 07:10 PM
I'll give it a go. A bit of color balance, levels on discreet channels and saturation on discreet channels.
124920

prometheus
10-15-2014, 05:56 PM
The curious case of Benjamin button was quite okay too, some vfx behind the sceneīs particulary with the face...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9twsVqWRR8


I loved the film too overall, and the music from alexandre desplat was so beautiful.

safetyman
10-16-2014, 05:04 AM
The CG face/head in that was too good -- no one knew it wasn't real so the fx didn't get as much buzz as it should have, even though it did win an Oscar for Visual Effects.

50one
10-16-2014, 06:06 AM
The CG face/head in that was too good -- no one knew it wasn't real so the fx didn't get as much buzz as it should have, even though it did win an Oscar for Visual Effects.

I knew it:) Only because they(DD) had this scene in their demo reel prior to the movie being released(like 3/4) years before any news about it and there was no info regarding what movie was the scene from. It seems they spent quite some time on this but the end effect is well worth it.

S