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alexs3d
08-12-2014, 01:41 AM
maybe this could be the thread for all the siggraph2014 info and talks.

here you find more infos, the new lightwave magazine, a nice lw11.6 + octane2 bundle and the showcase schedules with some cool presenters and tutorials.
https://www.lightwave3d.com/siggraph_2014/

CaptainMarlowe
08-12-2014, 01:49 AM
I hope these things will be released later on youtube so that those who can't follow the live stream have access to what's been showcased. Among which tuts with William Vaughan.

lightscape
08-12-2014, 02:28 AM
That lightwave and octane bundle is a pretty good deal saving 500usd for the bundle. It could attract new users wanting to use a good gpu renderer with a low cost 3d animation package.

Lewis
08-12-2014, 02:34 AM
Good work on the Magazine and WEB page/newsletter. Thanks LWG3D.

alexs3d
08-12-2014, 02:39 AM
yes, the articles in the new magazine are really great and inspiring :)

also some nice tuts bei lino about the octance render https://www.lightwave3d.com/lightwave_octane_promo/
would be cool if we get some more advanced tuts for octane with lightwave :)

lightscape
08-12-2014, 02:57 AM
Shouldn't the price of the upgrade bundle be lower? I'm tempted to upgrade another lightwave license to get the octane bundle.

Normal price
$1495 new
$695 upgrade

Siggraph price
$1595 new
$995 upgrade

There's some math error there.

Rob Powers or anyone?

Lewis
08-12-2014, 03:02 AM
Isn't that (higher) Price WITH Octane bundled ?

alexs3d
08-12-2014, 03:10 AM
the regular price for the upgrade and the octance plugin would be 1281 dollar, so you save 286 dollars when you upgrade now.

but yes, i also thought the upgrade could have been a little bit cheaper compared to the fullversion bundel price :)

lightscape
08-12-2014, 03:11 AM
The $995 upgrade for Siggraph is significantly higher by $300 to the normal price.
Buying new is only $100 higher than normal price.

Don't they want the stuck in pre lw 11 license to be upgraded?? :D

OnlineRender
08-12-2014, 04:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49Aq3jP8p1s.

saranine
08-12-2014, 05:48 AM
This is a great step by Newtek! The magazine is a fantastic step. For the first time in about a year on these forums I feel enthusiasm for the future of Lightwave and the associated software! Keep it up! :thumbsup:

MAUROCOR
08-12-2014, 06:23 AM
Great news, LW3DG! Well done and thanks for that!!!;)

Ryan Roye
08-12-2014, 07:10 AM
You want Octane if you need animated global illumination as Octane gives Lightwave a lot of muscle in that department (assuming you have a card in the ballpark of a 780TI or better).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAw3Qvk85ag

If you intend to update Lightwave and need a boost in the rendering and lighting workflow it's hard not to recommend Octane.

Snosrap
08-12-2014, 07:38 AM
Some nice reading indeed and very well presented by the LW3D Group. But I already own LW and don't need to be sold again, so where is my 11.7 info!! :)

Hail
08-12-2014, 07:57 AM
Some nice reading indeed and very well presented by the LW3D Group. But I already own LW and don't need to be sold again, so where is my 11.7 info!! :)

"Good things come to those who wait":)
Lol!

Chuck
08-12-2014, 09:32 AM
The $995 upgrade for Siggraph is significantly higher by $300 to the normal price.
Buying new is only $100 higher than normal price.

Don't they want the stuck in pre lw 11 license to be upgraded?? :D

With bundles, the LW3DG sets the best price they can on the upgrade and the full seat based on the cost split going to the bundled product. In this case, the bundled product is a full seat of Octane Render, and that seat has the same cost whether as part of a full seat bundle or an upgrade bundle. My guess would be that the $995 price is at least pretty close to making the upgrade bundle into a loss leader at LW3D's expense, if not actually there. Just my guess, though. I am not in the know or speaking in an official capacity on this topic.

96tele
08-12-2014, 09:44 AM
This. All sounds very cool, but exactly where is this going to be showcased? Is there a booth number we can look for? Thanks.

jboudreau
08-12-2014, 10:03 AM
Is anyone else having a problem with the links not working on the Lightwave Magazine PDF?

Thanks
Jason

devin
08-12-2014, 10:23 AM
This. All sounds very cool, but exactly where is this going to be showcased? Is there a booth number we can look for? Thanks.

My understanding is that they are doing a "virtual booth" online. There is no physical booth to be found at Siggraph.

Oddly, I don't see any links for the showcases listed though. Since they provide times, you would assume that these are going to be streamed.

Link (http://static.lightwave3d.com/marketing/mailers/08122014/siggraph_2014/index_final2.html)

jeric_synergy
08-12-2014, 10:36 AM
That magazine is nice. Well done.

96tele
08-12-2014, 11:02 AM
Do you have to register to win the copies of light wave?

Vong
08-12-2014, 11:03 AM
If you go here (https://www.lightwave3d.com/siggraph_2014/), at the bottom they will link to each video at the corresponding time.

djwaterman
08-12-2014, 11:09 AM
The reel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcMem5xpg3s


And yes I'm not able to get the content download links in the PDF to work either.

devin
08-12-2014, 11:09 AM
Ahhh... Thanks for the clarification.

Vong
08-12-2014, 11:27 AM
Yeah, the links in the PDF don't seem to work, but they work if you read it through ISSUU.

kdove
08-12-2014, 11:49 AM
Content links are not available in the PDF version -- only the online flip-page version (where it says: Click to Read). Look for the blue bubble with link icons (when you roll over them) and they will get you where you need to go.

Dexter2999
08-12-2014, 01:38 PM
Good choice of partnering guys!

SteveH
08-12-2014, 02:31 PM
Very nice magazine guys!

Dexter2999
08-12-2014, 02:34 PM
Shouldn't the price of the upgrade bundle be lower? I'm tempted to upgrade another lightwave license to get the octane bundle.

Normal price
$1495 new
$695 upgrade

Siggraph price
$1595 new
$995 upgrade

There's some math error there.

Rob Powers or anyone?

See if this makes the math any more pallatable.

Normal price
$1495 new (LW only)
$695 upgrade (LW only)

Siggraph Price
$1595 with Octane2 (normally $586)
$995 upgrade with Octane2

$995 split in half is $497.50. So you can call that $497.50 for LW and $497.50 for Octane. A discount on each.
You could call that $586 for Octane and $409 for the LW upgrade. (40% discount on LW.)
Or you could call it $695 for LW and Octane for $300. (48% discount on Octane.)


Hope this helps.

jboudreau
08-12-2014, 02:39 PM
Content links are not available in the PDF version -- only the online flip-page version (where it says: Click to Read). Look for the blue bubble with link icons (when you roll over them) and they will get you where you need to go.

OMG thanks, I didn't even know that was a different link, I thought that was the same link to the PDF one.

Thanks,
Jason

Tranimatronic
08-12-2014, 03:33 PM
Am I wrong in expecting these presentations to be at the siggraph event?
I turned up wandered around the exhibition hall, hung around the autodesk showcase area (just in case the lightwave showcase area was somewhere near), asked at the information desk - nothing.
Is there any lightwave presence at all at this years siggraph? if so where ?

Phil
08-12-2014, 03:45 PM
Am I wrong in expecting these presentations to be at the siggraph event?
I turned up wandered around the exhibition hall, hung around the autodesk showcase area (just in case the lightwave showcase area was somewhere near), asked at the information desk - nothing.
Is there any lightwave presence at all at this years siggraph? if so where ?

No, there isn't. That was established some time ago, I think.

Tranimatronic
08-12-2014, 04:40 PM
oh right.
I don't get the memo.

...and now I re-read the web page it says "LightWave SIGGRAPH 2014 Week Showcase" implying they are showcasing the week and not the event, and "We hope you enjoy the show! " means the web stream not the event either.

Even the year before last, Rob turned up and did something at a booth. Not even that this year.
Oh well ;)

lightscape
08-12-2014, 06:36 PM
With bundles, the LW3DG sets the best price they can on the upgrade and the full seat based on the cost split going to the bundled product. In this case, the bundled product is a full seat of Octane Render, and that seat has the same cost whether as part of a full seat bundle or an upgrade bundle. My guess would be that the $995 price is at least pretty close to making the upgrade bundle into a loss leader at LW3D's expense, if not actually there. Just my guess, though. I am not in the know or speaking in an official capacity on this topic.

Thanks Chuck! Glad to see NT people answering questions from time to time.




See if this makes the math any more pallatable.

Normal price
$1495 new (LW only)
$695 upgrade (LW only)

Siggraph Price
$1595 with Octane2 (normally $586)
$995 upgrade with Octane2

$995 split in half is $497.50. So you can call that $497.50 for LW and $497.50 for Octane. A discount on each.
You could call that $586 for Octane and $409 for the LW upgrade. (40% discount on LW.)
Or you could call it $695 for LW and Octane for $300. (48% discount on Octane.)


Hope this helps.

Not really more pallatable. I think 795-895 was a more enticing price for upgrades. Octane is 586usd, tts all software download for upgraders.
NT gets 309usd for giving out a reg key and updating the user account. And the potential for stagnant users to upgrade.
Instead of buying the 995usd bundle I would just buy the octane ala carte from otoy which is what I really need saving me almost 500 bucks.


For new users 1695usd is a good deal with lightwave and octane. They essentially paid only 100usd for octane. No doubt that is a good deal and they get a new shiny dongle and stuff. Or are the dongles not given out anymore and manuals are just downloads, too?

wesleycorgi
08-12-2014, 07:44 PM
I enjoyed the two new tutes, promo videos, and magazine. My wish would be that LW3DG would do this sort of effort (a virtual tradeshow -ish) at least once a quarter.

I'm still thumbing through the magazine, but I don't think I saw any new tutes on Nevron nor ChronoSculpt (that would have been nice).

littlewaves
08-13-2014, 03:42 AM
I enjoyed the two new tutes

The William Vaughan one isn't so new sadly. It's from March last year. (http://pushingpoints.com/v2/2013/03/18/fixing-symmetry-in-lw/) (video link here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5VjIhaFJTxed295Vk1uQnJVaXc/edit?usp=sharing)) They just cropped off the top of the screen which would have shown he was working in LW11.5 and slapped a new title card on the front. Correct me if I'm wrong NT?

I'm assuming today's WV tute will be a facelift of this one also from March '13 (http://pushingpoints.com/v2/2013/03/24/creating-holes-in-a-subd-mesh/)

raw-m
08-13-2014, 04:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49Aq3jP8p1s.

That looks fantastic. No Mac version or I'd get it in a heartbeat :foreheads

alexs3d
08-13-2014, 04:41 AM
hm, thatīs a litte bit disappointing that they uses old tuts, maybe the time was too shoort ;( , but the lightpainting video and the other were really cool...


The William Vaughan one isn't so new sadly. It's from March last year. (http://pushingpoints.com/v2/2013/03/18/fixing-symmetry-in-lw/) (video link here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5VjIhaFJTxed295Vk1uQnJVaXc/edit?usp=sharing)) They just cropped off the top of the screen which would have shown he was working in LW11.5 and slapped a new title card on the front. Correct me if I'm wrong NT?

I'm assuming today's WV tute will be a facelift of this one also from March '13 (http://pushingpoints.com/v2/2013/03/24/creating-holes-in-a-subd-mesh/)

robertoortiz
08-13-2014, 06:30 AM
I am at the conference, and I would love to say hi to some fellow waver. Look for the short hispanic man wearing a bright red Nats cap

Luc_Feri
08-13-2014, 07:32 AM
For those not able to get the links working with the new lightwave magazine, right click on the image of the magazine cover and save as .pdf is there, simple!! No need to view inside browser, download to computer.

I must say the magazine is awesome, thankyou guys. Just when you think it's been very quiet, you get a super reassuring read to let you know lightwave is still producing the goods!

That light painting tutorial was very good indeed, nice way to utilise different styles to great effect.

CaptainMarlowe
08-13-2014, 08:13 AM
For those not able to get the links working with the new lightwave magazine, right click on the image of the magazine cover and save as .pdf is there, simple!! No need to view inside browser, download to computer.

I must say the magazine is awesome, thankyou guys. Just when you think it's been very quiet, you get a super reassuring read to let you know lightwave is still producing the goods!

That light painting tutorial was very good indeed, nice way to utilise different styles to great effect.

+1 I really enjoyed the light painting tutorial.

Igu4n4
08-13-2014, 08:34 PM
+1 I really enjoyed the light painting tutorial.

Glad you guys liked it. Hopefully I can do a few more on some other design based techniques soon.

- Steve.

wesleycorgi
08-13-2014, 10:30 PM
hm, thatīs a litte bit disappointing that they uses old tuts, maybe the time was too shoort ;( , but the lightpainting video and the other were really cool...

They solicited folks a couple of months ago, so it makes sense that some are older. I didn't see William's videos previously, so new to me!

Lewis
08-13-2014, 11:09 PM
Great work Steve, really nice idea/tutorial :).

Luc_Feri
08-14-2014, 12:23 PM
Glad you guys liked it. Hopefully I can do a few more on some other design based techniques soon.

- Steve.

That would be great. I presume with the lights being cloned your system and VPR would still be pretty swift? What is it like come render time with 60 point lights?

Chuck
08-14-2014, 02:22 PM
Not really more pallatable. I think 795-895 was a more enticing price for upgrades. Octane is 586usd, tts all software download for upgraders.
NT gets 309usd for giving out a reg key and updating the user account. And the potential for stagnant users to upgrade.
Instead of buying the 995usd bundle I would just buy the octane ala carte from otoy which is what I really need saving me almost 500 bucks.


For new users 1695usd is a good deal with lightwave and octane. They essentially paid only 100usd for octane. No doubt that is a good deal and they get a new shiny dongle and stuff. Or are the dongles not given out anymore and manuals are just downloads, too?

Your pricing expectations are unrealistic. Regarding the price of a full seat bundle as paying full price for LightWave and $100 for Octane is incorrectly assessing the situation.

In the past there have been bundles that were at LightWave's existing price. The case is that the revenue is being split however, so that NewTek gets substantially less revenue than it normally would, and the manufacturer of the partner product gets some reasonable portion of the revenue they would normally get for a sale.

That the price of the Bundle had to be higher than LightWave's normal full seat price tells the story. If the revenue split does not allow for the full seat price to be maintained, then it is only logical that the upgrade price is going to be affected to a much greater extent.

A financial assertion is not logical if it is not taking into account all of the financial facts involved. It does not follow that because the bundle could be done for a full seat by adding only $100 that this had anything to do with the actual cost of the Octane product within the bundle, nor that the upgrade could have also been priced just by adding $100 to the regular price. Pricing can only be set within reasonable parameters of the cost of goods involved.

And NewTek is not merely "giving out a reg key and updating the user account." The leap in capabilities even from 10.0 is incredible, let alone from any earlier version. Those advances represent years of work on the part of the development team.

But yes, if you don't happen to need all those advances, and just want Octane, by all means buy Octane. But for anyone who wants to step up from a 10.0 or earlier version of LightWave plus get Octane, the upgrade bundle is an incredible deal, that gains physics and instancing capabilities that alone would be worth the price.

Snosrap
08-14-2014, 02:40 PM
Yep - for those that have not upgraded from 9.6 this is a great deal! ----Provided you've got a [email protected] video card. :)

Igu4n4
08-14-2014, 05:51 PM
That would be great. I presume with the lights being cloned your system and VPR would still be pretty swift? What is it like come render time with 60 point lights?

I created this and samsara images as poster print pieces. (I talked about then in a showcase piece (https://www.lightwave3d.com/news/article/artist-spotlight-steve-mcardle/) earlier this year, although the interviewer was a little over zealous with the number of lights I used), so they were pretty big. And because I wanted hard edges to things I used point lights which render much faster than area or spherical. I don't remember the exact times but it wasn't anything that I felt was out if order.

I have another tutorial on design based 3d work coming up in 3dArtist in a few months. I'll post a synopsis when it's up. It will be along the lines of this sort of look I did in another image here (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=713323608690537&substory_index=0&id=564481996908033)...

m.d.
08-14-2014, 05:56 PM
I have another tutorial on design based 3d work coming up in 3dArtist in a few months. I'll post a synopsis when it's up. It will be along the lines of this sort of look I did in another image here (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=713323608690537&substory_index=0&id=564481996908033)...

nice....I like that style, a little retro

Luc_Feri
08-15-2014, 07:12 AM
I created this and samsara images as poster print pieces. (I talked about then in a showcase piece (https://www.lightwave3d.com/news/article/artist-spotlight-steve-mcardle/) earlier this year, although the interviewer was a little over zealous with the number of lights I used), so they were pretty big. And because I wanted hard edges to things I used point lights which render much faster than area or spherical. I don't remember the exact times but it wasn't anything that I felt was out if order.

I have another tutorial on design based 3d work coming up in 3dArtist in a few months. I'll post a synopsis when it's up. It will be along the lines of this sort of look I did in another image here (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=713323608690537&substory_index=0&id=564481996908033)...


That is a great article, I did read it a while ago so it was nice to see a small video tutorial of you putting it together. Nice work!!

Ryan Roye
08-15-2014, 07:36 AM
For those curious about Octane, a good GPU really makes the difference.

This part of a video review I did compares side-by-side the difference between a 650TI and a 780TI, this demonstrates visually just how important getting the right GPU is:

http://youtu.be/hAw3Qvk85ag?t=1m58s

prometheus
08-15-2014, 10:34 AM
I created this and samsara images as poster print pieces. (I talked about then in a showcase piece (https://www.lightwave3d.com/news/article/artist-spotlight-steve-mcardle/) earlier this year, although the interviewer was a little over zealous with the number of lights I used), so they were pretty big. And because I wanted hard edges to things I used point lights which render much faster than area or spherical. I don't remember the exact times but it wasn't anything that I felt was out if order.

I have another tutorial on design based 3d work coming up in 3dArtist in a few months. I'll post a synopsis when it's up. It will be along the lines of this sort of look I did in another image here (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=713323608690537&substory_index=0&id=564481996908033)...


Just lovely stuff you got:thumbsup:

jeric_synergy
08-15-2014, 11:35 AM
Glad you guys liked it. Hopefully I can do a few more on some other design based techniques soon.

- Steve.

Got the PDF open right now, on my microscopic netbook.... what page is that on? It's not under the 3 'official' tutorials, is it?

lightscape
08-15-2014, 09:08 PM
But for anyone who wants to step up from a 10.0 or earlier version of LightWave plus get Octane, the upgrade bundle is an incredible deal

Ok.

But the problem NOW with this lightwave bundle is that anyone who is on charter/post charter membership will have to forfeit their guaranteed 395 or 495usd upgrade for the next 4 version of lightwave. I'm sure you're unaware of this since Lightwave3d group is now handing everything lightwave.

So I have a choice now to upgrade one of my lightwave license to 11 and get the octane at less cost (300usd) but then lose all my guaranteed 495usd upgrades.
Thats 495usd x 4 = 1980usd, a possible saving of 800usd from the regular upgrades 695usd x 4 = 2780usd

So I save 300usd on this bundle but lose 800usd on future upgrades. If newtek decides to raise upgrade prices then its more than 800usd lost because 495usd is guaranteed whether upgrade prices are changed.

To me that just seems customer unfriendly. Did Rob Powers decide on this? DId I talk with the right customer service?
Lets help each other here newtek. Someone wants to upgrade one of their license but to lose ALL post charter discount seems really odd.

lightscape
08-16-2014, 03:14 AM
Has anyone who was an HC charter/post charter member get this lw octane bundle and was advised they would lose their membership and the guaranteed 395/495 usd upgrades in the future?

rustythe1
08-16-2014, 03:48 AM
but if you are a charter member why would you need the bundle, surely it will be cheaper to just buy octane and keep your upgrade 395 plus 586 = 981, and if you are a Charter member would that not mean you had already had to of upgraded LW or lose your membership?

raw-m
08-16-2014, 05:04 AM
But for anyone who wants to step up from a 10.0 or earlier version of LightWave plus get Octane, the upgrade bundle is an incredible deal, that gains physics and instancing capabilities that alone would be worth the price.
...unless you're a Mac user. No Octane Render for LW for us :oye:. Starting to think we might smell, or something....

lightscape
08-16-2014, 05:07 AM
but if you are a charter member why would you need the bundle, surely it will be cheaper to just buy octane and keep your upgrade 395 plus 586 = 981, and if you are a Charter member would that not mean you had already had to of upgraded LW or lose your membership?

Exactly. I dont know if there was enough thought put into this bundle.

For me its post charter so upgrade is 495usd every time. I could buy for 495usd and buy octane set for 585usd totalling 1080usd. Not bad. But I don't lose the guaranteed 495usd for the next lw upgrades in the future.

Maybe they are targetting only people who have lightwave 9 and below. Why would any charter member buy this upgrade bundle? It wouldn't work out for charter members.

jwiede
08-16-2014, 03:37 PM
...unless you're a Mac user. No Octane Render for LW for us :oye:. Starting to think we might smell, or something....

Which makes no sense, as there is a V2 Octane for Mac, V2 Octane-for-LW plugin for Mac, and LW11 for Mac. So then why no bundle for Mac?

(edit) I already have LW11, so am not interested personally anyway, just found it odd that all products are available for Mac, yet the bundle is only for Windows.

raw-m
08-16-2014, 03:41 PM
https://render.otoy.com/shop/lightwave_plugin.php

No Mac version at all for Octane V2. Very disappointing or I would already have a copy!

Vong
08-16-2014, 03:47 PM
Let's be clear as mud here... There is an Octane V2 for Mac, but there is not an Octane-for-LW plugin for Mac. Thus the only viable bundle option is for Windows.

jwiede
08-16-2014, 04:11 PM
Let's be clear as mud here... There is an Octane V2 for Mac, but there is not an Octane-for-LW plugin for Mac. Thus the only viable bundle option is for Windows.

Not sure who's telling you that, but...

123676

And there is a download, and it's a plugin (with version of 2.0.10) + menu + etc. Seems pretty real.

juanjgon
08-16-2014, 04:25 PM
Yes, there is a full featured OSX Octane 2.0 for LightWave plugin, you can download the demo or buy it like the Windows version. The Mac plugin has been used in production without problems. The same Octane plugin license works for both Windows and Mac systems.

-Juanjo

juanjgon
08-16-2014, 04:27 PM
https://render.otoy.com/shop/lightwave_plugin.php

No Mac version at all for Octane V2. Very disappointing or I would already have a copy!

Believe me, there is a Mac Octane 2.0 for Lightwave plugin, why do you think that there isn't a OSX version? ... it is available for download as demo, or in the costumers page if you have the plugin license.

-Juanjo

jwiede
08-16-2014, 04:33 PM
Yes, there is a full featured OSX Octane 2.0 for LightWave plugin, you can download the demo or buy it like the Windows version. The Mac plugin has been used in production without problems. The same Octane plugin license works for both Windows and Mac systems.

Thanks Juan, both for the confirmation, and all the hard work on the plugins!

Vong
08-16-2014, 04:34 PM
Because when you're looking at their website in the shop, it doesn't list an OSX version...

123677

Now look at the listing for MODO :

123678

That first image is from the link that raw-m posted. For anyone looking for an OSX version, there doesn't appear to be one. I even went so far as to test to the system to see if it asked me for a Windows or Mac version and not once was I asked. So again, as far as Mac users are concerned, there is no Octane 2.0 plugin for LW.

This now makes you wonder why LW3DG isn't offering a Mac version.

juanjgon
08-16-2014, 04:41 PM
Because when you're looking at their website in the shop, it doesn't list an OSX version...

123677

Now look at the listing for MODO :

123678

Oppps ... yes, sorry, the OSX version is missing in this page, I will write to the Otoy team to fix it.

The Octane 2.0 for Lightwave OSX is available as demo or final commercial versions for at least OSX 10.8 and 10.9

-Juanjo

Vong
08-16-2014, 04:47 PM
Glad to see that it was an oversight.

Octane looks awesome, I just don't see myself using it. Even if I did, it'd probably be the MODO version, since I don't use LW in production anymore.

CaptainMarlowe
08-17-2014, 12:00 AM
Yet it doesn't explain why the bundle isn't available for mac users. A word from LW3DG here would be appreciated.
This said, I already have LW11 since the very beginning, so the bundle doesn't concern me either, but letting mac users aside is kind of annoying.

raw-m
08-17-2014, 02:41 AM
Oppps ... yes, sorry, the OSX version is missing in this page, I will write to the Otoy team to fix it.

The Octane 2.0 for Lightwave OSX is available as demo or final commercial versions for at least OSX 10.8 and 10.9

-Juanjo

Great news!