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shrox
06-16-2014, 06:28 PM
So, let's say serendipity favors you and dumps a dream job from your childhood in your lap. It's well with in what you can do, and EVERYONE IN THE WORLD will see it.

How much to charge? It's about 15 minutes of various animations for a special HDTV broadcast.

By the way, my hands are doing a tiny bit better, although I am literally gritting my teeth to the point they chipped. If I get this gig, I'll be able to fix my teeth too!

hazmat777
06-16-2014, 07:09 PM
Glad your hands are better!

I guess some more info would be helpful for a response, but you are probably not at liberty to reveal too much.

My questions would be is there any character animation involved, are you doing the "camera" work and are you comfortable with the storyboards (assuming they showed you them) ?

jeric_synergy
06-16-2014, 07:31 PM
Charge your happy rate, then add 30% because they will put you thru the wringer.

hazmat777
06-16-2014, 07:56 PM
Charge your happy rate, then add 30% because they will put you thru the wringer.


Great funny response :) I once had a teacher who said to always write down (record) word for word what the animation supervisor wanted changed. That way you had a record if things "turned South". Ironic that she told me to speed up a character 2x and then said it didn't look right ! Got to let that go, but it's tough to sometimes looking back.

shrox
06-16-2014, 08:06 PM
It's going to be on FOX, but they are not producing it. I don't want to low ball myself, I used to have a recruiter or my then wife to do the deal making. I'm scared!

The style is kind of like this and will involve volumetics. I want it to look as nice as possible. I've got GI flicking out of the way, but nice HVs still kill my machine.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2C3CZEv968

danielkaiser
06-16-2014, 09:18 PM
At least 30-40 grand negotiate from there, get at least 1/3 to 1/2 up front if they're pros they won't have a problem with the pre production cost, use some of that to build your self a new machine. get every thing in writing. previs the **** out of it, get approval for all stages. take lots of napps, get thee to a dispensary, did I say take lots of napps?

shrox
06-16-2014, 09:30 PM
At least 30-40 grand negotiate from there, get at least 1/3 to 1/2 up front if they're pros they won't have a problem with the pre production cost, use some of that to build your self a new machine. get every thing in writing. previs the **** out of it, get approval for all stages. take lots of napps, get thee to a dispensary, did I say take lots of napps?

Verily I will heed your advisement. Thee doth speak wisely.

spherical
06-16-2014, 11:26 PM
Get yourself a copy of the Graphic Artists Guild's Handbook: Pricing & Ethical Guidelines (https://graphicartistsguild.org/handbook).

shrox
06-16-2014, 11:40 PM
Get yourself a copy of the Graphic Artists Guild's Handbook: Pricing & Ethical Guidelines (https://graphicartistsguild.org/handbook).

I have that, but it's over 5 years old.

spherical
06-16-2014, 11:57 PM
Get a new one.

shrox
06-16-2014, 11:58 PM
Get a new one.

Yes.

jeric_synergy
06-17-2014, 08:25 AM
I have that, but it's over 5 years old.

Good point: Ethics v2.2 is a whole new thing. ;)

Shnoze Shmon
06-21-2014, 02:04 PM
What about the other two books in this bundle? Worth it?

http://www.amazon.com/Graphic-Artists-Handbook-Pricing-Guidelines/dp/0932102166

Shnoze Shmon
06-23-2014, 05:30 PM
It's apparent that the book Graphic Artist's Guild Handbook of Pricing and Ethical Guidelines is likely as essential as some have indicated in this thread so I intend to get it.

However, while looking this up on Amazon 2 books displayed as "also bought" do appear like they might be just as relevant.

The books are:

The Ultimate Guide to Running a Successful Freelance Business http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Inc-Ultimate-Successful-Freelance/dp/0811871614/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_y/178-4158273-2548461

Business and Legal Forms for Graphic Designers http://www.amazon.com/Business-Legal-Forms-Graphic-Designers/dp/1621532496/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_z/178-4158273-2548461

Does anybody have knowledge of these books? Or perhaps know of a more valuable resource covering the same information? I'd really like to know.

Davewriter
06-23-2014, 07:43 PM
Legal and $ stuff aside... oh, pretty pictures!
Good stuff sir! Love the twin gyro.

OlaHaldor
06-23-2014, 11:51 PM
The style is kind of like this and will involve volumetics. I want it to look as nice as possible. I've got GI flicking out of the way, but nice HVs still kill my machine.

If it's the "HV" style, I can't help you. But if you're going to have volumetric flame and smoke, TurbulenceFD should fit nicely in your budget, reading what others suggest. It's a fun tool to play with, and can do incredible things in a short amount of time.