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fazi69
04-12-2014, 03:48 AM
Interesting but in Polish. Maybe ask this guy for English subtitles ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP9a-7drztE

MarcusM
04-12-2014, 04:36 AM
Thanks for link! It's very well done and interesting. For sure there should be subtitles in EN for wider audience :)

rcallicotte
04-12-2014, 05:30 PM
Thanks this is really cool and I remember what a big deal this was.

geo_n
04-12-2014, 08:54 PM
Wow cool to see this kind of videos.

shrox
04-12-2014, 10:08 PM
How did we ever work in such a tiny screen?

hazmat777
04-13-2014, 09:11 AM
Although this started as a LW thread, I thought I'd throw this into the mix since it was the first 3D program I worked with.

http://doudoroff.com/atari/cad3d.html

stone
04-13-2014, 01:55 PM
quite a few links, videos and screenshots from lightwave and most the other relevant programs.
https://sites.google.com/site/3dtimeline/
also be sure to look at http://lightwiki.com/wiki/LightWave_History

Ztreem
04-13-2014, 05:32 PM
quite a few links, videos and screenshots from lightwave and most the other relevant programs.
https://sites.google.com/site/3dtimeline/
also be sure to look at http://lightwiki.com/wiki/LightWave_History

Nice timeline for 3d apps, but it's full with mistakes. I know for sure that maya 1.0 was released before 2003 and lightwave 6 was not released 2004. This makes it hard to believe that any of the information is correct.

stone
04-16-2014, 06:28 AM
Nice timeline for 3d apps, but it's full with mistakes. I know for sure that maya 1.0 was released before 2003 and lightwave 6 was not released 2004. This makes it hard to believe that any of the information is correct.

uhm, according to the timeline maya 1.0 was released feb 1998 and lightwave 6.0 in 1999 ...

//edit
looks like a browser formatting issue. pretty sad for a page that only uses simple tables.

Ztreem
04-16-2014, 06:37 AM
uhm, according to the timeline maya 1.0 was released feb 1998 and lightwave 6.0 in 1999 ...

Looks ok here at my computer, but when I looked at it from my phone it looked wrong maybe the site is not compatible with phones. All good. :thumbsup:

Danner
04-16-2014, 07:29 AM
It seems acurate, but incomplete, no mention of Topaz wich was very popular back in the 90s, or Strata, and a very brief mention of TDI (only about it merging). Showing my age here.. :o

prometheus
04-16-2014, 07:55 AM
well..I think I tested a copy of true space 1992, and also imagine,

As far as as the UI looks for lightwave during the years, I think Ivé always liked best how the 7 version looked like with itīs gradient UI, and looks of the highlighted selection/text.

beverins
04-16-2014, 08:03 AM
Nice site, too bad it misses some other big names... Infini-D... Caligari / Truespace... Form-Z... Vue ... Poser.. Blender... Houdini... Though to be sure, there's just too many to track, and you might as well go to the wikipedia page and edit that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_3D_computer_graphics_software

adrian
04-16-2014, 08:51 AM
I remember using TrueSpace from 1998-2001 at which point I converted to LW. My first version of LW was 6.5 which had just been released if I remember correctly.

samscudder
04-16-2014, 12:56 PM
Let's see... which ones have I used?

Turbo Silver, Imagine, Graphics Factory GF-50 (how many have heard of that?), 3DStudioR4, LightWave, Truespace, Maya, and back to LightWave again. On Amiga, GVG, Silicon Graphics, PC and Apple hardware.

I'm getting old...

Anybody remember Fauve Matisse paint program?

shrox
04-16-2014, 01:33 PM
The very first 3d program I used was Zing3D. Like 1991 or something, Then 3D Studio DOS:

121473

Again, how did we work in such tiny screen estate?

Ztreem
04-16-2014, 02:24 PM
If I remember it right I started with Imagine then I used various 3d apps, one odd one called Tornado3D on the Amiga. The first Lightwave version I used was 5.5.

John Jordan
04-16-2014, 05:33 PM
Sure do. I still have Fauve Matisse but don't use it. Came with some video capture device Kiki Stockhammer used to promote. Ah, back in the day...

COBRASoft
04-16-2014, 06:26 PM
Nobody used Cinema on Amiga back in the days? I've tried Imagine, Cinema and ended up with LightWave :).

stone
04-16-2014, 08:52 PM
Nobody used Cinema on Amiga back in the days? I've tried Imagine, Cinema and ended up with LightWave :).

I used imagine 2 and 4. real3d and finally cinema4d all from amiga format and cu amiga coverdisks. I only switched to lightwave when I got my first pc in 2001, simply due to lightwave always being the shining star in all the amiga magazine reviews.

cinema4d was really good and had a great look and integration with the amiga workbench.

Snosrap
04-16-2014, 09:35 PM
Nobody used Cinema on Amiga back in the days? I've tried Imagine, Cinema and ended up with LightWave :).

How about Caligari24?

AmigaNewTek
04-17-2014, 12:24 AM
A very nostalgic thread. Look at my username. I still use NG Amiga today. The new AmigaOne costs a little too much, but it's a very pleasure to use. New Models are on the way. Btw, Lightwave it's perfectly usable on this machine using the petunia jit translator.

P.S.

The image on my avatar is the big FAT AGNUS

chikega
04-17-2014, 10:28 AM
My first exposure to 3d was in 1991 in medical illustration school. The medical school just purchased a $30,000 SGI system and spent $7,500 for Alias Poweranimator. We, as students, had very limited time with the computer and software. It was considered too expensive for tinkering by art students. So, I picked up a copy of Imagine 3d and the rest is history.

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Mr_Q
04-17-2014, 10:52 AM
The problem is that Newtek still thinks it's 1994. Note, not the Lightwave Group and Rob, but NEWTEK.

SBowie
04-17-2014, 02:10 PM
The problem is that Newtek still thinks it's 1994. Note, not the Lightwave Group and Rob, but NEWTEK.Something less vague would be ... less vague, Kevin. ;)

BeeVee
04-17-2014, 05:37 PM
I think my earliest 3D experiences were Cyber Studio CAD-3D on the Atari ST and Sculpt3D on the Amiga, although I knew people using CAM machinery.

B
(Didn't realise that Dan Silva was responsible for 3D Studio! He wrote Deluxe Paint for Electronic Arts)

shrox
04-17-2014, 05:40 PM
I think my earliest 3D experiences were Cyber Studio CAD-3D on the Atari ST and Sculpt3D on the Amiga, although I knew people using CAM machinery.

B
(Didn't realise that Dan Silva was responsible for 3D Studio! He wrote Deluxe Paint for Electronic Arts)

DP3 was too cool.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOowBnuehNc

Megalodon2.0
04-17-2014, 05:42 PM
How about Caligari24?

Yeah, that was on the Amiga, correct?

Then they created trueSpace1 - in either '95 or '96 - I bought it in '96 and started my 3D learning there. Wanted Lightwave years before but couldn't afford it.

SBowie
04-17-2014, 06:53 PM
Wow, KaraFonts, what a trip down memory lane.

shrox
04-17-2014, 08:19 PM
Wow, KaraFonts, what a trip down memory lane.

I used that on some video poker machines I was making for a casino in Serbia in 1990 or so. Eventually all the machines were destroyed when the casino was shelled and blown up.

prometheus
04-17-2014, 08:58 PM
How about Caligari24?

that was the corporation name and also the first versions right? later also truespace which was one of the first I used, to bad they didnīt take my advice and sorted their icon mess:) it would have have been okay by now..thatīs how
important my suggestions are (what an ego) :)

it had some fun dynamics with different material types, nurbs, and some nice openGL display and shaders that lightwave up til today donīt have.

I wonder how the skeleton and ik characters worked..I liked the openGL display on that..Lightwaves display modes of bones and object I am not that fond of.
and it had interactive physics characters, which no one else had..wonder how that worked. and photo realistic workspace? what was that which no other software had either:) probably just good directX shader? with light shadow in the viewport in realtime etc..
http://www.caligari.us/Products/trueSpace/tS75/Brochure/characters.asp?Cate=Bcharacters

compare chart around 2008..
http://www.caligari.us/Products/trueSpace/tS75/Brochure/Comparison_tables.asp?Cate=BProducts&SubCate=ComparisonTables

Snosrap
04-17-2014, 09:41 PM
Yeah, that was on the Amiga, correct?

Then they created trueSpace1 - in either '95 or '96 - I bought it in '96 and started my 3D learning there. Wanted Lightwave years before but couldn't afford it.


that was the corporation name and also the first versions right? later also truespace which was one of the first I used, to bad they didnīt take my advice and sorted their icon mess:) it would have have been okay by now..thatīs how
important my suggestions are (what an ego) :)

Yep - on the Amiga. The name of the company at that time was Octree Software, they had Caligari1, Caligari2 and Caligari Broadcast. Caligari 24 was their lower cost version for the new Amigas with their advanced HAM modes (1200 & 4000). I think I paid $199 for Caligari 24. About a year later my brother picked up a copy of Imagine 1.0 at flea market for like $5.00 and registered the darn thing and about 2 months later got a notice he could upgrade to v.3. He really had no interest in 3D so I gave him the $99 for the upgrade and that's how I got into Imagine. I even upgraded to the PC version when it came out and eventually jumped over to Inspire3D and finally LW and Modo.