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shrox
02-23-2014, 02:08 PM
It's very sad, and makes me feel awkward about how I have praised them in the past.

50one
02-23-2014, 02:37 PM
I cannot imagine bigger punishment than "unfriending" on Facebook.

Make him suffer!

shrox
02-23-2014, 03:15 PM
I cannot imagine bigger punishment than "unfriending" on Facebook.

Make him suffer!

It's just sad when you realize an aspect you just can't tolerate of a person.

50one
02-23-2014, 03:32 PM
It's just sad when you realize an aspect you just can't tolerate of a person.


That's life bro. :thumbsup:Cheer up!

djwaterman
02-23-2014, 05:58 PM
Learn to tolerate what ever it is and friend them back.

shrox
02-23-2014, 07:07 PM
Learn to tolerate what ever it is and friend them back.

I can not.

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/vpIvJBaphy8/maxresdefault.jpg

Sekhar
02-23-2014, 07:37 PM
Point to ponder: Are friends on Facebook really friends?

jasonwestmas
02-23-2014, 08:57 PM
I'm quite tired of the internet as my main form of communication. :) I wouldn't take these issues too seriously.

spherical
02-23-2014, 09:31 PM
I can not. (Be This Guy.)

Ummmm. I'll not jump to a conclusion. Can you clarify, please?

pinkmouse
02-24-2014, 02:44 AM
Just go out for a beer and a curry with your real friends and forget about it. You know, the ones who'll help you fix your car, or lend you a tenner. :)

50one
02-24-2014, 02:51 AM
Just go out for a beer and a curry with your real friends and forget about it. You know, the one's who'll help you fix your car, or lend you a tenner. :)

I have to agree, don't have facebook account and got a small circle of friends i think I can rely on, most of the folks in Da interwebz are a bunch of weirdos, even in here:P

bazsa73
02-24-2014, 03:03 AM
Let's unfriend!

dickbill
02-24-2014, 09:04 AM
Like other here, I'll suggest to take it easy on Facebook, Twitters and other so-called 'social media' for reasons exposed above.

There may be another reason, but this reason depends upon our understanding of Life and Consciousness in general.
Here it is: researchers involved in Mind and Psy phenomena, like Dean Radin and Rupert Sheldrake, especially the later, have suggested that Mind communication (call it telepathy if you want) could be an emerging capability.
Stop reading here if you want, but this hypothesis actually makes some sense from the Biological Evolution point of view.
Biologically modern man appeared about 200 000 years ago in Africa, however without any language and symbolic thinking, as suggested by tools not different from those of homo Erectus.
Then 70 000 years ago, a first revolution occurred: some tools and practice suggest that symbolic thinking finally came to Mankind.
The next Evolutionary step was the apparition of Language. This also show that human brains were constantly evolving, either in hardware or software, while the rest of the body evolved much slower.
What would be the next step?
Predictively, bodily physiology will continue to evolve at the same pace, mostly as an adaptation to modern life. Regarding our Minds however, the next logical step could be an increase in communication capabilities in line with the apparition of symbolic language and thinking, perhaps as an improvement in intuitive behavior, or perhaps within a form of communication freed of the burden to use spoken or written language as the only form of information exchange.
Regarding Intuition, Sheldrake made the point that if that was true, any living creature with that ability would have an evolutionary advantage over a creature without it and therefore, providing the ability would be passed on as a learned behavior to the offspring, the ability should spread in the population.
I think it is true also of any higher form of communication that would complement, or add to, spoken language. That is however, providing that humankind does not enter into practices that would modify the Evolutionary Trend, to the point to slow down, or even block that trend.
Lamarck (Jean-Baptiste Pierre Antoine de Monet, chevalier de Lamarck) put it simply: organs and functions that are not used will atrophy and regress during Evolution, and perhaps disappear.
Now ask yourself where stand all these 'social media' within the Evolutionary Trend for more symbolic thinking, language, and....more. They apparently render obsolete and unnecessary any superior form of communication. They can transmit simple concepts extremely fast.: 'How R U LOL?'. However, to express complex thinking, they are no better than the 'Click language' of Bushmen. My belief is that they stand against the Evolutionary Trend, they add entropy in Evolution. I am convinced that an excessive use of it may deprive Humankind of the next step in consciousness.
Maybe it will be necessary to have a 'no social media day'. Without those loud speakers on, we may start to hear some whispering voices that actually make sense.

erikals
02-24-2014, 01:26 PM
Without those loud speakers on, we may start to hear some whispering voices that actually make sense.

:yoda: just use Smartness instead, telepathy ain't worth much if one doesn't understand how human minds work... telepathy / brainwaves is an interesting subject though.


and 10 years from now LightWave will be called BrainWave...

shrox
02-24-2014, 02:00 PM
They have revealed some "views contrary to mine" that are about as reconcilable as east is to west.

It's just disappointing, I probably should not have even mentioned it. It's is someone that is big in our industry, but it's not like we would ever have cause to meet in person anyway.

erikals
02-24-2014, 02:10 PM
if you go far enough east, you end up west...

disappointment is just a result of one own's false prediction though, if that's any comfort...

shrox
02-24-2014, 02:12 PM
if you go far enough east, you end up west...

That only works with north and south, your compass will change at a given point. Go east or west and your compass will never change. (It's just a metaphor, and does not take into account regional magnetic variations, anomalies, and pole flip scenarios.)

erikals
02-24-2014, 02:20 PM
talking global position... ;l

remember the second line in post #16 though, might help you later on...

Megalodon2.0
02-24-2014, 02:25 PM
They have revealed some "views contrary to mine" that are about as reconcilable as east is to west.

It's just disappointing, I probably should not have even mentioned it. It's is someone that is big in our industry, but it's not like we would ever have cause to meet in person anyway.

I can easily understand that.

Many in my family are devout religious and it's often VERY difficult to reconcile that they are family AND have the antiquated views that they have. When their religion says to love one another, they take it to mean "yes, but not THAT kind of person." Oh well...

Sometimes you just have to smile and grind your teeth. ;)

erikals
02-24-2014, 02:47 PM
"yes, but not THAT kind of person"

too true... http://erikalstad.com/backup/misc.php_files/angel.gif


going back to the subject >
"It's sad when a professional you respect drives you to unfriend them on Facebook"

it's impossible for us to know though what side to take, hope you see that...

shrox
02-24-2014, 03:13 PM
"yes, but not THAT kind of person"

too true... http://erikalstad.com/backup/misc.php_files/angel.gif


going back to the subject >
"It's sad when a professional you respect drives you to unfriend them on Facebook"

it's impossible for us to know though what side to take, hope you see that...

I am not looking for "a side", just expressing a feeling that I would guess many have experienced at various points in their life.

shrox
02-24-2014, 03:15 PM
I can easily understand that.

Many in my family are devout religious and it's often VERY difficult to reconcile that they are family AND have the antiquated views that they have. When their religion says to love one another, they take it to mean "yes, but not THAT kind of person." Oh well...

Sometimes you just have to smile and grind your teeth. ;)

Yes, it's a "Group Z is bad, but not you, even though you are in group Z," kind of thing.

Danner
02-24-2014, 04:15 PM
I wish people would keep their views on: politics, religion, sport teams, supernatural, controversial rights etc.. away from social media. If I posted my views I'd have no friends.

Megalodon2.0
02-24-2014, 04:20 PM
Yes, it's a "Group Z is bad, but not you, even though you are in group Z," kind of thing.

Kind of reminds me of Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack...

"Oh this is the worst looking hat I ever saw... you buy a hat like this I bet ya get a free bowl of soup... oh... it looks good on you though..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmEV1d7RPvg

shrox
02-24-2014, 04:35 PM
Kind of reminds me of Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack...

"Oh this is the worst looking hat I ever saw... you buy a hat like this I bet ya get a free bowl of soup... oh... it looks good on you though..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmEV1d7RPvg

Oh, that does look good on you.

I wouldn't want to join any club that would admit a bore like me...MENSA comes to mind.

djwaterman
02-24-2014, 04:54 PM
Many famous people I admire have express political or social views contrary to mine, I still admire them and appreciate what they do. People are allowed to have different views to your own, plus even my own views can change, they are not fixed. It's pretty arrogant to assume everyone important or interesting is going to think like you do.

shrox
02-24-2014, 05:12 PM
Many famous people I admire have express political or social views contrary to mine, I still admire them and appreciate what they do. People are allowed to have different views to your own, plus even my own views can change, they are not fixed. It's pretty arrogant to assume everyone important or interesting is going to think like you do.

I should have just let it be.

Let's watch a clip from "The Young Ones"...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxA0a5G6ccg

jwiede
02-24-2014, 11:37 PM
It's just disappointing, I probably should not have even mentioned it.

You just found out Uncle Walt was a racist?

Seriously, though, why did you bring it up, if you didn't intend to describe the circumstances well enough to usefully discuss the issue? Clearly you wanted to announce your upset. Unfortunately, without giving us the context that led to your actions, it seems unlikely productive discussion can occur.

Still, admiring someone's professional / artistic skill, or accomplishments, is NOT the same as admiring their personality or beliefs. Walt Disney wasn't necessarily a great person (depending on your views), but that doesn't (and shouldn't) make his professional skills and accomplishments any less impressive or historically important.

shrox
02-25-2014, 12:06 AM
You just found out Uncle Walt was a racist?

Seriously, though, why did you bring it up, if you didn't intend to describe the circumstances well enough to usefully discuss the issue? Clearly you wanted to announce your upset. Unfortunately, without giving us the context that led to your actions, it seems unlikely productive discussion can occur.

Still, admiring someone's professional / artistic skill, or accomplishments, is NOT the same as admiring their personality or beliefs. Walt Disney wasn't necessarily a great person (depending on your views), but that doesn't (and shouldn't) make his professional skills and accomplishments any less impressive or historically important.

OK, a colleague posted something advocating that the ACA (Affordable Care Act) was absolutely no good for anyone. I replied that because of the ACA I had health care coverage for the first time in 5 years because I have a chronic preexisting condition. That lack of coverage really caused me to suffer at times. He responded by calling me a socialist leach and saying me and my like should just unfriend him. It's not spur of the moment, it's something I have seen developing over a few months, so I heeded his word.

Anybody that has read my posts knows how much I want to work.

It's just sad.

gordonrobb
02-25-2014, 12:28 AM
I rarely get into circular debates. All I would say is there are few parts of the world (yes there are some) where someones view, even of you, has an actual physical effect on you. Ditch him and move on, knowing that, in this particular case, for your particular circumstance, you are right. You have your reasons for feeling the way you do, just as he does.

Now do some 3D

:)

m.d.
02-25-2014, 12:36 AM
He responded by calling me a socialist leach and saying me and my like should just unfriend him. It's not spur of the moment, it's something I have seen developing over a few months, so I heeded his word.

Anybody that has read my posts knows how much I want to work.

It's just sad.

Ya that hurts.....even if I disagree with something like that I would never take that attitude with a friend....
I know how many times I have been wrong in the past...not to be too quick to judge.

djwaterman
02-25-2014, 01:15 AM
Ahh Facebook, bringing the world together.

jwiede
02-25-2014, 03:55 AM
I rarely get into circular debates. All I would say is there are few parts of the world (yes there are some) where someones view, even of you, has an actual physical effect on you. Ditch him and move on, knowing that, in this particular case, for your particular circumstance, you are right. You have your reasons for feeling the way you do, just as he does.

Agreed, in this case seems best to do what you've done, and leave it at that.

LW_Will
02-25-2014, 01:53 PM
I wish people would keep their views on: politics, religion, sport teams, supernatural, controversial rights etc.. away from social media. If I posted my views I'd have no friends.

Well... barring those subjects, what is there to be social about?

bazsa73
02-25-2014, 02:09 PM
never mind

rwhunt99
02-25-2014, 02:17 PM
It sounds like you were not left much choice, he made it clear how he felt without being tactful, so it is best to move on, not necessarily searching for people who feel exactly the same but do share most of the values you find important. Friends on Facebook is sometimes an oxymoron, however, I don't have a lot of them but they do involve people I care about and I am mostly a lurker and don't contribute much to the noise that is out there. The bottom line is, he was blunt and didn't fudge the facts much so you know where he stands, that is better than most people who prefer to backstab in the shadows. I wish you well and I know there are a lot of good people out there who share the same attitudes as you ;)

kadri
02-26-2014, 06:01 PM
...He responded by calling me a socialist leach and saying me and my like should just unfriend him. ...
That is not an response a human should give at all,Shrox.
Like others said i can look at a person and his work in general separately too mostly.
But anything good looking that he could make would look like garbage to me after that response.

Philbert
02-27-2014, 03:13 AM
People are still on facebook other than grandmas? Seems like everyone is moving to Google+.

prometheus
02-27-2014, 08:39 AM
I donīt think I will ever friend you or unfriend you on facebook shrox, since I never have used facebook and donīt think I will.
I might add you as a "friend in these forums though" since I think itīs enjoyable to discuss things with you and some topics.

The term friend over the net is a little to hyped though, how many of us really know each other etc...so what can we expect, I wouldnīt be surprised that if one were to hang around with someone here for real, you might find yourself..saying, ah that was the guy...and find yourself saying..well he had strange behaviour or completly different views on other things.

It sure takes some acceptance and tolerance from all of us ..when communicating with each other, If someone faces you with abusive comments and donīt try to communicate their opionions in a good way, then itīs not worth getting upset about, itīs sad..but drop it..it is wasted milk on the ground really...and especially if itīs really not a close friend you might be able to reconsile with.

Im glad though that the health insurance works better for you nowadays, I am all with you on that...I think:) hunting people that are sick or have health issues, reducing or stopping healt care acts.. and call them lazy or using the system... thatīs a sort of common political perception among maybe half of the swedish voters too I would say.
Shouldnīt say to much about that though..it will turn in to a political discussion not appropiate for these forums.

Michael

jeric_synergy
02-27-2014, 08:55 AM
People are still on facebook other than grandmas? Seems like everyone is moving to Google+.

;) That's a damnable lie!!!! :D

+++

It's probably just as well to isolate those with hateful attitudes: few adults are going to change much until some Movie Of The Week-type event convinces them that "hey, maybe hurting all these millions of people ISN'T a good idea! Who knew?"

GregMalick
02-27-2014, 03:37 PM
Even a half-way decent person would have felt compassion for your circumstances, Shrox.

This individual was clearly never a friend. You didn't know that.
You considered him a friend but then you learned otherwise and fixed the situation.
That's how it works.

At least you weren't married to the bastard....


120506

... or were you?

shrox
02-27-2014, 04:56 PM
I forgot to change my avatar title to the allegation, there it's fixed.

cresshead
02-27-2014, 05:39 PM
real friends don't do that, so you've not lost a friend but you are a little more wise from the experience most probably.

keep that chin up there's 7.5 billion people out there don't let 1 drag you down.

saranine
02-28-2014, 02:13 AM
I think that the 1960's hippie state of mind should apply: if you respect yourself then nobody else can ever disrespect you.

prometheus
02-28-2014, 08:08 AM
I think that the 1960's hippie state of mind should apply: if you respect yourself then nobody else can ever disrespect you.

sounds good, but doesnīt work in reality, you can be very respectful to yourself and a huge amount of others might respect you and you can be kind, a genius, a celebrity...
If some nut case decides to disrespect you, they will do so regardless...and might even attack and kill you for just being what you are, I think itīs the nature of how things
work.

Peace brother:) and Yeah..I think it should apply,but it doesnīt.

jasonwestmas
03-02-2014, 06:53 AM
The most respected people usually get killed or shot at, especially in the 60s.