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ArtGoblin
11-03-2013, 05:03 AM
Hi guys... I'm having a hard time trying to find information on how to thread a specific type of an old-school movie projector. It's the Keystone 16mm Silent Movie Projector K-160. What I'm basicly in need of is just to get an better idea of how to animate the film-strip/tape rolling around the correct wheels. I'm at a pre-production stage regarding an animated title-sequence with this beauty as the main actor :)

This is the best info I've found so far, but it doesn't help me much in finding out where to place and animate the tape/film-strip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY4Y6xaciGA
http://www.icecostore.com/servlet/the-995/Vintage-Keystone-K160-16mm/Detail

If anyone knows of a good place to search or knows where to find a diagram or a user manual or something... I'd appriciate it :)

JoePoe
11-03-2013, 07:04 AM
The film path is etched in the metal casing.

Give me a sec......

Like this...... I think.

JoePoe
11-03-2013, 07:32 AM
Yup....Here are two similar rear wheel setups that, for the most part confirm my sketch.

Both Keystone's:
http://members.chello.nl/a.wichmann/keys64pr.jpg
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Bottom right image (you will need to zoom in on this one)
http://members.chello.nl/a.wichmann/keystEproj.jpg

Strangely, though, they seem to contradict each other in feed wheel direction.... but I think the Youtube vid clears that up! :thumbsup:
(remember.... in that video, when the top wheel is powered... I believe the projector is in reverse. :hey:)

ArtGoblin
11-03-2013, 08:28 AM
Thanks a million :D I actually just came from a meeting with a colleague and we came to a similar conclusion, but now I'm a 100% sure.. this might be a trivial thing, since it probably won't be very noticeable in the animation, but I'd rather not have some expert pointing it out to me that I got it totally wrong after all the work is done

LW_Will
11-03-2013, 11:56 PM
It seems to me that the upper part of the film, where it is entering the gate, should be floppy. It should have some give with the gate being opened. That is the sound of the flapa-flapa from old projectors. The film should be closer and better behaved on the bottom loop.

That's what I remember of the old projectors from school.

ArtGoblin
01-08-2014, 08:02 AM
Again, thanks for all the help guys :) Finally this project is starting in production, here's the WIP: http://forums.newtek.com/showthread.php?139569-OldSchool-Projector-for-a-logo-Animation&p=1361872#post1361872