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deadline
11-16-2012, 05:35 PM
Hello, everyone! I am on the brink of buying Lightwave, and after using the demo version, thought I would ask if anyone can recommend any good learning materials. I am familiar with 3D modeling, have used Maya and Strata Design Pro 3D. Playing around with Lightwave has made me realize that the interface is far out of my experience. The value of good learning materials cannot be overstated. I would love to take some classes, but here in the wilds of Northeast Pennsylvania, such things are far away. Can anyone suggest good basic tutorials, books, DVDs and whatnot?

Thanks for any help!

Joe

nickdigital
11-16-2012, 05:56 PM
There was a thread that listed a lot of good resources but I couldn't find it. Perhaps a sticky should be made for this.

There's this
http://forums.newtek.com/showthread.php?77002-Hours-of-Free-LightWave-Training-%2824-Hours-%29

Doing a search on youtube will return a lot of hits. There are some users on the forum who have their own channel that contain a lot of good info.

When in doubt post to the forum.

Dexter2999
11-16-2012, 06:16 PM
Also try http://lightwiki.net/wiki/Tutorial_ideas

if you are buying learning materials
http://www.liberty3d.com/store/training/lightwave/
Good stuff on learning nodes there by both James Willmott and Rebel Hill (Craig Monins)

or good general training at
http://www.3dgarage.com/collections/newtek-lightwave-3d

when you are ready for Character Animation
http://www.rebelhill.net/html/rhr.html
also available through liberty3D

for an alternate Newtek also sells a DVD made by Lino Grandi which shows how to get into rigging quickly.

Also for free Cageman has a set of tutorials on working with EXRtrader and Janus with compositing. If you are serious about wanting the maximum flexibility in your renders these are a MUST WATCH. (Of course you will also need the plug ins...extra but well worth it.)
ftp://cageman.dyndns.org/
(lots of extra stuff as well)

Oh, and beyond training, you will want to get plug ins from Denis Pontonnier
http://dpont.pagesperso-orange.fr/main_en.htm
(donations appreciated but I don't think required?)

More tutorials
http://simplylightwave.com/


Hope this helps. Wish the forum search was working to help you more.

deadline
11-16-2012, 06:22 PM
Thanks, nickdigital and Dexter2999! You have given me a place to start. I searched Google and Youtube, and the number of links is huge. It was hard to sort it all.

Thanks!

deadline
11-16-2012, 06:25 PM
I saw on Amazon.com some books by Dan Ablan that look interesting. He seems to be quite knowledgable in a variety of software packages.

nickdigital
11-16-2012, 06:27 PM
I saw on Amazon.com some books by Dan Ablan that look interesting. He seems to be quite knowledgable in a variety of software packages.

Dan's books are a really good resource.

DrStrik9
11-16-2012, 09:46 PM
Welcome to the looney-bin. :D

stevenpalomino
11-17-2012, 01:16 PM
Dan is great. He's got some good training on his website. I think the most useful book for me has been this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Essential-LightWave-v9-Fastest-Easiest/dp/1598220241/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1353182924&sr=8-2&keywords=lightwave

It's from v9 but basically the major thing that's changed has been the unified sampling.. and you can easily get caught up with this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgNB9tZWUmM&feature=relmfu

And global illumination here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YFZ2av-BLg


Above all, the best resource is these forums. You won't find a better community of people that are willing to help (and respond so quickly) than this one. Post your works in progress images or settings and you'll get great critiques from industry professionals. Also, add this website to your bookmarks:
http://www.lwplugindb.com/

Lightwave uses a lot of plugins to get things done quicker. You don't NEED the plugins.. but many (if not all) people will tell you that they use plugins (and a lot of them).
Something that helped me out a lot as well was joining the modeling challenges (in the LW - Community section).

Hope this helps :)

Darth Mole
11-18-2012, 04:29 PM
I'm going to be the odd one out here. I don't think Dan's books are that great. He spends a lot of time just re-writing the manual and the projects aren't that thrilling. The manual itself is a good place to start - it could be better of course, but it's not terrible. Then I think you should just get stuck in and try and build something. Then light it. Then animate it. Look at the manual, cross reference it with stuff you find online or in YouTube vids, and come her and ask questions. The guys on this forum know way mor than Dan Ablan, I reckon.

Learning 3D is never going to be easy, and there will be tools in LW you never even find, let alone use. But teaching yourself is a great way to discover it, and by making mistakes and figuring it out, it'll stick in your head more. Following someone's painting-by-numbers tutorial will only get you so far.

Oh, and don't expect quick results either! But you will have fun - especially now us lot have spent the last decade helping to debug LW for you :-)

Cageman
11-18-2012, 05:17 PM
Also for free Cageman has a set of tutorials on working with EXRtrader and Janus with compositing. If you are serious about wanting the maximum flexibility in your renders these are a MUST WATCH. (Of course you will also need the plug ins...extra but well worth it.)
ftp://cageman.dyndns.org/
(lots of extra stuff as well)



Thanks for the plug!

Here is the correct login though, since it does need a username and password... ;)

Click here! (ftp://LightWave:[email protected]:21)




Oh, and beyond training, you will want to get plug ins from Denis Pontonnier
http://dpont.pagesperso-orange.fr/main_en.htm
(donations appreciated but I don't think required?)

Yes... his tools are free, you do not need to donate... but I think most people will, after they've noticed how extremely usefull they are in all kinds of situations! :)

alexs3d
11-19-2012, 12:54 AM
there is a new 11,5 training, but not available yet, http://www.3dgarage.com/collections/frontpage/products/lightwave-11-5-up-to-speed
i think it will be available soon when lw 11,5 is released

jeric_synergy
11-19-2012, 01:14 AM
I'll weigh in and say I think Dan Ablan's books are VERY worthwhile. They give specific tasks to help users get started, IME are well proof-read, and the included CD/DVDs contain extra material that is valuable in that, as I say, "software is a verb", and looking at static pix doesn't really give you the feel of seeing the action of someone using the software (any software).

About the only thing I don't like about them is the tendency for images to be on the pages AFTER whatever paragraph they illustrate. Over and over! WTF?

If you're some Galtean self-starter that never needs an assist, hey, go ahead and use the backwardsly-written manuals, good luck with that. But for mere mortals, Ablan's books are worthwhile starters. As someone else said about them, "Do all the tutorials, and you'll have a very firm grasp of LightWave fundamentals."

deadline
11-19-2012, 05:54 PM
Hey, everybody! Thanks for the welcome! You guys and gals have given me a great many resources to explore. I have officially bought Lightwave 11, and can't wait to get started. I have a pretty good basic background in 3D (if anyone would like to see some renders, just holler). Learning the tools and the Lightwave way of doing things is first, I suppose, as well as what plugins are out there. I am of the mind that any resource has some value, and sorting through it all is the real task.

Joe

Surrealist.
11-19-2012, 06:10 PM
Hi Joe, there is lots of stuff out there alright. William Vaughn's tuts have probably been mentioned, but you can google to find tuts he has put together.

I would say the first place to start for someone like you is the manual. You are already familiar with 3D, so it would be an easy go and all of the interface stuff will be explained. I highly recommend doing this as a first step. You will save lots of time fishing around for things that you can find right there in an organized order by category. (and thus weed out the things yo don't necessarily need to study now). This is what I did with LightWave and usually do in this order with every software I learn and it works well for me. From there, I usually then branch out and look for tutorials for the "undocumented" tips and tricks and other practical application of things I "already know" but had not thought of that way before or known exactly how to use.

What this will give you is a good solid base grounding in the software on which you can build further bits of useful knowledge.

My 2C.

Darth Mole
11-19-2012, 06:20 PM
All right, jeric, calm down. Just my opinion - no need to embolden yours to make it look right.

Snosrap
11-19-2012, 09:29 PM
Welcome deadine! Vist LW's Youtube channel for some decent stuff for folks new to LW. I think Cody Burke has some good tuts on the basic interface etc. on LW's channel.

erikals
11-20-2012, 12:36 AM
hi, posted some links here earlier >
http://tinyurl.com/7832bja

Philbert
11-20-2012, 11:30 AM
While I went to school for LightWave everything else I learned in the beginning was from Dan Ablan's Inside LightWave (7 at the time). I also did read a LOT of the manual. Actually I think the Web Help (from the Help menu) is even better than the manual as you can easily search for anything you want.

BTW Welcome to another Pennsylvanian.

deadline
11-20-2012, 08:08 PM
Hi, everybody! I think Surrealist has a good idea. I will go through the manual and see if I can get a primer on the very basics, like navigation and stuff. I would like some basic projects done so I can see a general approach to the basic concepts. One question that has been bugging me, is how can I extrude an edge? I have a tutorial DVD from Digital Tutors in which their approach to creating geometry is by starting with a quad poly and then extruding edges. Sorry for hijacking my own thread!

Joe

deadline
11-20-2012, 08:10 PM
Hi, Philbert. I will check out the web help too. I am in the Scranton area. You know, where the ZIP code is EIEIO.

Surrealist.
11-20-2012, 08:35 PM
Hi, everybody! I think Surrealist has a good idea. I will go through the manual and see if I can get a primer on the very basics, like navigation and stuff. I would like some basic projects done so I can see a general approach to the basic concepts. One question that has been bugging me, is how can I extrude an edge? I have a tutorial DVD from Digital Tutors in which their approach to creating geometry is by starting with a quad poly and then extruding edges. Sorry for hijacking my own thread!

Joe

Here is an old thread on the LightWave help installation process. You basically have to download it from your downloads page and install it. Then F1 will bring up the help file.

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=62891

At the bottom of the interface is a set of selection mode buttons for Polygon Edge and Points. In edge mode click on an edge to select it, and then "e" (Extender Plus found in the Multiply tab) on the keyboard to duplicate it followed by "t" to translate it. You can extrude in successive operations my simply hitting e again and translating with the move tool still invoked.

Good luck with your studies!

deadline
11-20-2012, 08:58 PM
Brilliant! Thanks, Surrealist.

jeric_synergy
11-20-2012, 11:09 PM
One question that has been bugging me, is how can I extrude an edge? I

Get into EDGE mode
Select an Edge
Hit EXTEND (my hotkey= e)
Using (for example) the MOVE tool (t), move the selected Edge. It'll leave the old Edge behind, you'll have a new quad.
WITHOUT dropping the MOVE tool, hit 'e' (or whatever) again. Move.

In this way you can Move, Extend, Move, Extend, to your heart's desire, with a minimum of keyboard interaction.

However, I prefer to use the ROVE TOOL, because that allows me to Move & Rotate with the same Tool. (I mapped the Rove Tool to "r".) If you keep the Rove Tool at the center of the selection, it's all very natural.

Also, make a hotkey for Edge Mode: I can't remember if it's native or not, but on my machine it's CTRL+E.

codyburke610
11-21-2012, 05:35 PM
Welcome Deadline!

Scranton eh, that's about 10 minutes from where I grew up, in Allentown!

Here is the beginner playlist of our Official LightWave YouTube channel. A great place to get started.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBscyc2_NuEA-emc2W5RTvMNpcgfosLYU&feature=plcp

Cheers,
-Cody-