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Tony3d
03-19-2012, 01:41 PM
I'm an Apple person. I own a dual quad Mac Pro, but the other day I ran across this. http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/workstations/z1_features.html#.T2eLTZgcqW4

This is something Apple should have come out with. If they can only get their heads out of the iPad long enough to see whats going on around them. I think Hp is off to a really good start, and moving in the right direction. Still waiting for a new Mac Pro. Check out the movie about how it's made.

Dexter2999
03-19-2012, 02:29 PM
I've never found Mac particularly geared towards users making upgrades. Aside from the ability to pop it open, it looks like hp took a page out of Mac's design book and made their version of an iMac.
http://zapp4.staticworld.net/reviews/graphics/products/uploaded/apple_27inch_core_i5_imac28ghz_quadcore.html_58673 7_g1.jpg
http://cdn1.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/3064188/hp-z1-workstation-press_large_verge_medium_landscape.jpg

Tony3d
03-19-2012, 02:37 PM
I've never found Mac particularly geared towards users making upgrades. Aside from the ability to pop it open, it looks like hp took a page out of Mac's design book and made their version of an iMac.
http://zapp4.staticworld.net/reviews/graphics/products/uploaded/apple_27inch_core_i5_imac28ghz_quadcore.html_58673 7_g1.jpg
http://cdn1.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/3064188/hp-z1-workstation-press_large_verge_medium_landscape.jpg

Did you watch the movie, and see how modular everything is. The iMac can't easily be user upgraded. Even the graphics card is swappable. The HP is aimed squarely at the pro market.

ivanze
03-19-2012, 02:58 PM
Now, I want one of those HP. :)

Really nice.

Dexter2999
03-19-2012, 02:59 PM
see the first sentence in my post

Why do you think even the batteries are sealed in ALL of their consumer products? The Mac Pro is the only product they have that is even remotely user friendly in upgrading.

Tony3d
03-19-2012, 03:02 PM
I know very slick. HP beat Apple to it. Apple needs to put resources into stuff other than the iPad, or their going to get left behind.

UnCommonGrafx
03-19-2012, 04:18 PM
That's a really nice 'case'.
If the monitor piece is readily available for repair, this is how future cases will definitely go.

The Mac Pro is really slick in that regard: very easy to get in and DIY.

aperezg
03-23-2012, 10:57 AM
I like one like this with OS X Mountain Lion

accom
03-24-2012, 04:24 AM
I have allways percieved macs as machines that requires minimum maintenance. In every way - SW- and HW-wise. So having an iMac that is impossible to upgrade in some way makes sense. It's hassle free, and even the low end macs can be quite usefull. True (and sad, in a way), you don't get the PC performance, but overall I think that price/performance factor is actually quite similar. This seamless performance of the 'Apple computer package' is Apple's philosophy, and it gives me the time to deal with projects, not the machine. I have never rant over lame graphic cards or 'overpriced' HW. Because IMHO 'the package' performs as it should. I really don't care what graphic card is in my comp. In fact, i don't want to bother with it. (But I do anyway, even if I belive it's a waste of time!)

But yes, I'd like to see an upgraded MacPro, too. And I think that this DIY approach is a logical step for any inteligent being - wanting to understand, be able to control and manipulate anything that one deals with. Since many of us grew up with first computers coming to life (my first was ZX 81, then spectrum, commodore 64, C128, Amiga 500, then win 95, first job with Mac Quadra and first PowerPC Macs, then SGI INDY) and we were constantly bombarded with new HW and SW upgrades. Those upgrades were significant changes, that meant how much work we would be able to finish in those 8 to 10 hours... and how much time would be left for fun. Now - as I watch our kids playing arround with computers, they just want to know 'how well does this-and-that game' performs. They don't bother with computers guts.

So, if I look at this human - computer interaction thing developing, I'd say that Apple's approach to HW development (iPad's numbering is user-generated, not Apple's) is evolutional and slowly eliminates this 'what-hardware-obsession' of an average user. Of course there will (I hope and belive so) allways be individuals who would like to know/understand/deliver more!

So, Apple, kick those asses and give us that new MacPro! :)