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Waves of light
01-22-2012, 05:27 AM
Speed Modelling Challenge #156 New versus Old technology
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Rules:

1. Every week there will be a subject for you to model along with a time limit. You should spend no longer than the allocated time, then post a render of your model. As in most challenges like this, your honesty on modeling times is essential. How you interpret the brief is up to you as long as the final model conforms to what is asked for.
2. Post a wire-frame and a render at 800x600 or larger.
3. LightWave must be used for modeling. 3rd party Plug ins are allowed.
4. You can enter as many times as you like, posting each in this thread. If you run over the time, the model can still be posted but won't be subject to the judging.
5. Time spent on texturing, setting up a scene for a render and rendering is not included in the allocated period.
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This week's topic is : New versus Old technology

Time Limit - 120 minutes. Bit of a double modelling challenge this week. Speed model two items, the latest version and the older model. Something that has changed a lot over the years. Examples: a computer mouse, a calculator, mobile phones, walkman/ipod, record player/portable CD player...

Images with both items present and rendered at 800x600 will still be accepted.

Apologies for the lateness of the challenge. And the short time in which it will run.

Deadline: Wed. 25th January 2012. 22:00 G.M.T

Iain
01-23-2012, 01:07 AM
Good one!
I think we'll have to roll it onto another week if last week's winner doesn't mind.

Waves of light
01-23-2012, 02:24 AM
Cheers Iain, will have to check with XswampyX, but the extra time would help.

XswampyX
01-23-2012, 06:10 AM
'ello.

Yeah, an extra week sound good to me!

Waves of light
01-23-2012, 06:37 AM
'ello.

Yeah, an extra week sound good to me!

Cheers m'old :thumbsup:

Waves of light
01-24-2012, 06:31 AM
PLEASE NOTE THE CHANGE IN DEADLINE: 1st Feb 2012 22:00 GMT

XswampyX
01-24-2012, 06:51 AM
Is that the 'NEW' deadline v's the 'OLD' deadline? :hey:

Waves of light
01-24-2012, 06:54 AM
Is that the 'NEW' deadline v's the 'OLD' deadline? :hey:

Oh dear... oh dear.

Waves of light
01-24-2012, 04:25 PM
Ok,

So, I made an attempt to model an Ipod Nano as the first part of my New vs Old challenge. I did manage to model it in 63 mins (link to the screen capture here if anyone wants it Nano timelapse (http://rsldesigns.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/IpodNano_Timelapse.mpeg) Right click, Save as - warning: 33M download).

However, when I'd finished, I had a nightmare trying to shape the wires/cord into the correct position (using bones) and went back and remodeled them using the pipe function in LWCAD. I also noticed that the ear pieces for the headphones weren't high poly enough, so I've ditched this entry as the extra remodeling had eaten up another 30mins.

On with the show.

Ricky.

XswampyX
01-28-2012, 08:34 AM
Over time on this one. It's hard enough with just one object. :D

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr16/xXswampyXx/ironsSmall.jpg

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr16/xXswampyXx/IronsWired.jpg

Waves of light
01-28-2012, 09:24 AM
Excellent attempts XswampyX.

I'm starting to feel like the competition thread killer. I made the assumption that 60 mins would be long enough for 1 model and therefore 120 mins would be fine for 2. Going to give it another go later.

XswampyX
01-28-2012, 09:28 AM
Don't worry. I have that fear every time I start a challenge. :eek:

I'll do another one.

Waves of light
01-28-2012, 09:42 AM
Lol, just noticed the fur on the flex... nice one.

Iain
01-28-2012, 12:50 PM
Wow that modern iron is stunning!

XswampyX
01-28-2012, 06:04 PM
Thanks Iain, glad you liked it. :)

I wonder what it's used for? :question:

R.Feeney
01-28-2012, 06:14 PM
Looks cool XswampyX

With any luck I`ll get one done before Wednesday or in this case two ;)

Waves of light
01-29-2012, 01:02 AM
Wow that modern iron is stunning!

Agree. XswampyX is a sub-d master.

Glad you could jump on board Richard. Looking forward to seeing some more entries.

ArtGoblin
01-29-2012, 08:36 AM
very good looking models XswampyX... about what it's used for I can't really be of any help since I'm completely stumped myself.... now I have to run, I gotto catch the stores before they close since I have to return a lot of defected shirts I bought only a month ago and now they are all wrinkly and stuff!

Iain
01-29-2012, 09:44 AM
now I have to run, I gotto catch the stores before they close since I have to return a lot of defected shirts I bought only a month ago and now they are all wrinkly and stuff!

So you're single eh?

ArtGoblin
01-29-2012, 09:45 AM
hahaha.... I sooooo am haha

Rabbitpenny
01-29-2012, 12:46 PM
Great irons XswampyX. I have two of the ones one the left.

Old and "newer" technology:

https://sites.google.com/site/rabbitpenny3d/home/Stairs001.jpg
https://sites.google.com/site/rabbitpenny3d/home/StairsCage001.jpg

XswampyX
01-29-2012, 02:15 PM
Nice one Rabbitpenny sharp detailing on the rail. :thumbsup:

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr16/xXswampyXx/CasetteCDsmall.jpg

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr16/xXswampyXx/CasetteCDsWired.jpg

1Hr 59 on the tape.... the rest on the cd.

Bax33
01-29-2012, 08:16 PM
You guys are amazing! I don't think I could ever make a cassette look that real if you gave me 2 years! Just amazing!! The nano is in that super real category to. I'm in absolute awe.

stevenpalomino
01-29-2012, 11:33 PM
This is probably a good time to ask.. How do you model circular holes in your geometry when sub'd modeling? Circular Holes and circular bulges are so hard for me

Waves of light
01-30-2012, 12:57 AM
This is probably a good time to ask.. How do you model circular holes in your geometry when sub'd modeling? Circular Holes and circular bulges are so hard for me

Hi Steven... I always go back to this video: http://www.pixelandpoly.com/video002.html

And also, check out his other vids: http://www.pixelandpoly.com/video.html

@Bax33: Yes you can. Seriously, my nano is nothing more than basic primitives with a few LWCAD processes thrown in. Slow down the timelapse to see (you will even see some of my mistakes). XswampyX is very good at sub-d modelling and he will always show you his wires, so you can work out poly flow, etc. I would have loved to do the nano in sub-d, but I struggle to do anything other than character modelling in sub-d. Also, check out his blog too.

XswampyX
01-30-2012, 03:21 PM
This is probably a good time to ask.. How do you model circular holes in your geometry when sub'd modeling? Circular Holes and circular bulges are so hard for me

I knocked this up for you.
http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr16/xXswampyXx/MakeHoles.jpg

http://youtu.be/k14IzZibSl0

It's not the only way, but it's what I used on the tape. I have shown a couple of different methods for getting the underlying polys set up.

Have fun! :)

stevenpalomino
01-30-2012, 03:56 PM
whoa!! Thanks swampy! GREAT tutorial! Also, great pixel and poly videos! Thanks so much! just what i needed!

R.Feeney
01-30-2012, 04:27 PM
Old Vs New. Pump Vs Tap

Iain
02-01-2012, 04:22 AM
Nice work guys.
I barely have an hour just now never mind two so I've cheated a bit; my 'old' model is an old speed model.
My 'new' took about 20 minutes (stand excluded.)

Waves of light
02-01-2012, 02:36 PM
Well time is almost upon us and I have had a really busy week, plus my youngest has been ill and off school, so that's not helped.

Anyway, here is a very bad attempt at an electric toothbrush v toothpick.

1hr 40mins for the electronic version. 3 mins for the toothpick.

@Iain: Excellent model mate. I can see that choosing 2 hrs for the comp wasn't my best move.

@R.Feeney: Nice sink Richard and great renders.

@Rabbit: Loving your ideas.

@XswampyX: Very clever, like your use of time for the CD.

Enjoy. Ricky.

Waves of light
02-01-2012, 03:10 PM
And now for the winner:

Firstly, I think that I should have made this comp a 'pick the new or the old version' and slapped a 60 min time limit on it. Probably would have had more entries. :(

Anyway, I know better next time.

XswampyX - Irons: Seriously, that's some crazy sub-d modelling. You really know your stuff when it comes to sub-d. Really like the cord on the modern version. Shame it's over the time limit.

Rabbitpenny - Stairs: Nice idea and great execution, especially the rope on the 'old' ladders.

XswampyX - Tape v CD: The modelling is amazing. And so well presented with the textures. Also, thank you for the quick tut and example for holes using sub-d modelling.

R.Feeney - Taps v Pump: Nice modelling on the sink and taps, looks good in the final render, would like to see another render with the sub division ramped up on the sink, but hey, it's a modelling comp not a render comp.

Iain - TVs: How times have changed. My grandfather would have loved the latest TVs. He always loved the latest technology. Your new version shows what can be achieved in 20 mins. Looks good in the scene. Really like the older version, shame it's from another thread. Boy I remember that test signal so well.

And the winner is.... XswampyX for his tape v CD. Really excellent modelling.

So over to the next guy/girl... please make it a simple one :thumbsup:

XswampyX
02-01-2012, 04:21 PM
Thanks Waves of light. It all came together with the tape. The texture was taken straight off the reference photo I used to model the tape. Sure makes texturing easier. :hey:

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr16/xXswampyXx/TapeBackWires.jpg

Ooooh next one is up! http://forums.newtek.com/showthread.php?t=125527

Waves of light
02-01-2012, 04:28 PM
Thanks Waves of light. It all came together with the tape. The texture was taken straight off the reference photo I used to model the tape. Sure makes texturing easier. :hey:

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr16/xXswampyXx/TapeBackWires.jpg

Ooooh next one is up! http://forums.newtek.com/showthread.php?t=125527

Nice. Again, a lesson in making it easy.

Iain
02-02-2012, 06:49 AM
Congrats XswampyX! Really well deserved on this one :thumbsup:
(although being super picky, I thought your screws were a bit pronounced. That wouldn't work with my old Denon player:))

Waves of light
02-02-2012, 07:00 AM
Congrats XswampyX! Really well deserved on this one :thumbsup:
(although being super picky, I thought your screws were a bit pronounced. That wouldn't work with my old Denon player:))

:rolleyes: there's always one.

Iain
02-02-2012, 07:07 AM
:rolleyes: there's always one.

Yeah I was going to comment on the height of Rabbitpenny's handrail but it could be Danny Devito's house.

Waves of light
02-02-2012, 07:12 AM
Yeah I was going to comment on the height of Rabbitpenny's handrail but it could be Danny Devito's house.

ROFLMAO. Good spot.

XswampyX
02-02-2012, 10:51 AM
Thanks Iain. It's one of the problems I have... Over doing everything!

If it's shiny, then set reflection to 100%
If it's curved, make it out of a ball.
If it refracts, then set it to 1.5.
If it's bumpy, then leave bump at 100%

I'm getting better at it though. :)

ArtGoblin
02-08-2012, 01:35 PM
So many crazy good entries here.... makes me feel bad I couldn't participate... but I was goin to, so I found it ion my to-do list and finished it so I'll post the way-to-late entry of mine :)

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/4151/milknewandoldwireframes.jpg

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4757/milknewandoldbeautycomp.jpg

Waves of light
02-08-2012, 02:19 PM
Excellent mate, really nice flow and render.

I know what you mean re. time. I'm up to my neck in it at the moment, and there is no way I will be able to participate in the latest comp.

The Dommo
02-08-2012, 02:23 PM
I actually really like that last render!
The cassette model is great too :)

ArtGoblin
02-08-2012, 02:35 PM
the Casette is superb and has a delicious looking wireframe

between holding a steady job at a kindergarden.... being a single dad and everything else that needs doin' I've found that making a detailed "to-do" list plays a key part for me to get anything done and not just go stale (wich is actually more of an advanced project overview excel document)

Waves of light
02-08-2012, 02:46 PM
the Casette is superb and has a delicious looking wireframe

between holding a steady job at a kindergarden.... being a single dad and everything else that needs doin' I've found that making a detailed "to-do" list plays a key part for me to get anything done and not just go stale (wich is actually more of an advanced project overview excel document)

Yep.. Dad of two, trying to run a business and making sure the wife comes home to a clean house, sometimes the only way to keep on top of it is to use post-it notes and google mails 'tasks'!