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OnlineRender
07-05-2011, 04:38 PM
Just heading back on mobile will write a review when at keyboard .......just go and see it ....stunning

cagey5
07-05-2011, 04:41 PM
I take it you don't agree with Mark Kermodes view of it then? :)

wrench
07-05-2011, 04:45 PM
Nor mine. There is no point trying to follow the story - the whole film is a sequence of completely unconnected scenes of weaponry and catching flying people.

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erikals
07-05-2011, 04:46 PM
heard it was cewl actually... :]

OnlineRender
07-05-2011, 04:47 PM
Honesty apart from 1 rigging screwup ,everything is spot on.... I do not even want to think about particle and collusion render times . Way too much bullet time effects but needed to show some of they awesome mechanical beasts .... mark who ? :P honestly it will have every 3d and transformers fan wetting there pants

OnlineRender
07-05-2011, 04:53 PM
Ben the storyline is pure gash ...but hot tidy chick makes up for that ....what else do you need ,fighting robots bullet time scenes and some token black humour thrown in for a laugh you cannot take anything away from the visual aspect

wrench
07-05-2011, 04:56 PM
The only thing that can be said in its favour in my opinion is that some of the fight sequences were in slow motion so you could see what is going on.

Oh, and JFK was crap.

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OnlineRender
07-05-2011, 05:03 PM
The only thing that can be said in its favour in my opinion is that some of the fight sequences were in slow motion so you could see what is going on.

Oh, and JFK was crap.

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Yeah they should have stuck with the real footage and sliced it ...they also nicked my audio idea ...post later .


You are hard man to please

wrench
07-05-2011, 05:09 PM
Nah, I enjoyed watching Hellboy 2 this evening and that hardly ranks among the cinema greats, although it did have a trailer for... umm I think it was Mummy 3? where the trailer stated something along the lines of "the action in this film will live for all eternity!" Hyperbole, much? Even Bay would hesitate before labelling Transformers 3 like that...

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cagey5
07-05-2011, 05:15 PM
If you want to see Kermode in one of his best rants yet [he's famous for them], then enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwkL53bH0PI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Dexter2999
07-05-2011, 05:39 PM
If you want to see Kermode in one of his best rants yet [he's famous for them], then enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwkL53bH0PI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Brilliant!

nwalker78
07-05-2011, 05:41 PM
i highly enjoyed the film, i did think it pretty ironic nemoy aka sentinal prime givine the needs of the many speach.

OnlineRender
07-05-2011, 06:08 PM
If you want to see Kermode in one of his best rants yet [he's famous for them], then enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwkL53bH0PI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Spot on ,which I suppose backs up my statement .3d perfection can it get any better than photoreal ?

Chris S. (Fez)
07-05-2011, 06:13 PM
As a film, disliked (too innocuous and stupid to hate). As an ILM demo reel, liked.

tyrot
07-05-2011, 06:38 PM
i liked ..John Turtorro and DUTCH sequences they were so funny ...

I guess BAY was going after 2012.... He was just probably showing them to 2012 famous limo scene...

BAY " Ok guys ... i want our tentaclebot on that building... and our guys are inside...ok...Do you see what i see... good... I am gonna show them i am the MAN... BAY MAN...are you BAYMAN! ha.."
Sfx Guy "No sir...You are the BAYMAN sir"...

But i guess somehow at the end of the movie, SFX guys gone crazy, knocked Bay out and added more and more CGI fighting... I was like watching a "botxing" sport...

Plus why Mercedes have to be a decepticon:)

I loved the clarity and lack of motion blur this time... Effects were right in your face... A cgi landmark...imo..

brian.coates
07-05-2011, 10:33 PM
The more I hear about this film the more I believe Michael Bay should be making porn movies...

...but then maybe he already is, just ones that have bigger budgets, worse acting and don't involve actual people.

bazsa73
07-05-2011, 10:39 PM
My transformers collector geeknerd co-worker friend hated it, he mumbled after the film like: wtf, wtf...
I sort of liked it. I go rarely to theaters. Twice a year or so.

OFF
07-05-2011, 10:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7kcqB3thJM
remix )

kosmodave
07-05-2011, 11:21 PM
If you want to see Kermode in one of his best rants yet [he's famous for them], then enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwkL53bH0PI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

LOL although I haven't seen the latest Transformers yet I tend to agree with him especially about all this 3d stuff. Saw Avatar in 3d and yes it was fantastic but I have no wish to sit through any more films wearing poxy glasses. Lets just get back to decent story telling please where the story/acting takes you into the film and not gimmicks.

Dave.

Matt
07-06-2011, 12:12 AM
The only thing that can be said in its favour in my opinion is that some of the fight sequences were in slow motion so you could see what is going on.

Oh, and JFK was crap.

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Just got back from seeing this CG-fest.

Yes, the CG JFK was terrible, Graham Tom's and I looked at each other in complete disbelief at that!

It was too long, had too much CG, but the CG was impressive, especially the snake thing.

Chick was hot though.

akademus
07-06-2011, 12:19 AM
Anyone in the States seen KREO toys (lego transformers) commercial before the movie?

The Dommo
07-07-2011, 11:27 AM
Storyline is pure gash?
So it's a porno? Awesome :D

ivanze
07-07-2011, 12:07 PM
CG Recycle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7kcqB3thJM&feature=player_embedded

erikals
07-07-2011, 12:27 PM
Bay Burglar...! http://media.nowpublic.net/images//2a/0/2a004f07ed32ad132b40440865fadcaf.jpg

 

Hieron
07-08-2011, 03:21 AM
Ok, so I finally went to see it yesterday.

I thought the 10 euro was very well spent. The S3D was very well done and sure more than a gimmick to me, the audio was awesome, the CG is consistently mindblowing, the storyline sure was enough to carry the movie along quite nicely. Everyone I was with enjoyed it. Will we look back at it fondly for many many years? Probably not, but most 10 euro's I spend do not get that sort of longlasting payback...

I'm interested by the general negative critics all around. Everyone is a grumpy old man these days.... Consider arthouse films if you don't like this kind of thing. There is a time, place and audience for each. And movies that fill any spot in the spectrum.

Or as the Dutch character in T3 would say: "Beste stuurlui staan aan wal"
(well actually he wouldn't since he's German or something)


Yes, the CG JFK was terrible, Graham Tom's and I looked at each other in complete disbelief at that!


Meh, he was in a shot for seconds and not even close to the camera.. I wonder if anyone really cared. I was looking for it since I saw your post.. I guess they could have done better, but disbelief?

OnlineRender
07-08-2011, 03:32 AM
Storyline is pure gash?
So it's a porno? Awesome :D

in a word " YES " ;P

wibly wobly
07-08-2011, 06:33 AM
I loved Kermode review of this movie. I'm for sure not a Bay fan. I think the only movie that he's made that I can watch (outside of that car chase at the beginning) was the Rock. Everything else I just watch for a few seconds and turn it off. I'd rather watch an Uwe Boll movie.

I'd much rather watch this then a Bay's Transformers movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ikVXJ7cn70

Nicolas Jordan
07-08-2011, 08:52 AM
The first Transformers movie wasn't bad except for all the teenage lust scenes etc. The second movie took what was crappy about the first movie and multiplied it turning it into an absolute train wreck. After the torture of watching the first 2 movies I'm not going to put myself through a 3rd one.

dwburman
07-08-2011, 09:30 AM
I haven't seen the third one. Since I grew up watching the generation 1 cartoon, I had certain expectations that the first two live action movies just don't satisfy. At least in the first one, I felt like they spent so much time on the human story, we didn't really get to know the robots. There are a bunch of design decisions that disappointed me as well. From making Bumblebee a mute muscle car instead of VW Bug to making Decepticons cars to making all of the robots so detailed that it is difficult to tell them apart some of the time.

As for the movie/story telling. I thought they were watchable. I don't care for the over-the-top action or maybe just the style in which it was done. The end of Tr2 felt really drawn out. Action scenes are great until they stop the plot. I'm sure it's a tough balance to find, and it sound like Tr3 is more of the same. Is it possible that these feature-length, multimillion dollar productions have less plot than the 80's extended-toy-commercial cartoons they are based on?

(...and stay off my lawn, you dang kids!)

Nicolas Jordan
07-08-2011, 09:48 AM
I haven't seen the third one. Since I grew up watching the generation 1 cartoon, I had certain expectations that the first two live action movies just don't satisfy. At least in the first one, I felt like they spent so much time on the human story, we didn't really get to know the robots. There are a bunch of design decisions that disappointed me as well. From making Bumblebee a mute muscle car instead of VW Bug to making Decepticons cars to making all of the robots so detailed that it is difficult to tell them apart some of the time.

As for the movie/story telling. I thought they were watchable. I don't care for the over-the-top action or maybe just the style in which it was done. The end of Tr2 felt really drawn out. Action scenes are great until they stop the plot. I'm sure it's a tough balance to find, and it sound like Tr3 is more of the same. Is it possible that these feature-length, multimillion dollar productions have less plot than the 80's extended-toy-commercial cartoons they are based on?

(...and stay off my lawn, you dang kids!)

:agree: I was also a big fan of the cartoon and these movies just don't live up to the 80s classic.

wibly wobly
07-08-2011, 11:41 AM
Isn't that what Hollywood has been doing for years now? Destroying all those good childhood memories with half backed remakes / sequels? My mouth almost hung open when I saw the trailer for the new Musketeer movie. Couldn't believe it. I don't know... Maybe I'm getting old or something but, I find I'm watching a lot of movies from the late 80's and earlier especially, from the 50s-70s.

EmperorPete
07-08-2011, 12:49 PM
Destroying all those good childhood memories with half backed remakes / sequels?
*looks round at the 900 or so Transformers in his house*
Hmm. Nope. I've seen all 3 Transformers movies, and my childhood memories are still perfectly fine, thank you.

wibly wobly
07-08-2011, 01:16 PM
hahaha, lucky you. I think most of the remakes I've seen over the past decade have been pretty lackluster review wise. I tried watching the first Transformers movie when it was on TV. I tuned in at the end because I heard it was the best part. Just, couldn't bring myself to watch it.

I don't know why they made the designs the way they did. They really seem over designed and I find hard to look at. Where's the guys mouth, can I see his face though all that little detail and all? I also don't know why they tossed out the idea that they occupy the physical material to turn into a car and robot at the same time. Pushing the look one way or another seems prudent to me but, they seem to have goon too overboard imo.

I want to see the live action Space Battleship Yamato. I've heard that it's not bad adaption. The previews I saw look like they did a great job with the look and design.

Dexter2999
07-08-2011, 01:44 PM
*looks round at the 900 or so Transformers in his house*
Hmm. Nope. I've seen all 3 Transformers movies, and my childhood memories are still perfectly fine, thank you.

Wish I could say that about GI JOE.

BigHache
07-11-2011, 07:20 AM
The first Transformers movie wasn't bad except for all the teenage lust scenes etc. The second movie took what was crappy about the first movie and multiplied it turning it into an absolute train wreck.

I'd say that's a pretty spot-on assessment.

The 3rd installment made up for the first two movies for me, which is weird considering sequels tend to go downhill. Not so much for the teenage lust scenes in this one :thumbsup:, though the characters of the parents are more annoying. Thanks, but I don't need a comic relief moment in an action movie, that's also a sci-fi, that's also a drama, that's also base on a cartoon…

Cryonic
07-11-2011, 09:33 AM
There are a bunch of design decisions that disappointed me as well. From making Bumblebee a mute muscle car instead of VW Bug to making Decepticons cars to making all of the robots so detailed that it is difficult to tell them apart some of the time.

From what I understand, VW didn't give Bay approval to use the old VW bug for Bumblebee. So, they made him a Camero (who beats up an old yellow and black vw beetle) and then showcased the next Camero as that is what Chevy wanted. They loaned the set 2 prototypes of the upcoming (at that time) Camero to use in the filming.

dwburman
07-11-2011, 11:04 AM
I thought in the DVD special features, they talked about Bay not wanting him to be bug because it wasn't cool/tough/macho enough. Maybe I'm not remembering it correctly, or maybe it's a bit of both scenarios. I'm sure licensing played a significant roll. Are all the autobots (at least in the first live action movie) GM cars?

I'm not going to have a mental break down over it. I just found it a bit annoying, since it sort of changes the character. A Chevy Aveo would've been a better match, but I dont' think it's been out long enough to have the old beaten up version that the story called for. http://www.chevrolet.com/aveo/ :D

BigHache
07-11-2011, 12:24 PM
I would have liked a Mini Cooper myself, as that's closer kin to a VW than a Chevy.

dandeentremont
07-12-2011, 12:16 PM
My favorite line was when Sentinel was describing the teleportation pillars and he said, "They defy your laws of physics."

This explains the "Michael Bay physics" that occurred throughout all 3 of the movies :)

wibly wobly
07-14-2011, 11:47 AM
The Mini Cooper would have been a much better idea for Bumble Bee for sure. Maybe it has something to do with what people say about the size of your car and the size of your.... hElloo!

Maybe he'll get it right when they make a 4th one and maybe they'll have a different director then. haha. Nah, we'll probably only get a good giant robot movie when Japan makes a Voltron flick.