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VideoMonster
10-05-2003, 02:43 PM
I am currently running VT2 with the following setup:

P4 1.5GHz (Single)
(2) 256MB RDRam = 512MB (400MHz)
Windows XP SP1
3Ware Escalade 7800 IDE 8-port Controller
(4) 80GB IDE 7800RPM Hard Drives Striped
NO 64-Bit PCI Slots
GeForce Dual-Display Cheapie. (But okay for what I do)

I would like to upgrade the hardware when I upgrade the software to VT3.

What are the best 2 or 3 motherboards to use? I need at least 1 64-bit PCI slot for the IDE controller. I would like dual-xeon.

This is important: The 3Ware Escalade 7800 DOES NOT WORK will all motherboards. In my current motherboard, it works fine (80MB/sec). In another, it gets only 20MB/s.

Also, what do you think about IDE drives for video? They were real popular a year or two ago when SCSI was so expensive. Are they still considered to be good for video? I am currently not getting anywhere near their potential because the controller is in a 32-bit slot so the Toaster Card takes alot of bandwidth from them.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

kleima
10-05-2003, 10:12 PM
Tyan S2665UANF.

PIZAZZ
10-06-2003, 08:42 AM
You will see a Tremendous Performance increase by switching to SCSI drives. Dual Xeons will definitely help also. ;)

In most of the systems we build I rely on Supermicro Motherboards out of personal preference. All the boards I use definitely have 64bit slots for your IDE Raid. I would use your IDE raid for backup storage and small jobs. Get 4 73gig SCSI U320 Harddrives for your day to day work.

I have a demo system with Dual 1.8 Ghz Xeons on a Supermicro Motherboard that I would sell in a heartbeat. Let me know if you are interested.

thrasher
10-08-2003, 10:26 AM
Reading through the archives, here is what I have decided on.

SuperMicro X5DA8
(2) XEON 3.0/533
(2) 1GB Crucial 2100
3Ware 7506-8 port IDE controller

Let me know what you would change to make this system better except SCSI drives. Those will come later. IDE for now.

PIZAZZ
10-08-2003, 03:37 PM
I wouldn't do IDE. I would go Serial ATA.
There are several reasons:
Better Performance as a whole
Better Cooling - less bulky cabling inside the PC
Less number of drives for same performance
Less Costly because you do not have to have a RAID card

It has been reported that 2 Seagate SATA drives on the onboard controller is getting 115 mb/sec. I have 4 Western Digital 80 gig drives Raid O on a 3ware 7500 card and only get 115 mb/sec.

Just my thoughts.

Give me a shout if you would like a competitive quote on a turnkey system.

Oh and welcome to the Xeon family!!!!!

thrasher
10-08-2003, 03:50 PM
I wouldn't do IDE. I would go Serial ATA.
There are several reasons:
Better Performance as a whole
Better Cooling - less bulky cabling inside the PC
Less number of drives for same performance
Less Costly because you do not have to have a RAID card


I already have (4) 80GB Western Digital IDE Drives. Can I convert these to SATA?

Even if the performance was the same as IDE, it would save from using the IDE card.

PIZAZZ
10-08-2003, 06:29 PM
Actually Yes you can convert a regular IDE drive to a SATA drive. I will have to look up a current price on the adapters and get back with you.

thrasher
10-08-2003, 06:43 PM
How does the adapter affect performance of the drive?

RBernards
10-09-2003, 08:19 PM
I have a Tyan S2665 Thunder with dual on board U320/
firewire/USB2/Lan and I love it.
It has one 64-bit 133mhz PCI-X slot,
two 64-bit 100mhz PCI-X slots
and two 32-bit 33mhz PCI slots.

Don't know about IDE, I use SCSI.

PIZAZZ
10-09-2003, 08:24 PM
I haven't tested the output of the SATA to IDE adapters.

The cost on the little guys is $27.50
simply makes any IDE device from a hard drive to a DVD/CDRom into a SATA compatible device.