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virtualcomposer
04-12-2011, 01:54 PM
I'm still in transit about the Mac computer I need to get. I saw a 2.8 (8) core which I think is the 2008 model Mac Pro and was wondering if that would be worth getting more then a new top of the line IMac. I was also wondering what you think about this. http://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-2019s-VX2739WM-27-Inch-1920x1080-Monitor/dp/B003GBRXKU

It's a 27" monitor and would be spending total with monitor and Mac Pro about the same as I would for a new top of the line IMac. What are your thoughts? I'm going to be buying in the next week so this is a big decision for me and my business.

Rayek
04-12-2011, 02:34 PM
Does it need to be Mac, or is a Windows machine also an option?

aa1037
04-12-2011, 02:46 PM
Have you looked through this site - you might find it helpful.

http://macperformanceguide.com/index_topics.html

Rayek
04-12-2011, 02:47 PM
That Viewsonic screen is not really suitable for design work, and gets quite low reviews. You could get a proper ips screen, such as a Dell U2711 or HP LP2475w, which are far superior for design work. A bit more expensive, but it IS the one component you will be looking at all the time while working. Speed of the computer is less of an issue, unless you intend to do a lot of rendering.

And, depending on your working environment, the reflective iMac screen may become a problem.

virtualcomposer
04-12-2011, 02:52 PM
Does it need to be Mac, or is a Windows machine also an option?

It definitely has to be a Mac. :thumbsup:

virtualcomposer
04-12-2011, 03:09 PM
That Viewsonic screen is not really suitable for design work, and gets quite low reviews. You could get a proper ips screen, such as a Dell U2711 or HP LP2475w, which are far superior for design work. A bit more expensive, but it IS the one component you will be looking at all the time while working. Speed of the computer is less of an issue, unless you intend to do a lot of rendering.

And, depending on your working environment, the reflective iMac screen may become a problem.

Yeah, the rendering is my main key thing I'll be doing plus I have allot of processor intensive audio tracks with allot of plugins. I'll check that screen out.

virtualcomposer
04-12-2011, 03:10 PM
That Viewsonic screen is not really suitable for design work, and gets quite low reviews. You could get a proper ips screen, such as a Dell U2711 or HP LP2475w, which are far superior for design work. A bit more expensive, but it IS the one component you will be looking at all the time while working. Speed of the computer is less of an issue, unless you intend to do a lot of rendering.

And, depending on your working environment, the reflective iMac screen may become a problem.

I just looked at the price and it's out of my price range. What about something around the $400 or $500 range?

Rayek
04-12-2011, 03:26 PM
What about the hp LP2475w? Could be yours for about $550.

I also read good things about the hp zr24w, though the minimum luminance settings seems to high - but if your work environment is flooded with light, it would not be a problem. That screen sells for about $450.

And the older 2008 mac pro still does a good job rendering.

Check out the model's score at http://www.cbscores.com/index.php?sort=os

This will help you decide.

virtualcomposer
04-12-2011, 03:43 PM
What about the hp LP2475w? Could be yours for about $550.

I also read good things about the hp zr24w, though the minimum luminance settings seems to high - but if your work environment is flooded with light, it would not be a problem. That screen sells for about $450.

And the older 2008 mac pro still does a good job rendering.

Check out the model's score at http://www.cbscores.com/index.php?sort=os

This will help you decide.

I need a 26 or 27 inch screen though. Anything around $600 or less on a 27?

virtualcomposer
04-12-2011, 03:54 PM
What about the hp LP2475w? Could be yours for about $550.

I also read good things about the hp zr24w, though the minimum luminance settings seems to high - but if your work environment is flooded with light, it would not be a problem. That screen sells for about $450.

And the older 2008 mac pro still does a good job rendering.

Check out the model's score at http://www.cbscores.com/index.php?sort=os

This will help you decide.

Hey thanks for the model scores. That will help tremendously!

Rayek
04-12-2011, 04:08 PM
I need a 26 or 27 inch screen though. Anything around $600 or less on a 27?

Why the need for a 27"? For that price, you will generally get the same 1920*1200 resolution at 24", but at a reduced quality.

virtualcomposer
04-12-2011, 04:10 PM
Why the need for a 27"? For that price, you will generally get the same 1920*1200 resolution at 24", but at a reduced quality.

Really? My eyes strain allot with smaller screens so that's why I was leaning towards a 27". Are 27" screens a bit much have you noticed?

Rayek
04-12-2011, 04:12 PM
How about this one? About your price range, 27", ips AND 2560*1600 rez. Gets a good review.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hazro_hz27wa.htm

virtualcomposer
04-12-2011, 04:21 PM
How about this one? About your price range, 27", ips AND 2560*1600 rez. Gets a good review.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hazro_hz27wa.htm

wow, that looks really nice. I can see getting a screen like that. I know I could pay $2000 for the perfect screen but sometimes compromises are a must. This does look like a great screen and with a used 2008 model Mac Pro and this screen is about what I would have paid for a top of the line IMac with Ram upgrades and everything else.

virtualcomposer
04-12-2011, 04:49 PM
Do you think a Dell 24 or 27 inch would be better?

virtualcomposer
04-12-2011, 04:51 PM
Do you think there is much of a power difference in a New IMac 27" and a 2008 Mac Pro 8 Core?

Rayek
04-12-2011, 07:55 PM
Depends on the resolution you want - the 2711 offers a higher resolution, and occupies both outputs from the video card (dual link is required to run the 2560*1600 rez), while the u2410 is 1920*1200 rez, and you could expand the system with a second screen later. Two 24" screen work better for design work than one 27" screen in my opinion.

Also, if you need more graphics power, the Apple 5870 kit (http://store.apple.com/ca/product/MC743ZM/A), although not stated, does work on the 2008 models, so you could decide to upgrade your machine at a later time in this regard.

As for the speed difference between a modern iMac, and the 2008 Harpertown, for pure rendering speed it seems like the 2008 model wins out, since there are no 6/8 core cpu's available for the iMac. Look at this comparison:

http://www.barefeats.com/wst10.html

Even the lowest clocked Harpertown defeats the 2.93mhz i7 for rendering (due to the 8 cores). However, for applications like Photoshop the newer i7 will be faster, though not that much faster. Interesting to note that the newest 8-core mac pro's are actually slower than the 2009 variants.

So, perhaps looking around for a second hand 2009 mac pro might also be an option - though they still tend to sell for higher prices (which makes sense - a lot of mac users tell me the 2009 model is a real work horse).

Rayek
04-12-2011, 07:58 PM
Btw, just tried maxing out the specs for a new iMac 27" on Apple's website - wow, that's some serious dough they are asking. It makes sense to look for different vendors for ram, at the very least.

Never buy your ram from Apple ;-)