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Tony3d
03-30-2011, 09:13 AM
What's the best way to model this funky contour. I really don't know where to begin.

GandB
03-30-2011, 09:51 AM
It looks like simple circles, that are then tilted to each side, extruded creatively, and then subdivided.

jeric_synergy
03-30-2011, 09:51 AM
Splines.

Google on "spline modeling lightwave". Buy Larry Schultz's DVD. Brew a big vat of coffee.

OR: see if you can get the original CAD files.

Tony3d
03-30-2011, 09:56 AM
Splines.

Google on "spline modeling lightwave". Buy Larry Schultz's DVD. Brew a big vat of coffee.

OR: see if you can get the original CAD files.

I'm shooting for the CAD files. I think this would be a nightmare otherwise. I don't have enough experience with spline modeling. The cad files are in solidworks. I have an L script for importing and exporting STL files. I'm going to see if that works. Tried displacing it as a starting point. That was a disaster. Any other idea's?

BigHache
03-30-2011, 10:05 AM
You can probably model most of the white piece as one object. I'd probably look at keeping the two smaller circular areas as separate objects. Model a base with the larger circles, delete the middle polys, do the extrude/bevel and rotations on the large circles, then fill in the middle polys. May be a better way but that sounds like a way.

jeric_synergy
03-30-2011, 10:33 AM
Any other idea's?

Subcontracting.

Seriously: too many LW's aren't business-like in this respect. You can't be good at everything. There are people out there to whom this would be a piece of cake. Someone who knows spline modeling cold.

Put it out to bid, look at their reels, sign contracts, badda bing.


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DanD
03-30-2011, 01:09 PM
I'd definitely do a sub-d type model and the good news is you only have to build half of it do to it being symmetrical. I'd start by loading that jpeg directly in modeler and use it as a backdrop and work on top of it. Maybe start with the larger circle and make that only like 12 or 16 sided then put in the smaller circle and only make that 6 or 8 sided and then fill in the rest in some clever manner with polys.

CharlieL
04-01-2011, 01:47 AM
Subcontracting.
Seriously: too many LW's aren't business-like in this respect. You can't be good at everything. There are people out there to whom this would be a piece of cake. Someone who knows spline modeling cold.

Put it out to bid, look at their reels, sign contracts, badda bing.

Good advice! I have been there myself with spline modeling. It took way to much time.
But where do you find those spline-gurus that will take such assignments?

Tony3d
04-01-2011, 08:57 AM
I'm going to get STL files from them, and should be able to import them right into Lightwave with the importer someone kindlygave me. I brought this in, and just surfaced it as is. It seems to have worked nicely. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/2001as/48fa8002.jpg

jeric_synergy
04-01-2011, 04:20 PM
Good advice! I have been there myself with spline modeling. It took way to much time.
But where do you find those spline-gurus that will take such assignments?
A NewTek official was at pains to tell me that there is a forum JUST for that purpose: connecting LightWave subcontractors to possible customers. (It was either Chuck or Matt.)

And here it is: http://www.newtek.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=51

Down there in the Classifieds. I think the more we get a specialist economy going, the better for the community.

Modelers and Scripters seem, to me, to be the most likely jobs for subcontracting. Throw Nodal specialists in there too, since node'ing is so difficult for many.

CharlieL
04-02-2011, 01:14 PM
A NewTek official was at pains to tell me that there is a forum JUST for that purpose: connecting LightWave subcontractors to possible customers. (It was either Chuck or Matt.)

And here it is: http://www.newtek.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=51

Down there in the Classifieds. I think the more we get a specialist economy going, the better for the community.
Modelers and Scripters seem, to me, to be the most likely jobs for subcontracting. Throw Nodal specialists in there too, since node'ing is so difficult for many.

Great to hear! I was not aware of this forum.
It seems to be a good channel, however I think it would also be very interesting to have
a possibility to directly look up different specialsts in some kind of ad register for skilled people.
The other way around, so to say.
I do also think that creatives more and more will work in networks with loose connections.

jeric_synergy
04-02-2011, 03:54 PM
Great to hear! I was not aware of this forum.
It seems to be a good channel, however I think it would also be very interesting to have
a possibility to directly look up different specialsts in some kind of ad register for skilled people.
The other way around, so to say.
I do also think that creatives more and more will work in networks with loose connections.
Well, I don't think it's that good, since both of us needed it pointed out to us.

BUT, directly below that one IS a forum for people offering their services:

http://www.newtek.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=52

So, you're covered, although .sig lines are also recommended.

CharlieL
04-03-2011, 09:14 AM
Well, I don't think it's that good, since both of us needed it pointed out to us.

BUT, directly below that one IS a forum for people offering their services:
http://www.newtek.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=52

So, you're covered, although .sig lines are also recommended.

Thanks for your posting jeric_synergy!
Sorry to say, I was not too impressed of this. Old postings and incorrect links. One guy had an hyphen
in his domain, but had forgot it in the link he gave in his presentation. When I came to a web site in
Japanese I was very confused (the domain without a hyphen).

Another had a link to a badly installed website that the only content was about web services,
even if the menue said 3D-gallery.

There were some generalists presented, and nothing wrong with that, but in a forum like this one I think it
would be much more relevant to get contact with some good specialists, as you named in SubD-modeling,
in Nodes, in rigging, particle-effects and so on.

The idea to present people willing to support colleagues is good. But this may not be much of a help.
I think the postings have to be moderated if they want to be recognized as serious guys.
Maybe they should follow some strict rules or criteria in order to make it more trustworthy.
I also think it might be better for all parts to present this in a more accessible forum.

I would very much look forward to such listings to getting help from others.

jeric_synergy
04-03-2011, 09:28 AM
CharlieL, I think the more it gets used, the better it will be.

Artists are notoriously crap at getting work, that's why agents exist.

FWIW, I think if somebody were offering these types of services, they should post there about once a month, to keep it fresh and get new feedback. Putting stuff up once doesn't cut it.