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Triodin
09-17-2010, 10:32 AM
Looking to start / expand my collection - looking for all the cool stuff for Sci-Fi battle scenes. Anyone have anything that's good and not too pricey?

erikals
09-17-2010, 03:03 PM
all the ones i have found have been pricey, and not all that good :\

Triodin
09-17-2010, 03:21 PM
I've been doing a few searches and Video Copilot really has some nice stuff.

http://www.videocopilot.net/products/action2/

Good price, high quality, and a good license so I can use 'em for almost anything I want.

I'm still looking, but would love to know what elements anyone else uses, or if everyone makes their own?

I've also been eying Particular as I've used Apple Motions particle generator and that's loads of fun, Particular looks even better.

http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/products/all/trapcode-particular/

erikals
09-17-2010, 03:30 PM
maybe this explosion footage service,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O22PTmj-svs
http://vimeo.com/9538018
from,
http://www.detfilmshd.com/Collections_Overview.html

hm, those seem to be very good... :]

erikals
09-17-2010, 03:36 PM
I've been doing a few searches and Video Copilot really has some nice stuff.

http://www.videocopilot.net/products/action2/

very nice find :]

Triodin
09-17-2010, 03:48 PM
maybe this explosion footage service,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O22PTmj-svs


Freaking hilarious.

Could you imagine how fun it would be to film these explosions?

I'd hate to be the guy to roto the alpha though - lol!

erikals
09-17-2010, 04:04 PM
yeeah, i LOVE explosions!

(oops, did i say that :P)

wish more people had an imagination like that, hehe :]

JeffrySG
09-17-2010, 04:23 PM
You can check out:

http://www.detonationfilms.com/
and
http://www.detfilmshd.com/Collections_Overview.html

I've heard there might be some trojans/spam/virus issues with the site but there is a lot there. Pretty inexpensive or free.

erikals
09-17-2010, 06:37 PM
You can check out:

http://www.detonationfilms.com/...

also see this link for "Do It Yourself" :]
http://www.detonationfilms.com/NEWSITE/tips.html
be careful... :O

 

juniordebo
09-17-2010, 07:26 PM
I like the explosions in the Pyro pack at Liberty3d (http://liberty3d.com/store/explosion/), check out the store there. There is even a tutorial on some of it as well.

erikals
09-17-2010, 07:31 PM
the more the merrier :]

thanks for the link!

erikals
09-17-2010, 08:10 PM
now go make....> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxNHBQdYi78

erikals
09-21-2010, 06:05 PM
you might need some sparks... :O
http://www.newtek.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1060991#post1060991

Triodin
09-21-2010, 06:40 PM
Fire Fire Fire!

http://www.vce.com/pyro.html

erikals
09-21-2010, 07:29 PM
nah, bought some of them some time back, very low res unfortunately.
even the new one they have which is called "Pyromania HD" is not really HD, but NTSC...
go for the other ones linked above instead :]

erikals
10-13-2010, 06:56 PM
also be sure to get,
http://www.videocopilot.net/products/opticalflares/
really nice :]

Dashermkii
10-13-2010, 08:29 PM
That looks realy cool to bad i dont have anymoney im still in highschool and dont have a job so unless its 20- i cant buy it.

But it looks great is there anyway to get something that looks like that without it? (easy to do hard or cant?)

erikals
10-14-2010, 05:54 AM
you can actually do it manually by using animated layers, but yes, that takes time...
a lot of time...

there is Lightwave lensflares of course, but that doesn't look as good...

tischbein3
10-14-2010, 09:48 AM
http://www.detfilmshd.com/Collections_Overview.html


Yes they are actually very good, if you keep in mind two "issues":

- Compression of the movs isn't that good (But considering that it is hd, it shouldn't be that big issue )
- You still need to go that extra mile to spice them up in you composite program (masking out of frame parts / mix it with some other explosions of the collections etc... and imho this isn't such a bad learning experience after all)

Btw I've just ordered these:
http://fxhome.com/footage-explosions
not sure if they actually provide any usefull quality at all... but I will try to post some stills once it arrived.

Maybe someone else here also wants to play the same guinea pig with this collection:
http://www.nccinema.ch/webshop/explosions_hd_-_1990.html

(might include the same material)

And if someone actually has additional money to throw out , there is still this alternative aviable:
http://www.digitaljuice.com/products/products.asp?pid=1122
(but again, at that price range you might also consider artbeats)

WillBellJr
10-14-2010, 02:21 PM
I would have thought that everyone considered Particle Illusion (http://www.wondertouch.com/) to be the end all for particle (especially explosion) effects?

Years ago, when I first learned about PI, I downloaded the demo, dragged around about 3 emitters and my credit card fell out on the spot - SOLD!

I've been waiting for the After Effects version which was finally released just recently, but after such a long wait, the current limitations made it sort of anti-climatic for me...

It is still however the first package I go to for particles.

I will admit I also use Digital Juice (http://www.digitaljuice.com/products/product_volumes.asp?pvid=21) seamless motion libraries in my video work - they have great sales and deals when you get on their mailing list!

-Will

erikals
10-14-2010, 04:51 PM
it does work, but it doesn't produce a very good addition for VFX as it's not 3dimetional,
and the 3dimetional effect is very subtle.
the smoke also has big lack of detail...

particular is good though
http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/products/all/trapcode-particular/examples/

then again, turbulence4D and hypervoxel sprites is often much better as it has better quality and offers more control...

tischbein3
10-15-2010, 09:26 AM
@willbell
might sign up on the list, unfortunately I don't have that much need for the rest of the collection.


fxhome cd just arrived, and as far as I can tell, it seems to be the same content as the nocontrol stuff.
(Same content as the examples shown on the nocontrol cinema pages , same number of clips (19)... )
And although indicated differently by the cover, they are basically all of the type "fireish ground explosion". Just look at the nocontrol pages for the examples to know what you'll get

tischbein3
12-09-2010, 04:18 PM
http://www.stockfootageforfree.com/other/free-super-slow-motion-fire-ball-explosion-stock-footage

and this might be also of certain interest:

http://www.footagefirm.com/free-slow-motion-explosions.html

http://www.footagefirm.com/free-slow-motion-fire-effects.html

erikals
12-09-2010, 10:37 PM
cool,... some nice shots :]

Greenlaw
12-10-2010, 09:52 AM
A few years ago I purchased a lot of the Detonation Films footage and the quality is quite good for the price, especially the HD stuff. The ones I have are ground explosions, gun shots, and police car lights.

I recently purchased some of the 'free' ($8.95 shipping) discs from Footage Firm. What I got was mainly slow motion cloud footage. I think some of the cloud clips will be very useful to me while others were just so-so, but the collections contained a good variety. I can't complain...the clips I considered good were a bargain for the price.

VCE used to sell explosion footage called Pyro Mania. These have sort of become fx cliches since they were used in just about everything for many years. (I have a friend who can name the clips when he sees them in a TV show or movie.) But, the clps are still pretty useful.

Here's the link: http://www.vcefilms.com/visfxmenu.html

I've shot some of my own footage in my backyard using a Sony Handycam CX-7 which can shoot HD at 240 fps in 3 second bursts (about 12 seconds of slo-mo.) My wife frowns on me burning and blowing things up in the backyard though, so I've stopped doing that. (I'm sure the LAPD probably appreciates it too.)

G.

erikals
12-10-2010, 07:53 PM
...I've shot some of my own footage in my backyard using a Sony Handycam CX-7 which can shoot HD at 240 fps in 3 second bursts (about 12 seconds of slo-mo.)

...sweet... :]

Greenlaw
12-10-2010, 10:06 PM
Hi,

Correction: the camera model name is HDR-CX7. (I knew I was close.) :)

I bought two of these tiny cameras a few years ago to use as 'car cameras' because they were relatively cheap and solid state (tapeless); the slo-mo feature was a cool bonus. The only issue I've had with these cameras is graininess in low-light but I've been using a Vegas plug-in called Neatvideo that does a great job cleaning this noise up. Apart from that, I really love this camera. I'm sure something better has come along in this price range by now, but I hope to keep using these guys for a long time.

G.

dwburman
12-11-2010, 10:01 AM
I see the artbeats (http://www.artbeats.com/footage/search?c=1&facets=66b9b9e&keywords=fire) fire stuff on TV a lot. They have some good stuff, but it's not cheap.

There are a few explosions at Pond5.com (http://www.pond5.com/index.php?ref=dwburman) including some of the stuff from VCE (He has an account there) - You can purchase clips individually.

There's also the Compositor's Toolkit from DigitalJuice (http://www.digitaljuice.com/products/products.asp?pid=1122)... but that's probably out of your price range as well.

I just ordered a couple of slow motion footage discs from Footage Firm (http://www.footagefirm.com/freeslowmotionfootage.html?utm_source=CreativeCowS lowMoV2&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CreativeCowSlowMoV2). I haven't purchased from them before, but the discs are "free", but if I can get a few usable clips for $9 shipping per disc, I'll be happy.