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SonicN2O
09-15-2010, 05:09 AM
It mentioned on wikipedia that James Cameron developed a new way to make CG explosions. Soes anyone know what it is?
:question:

OnlineRender
09-15-2010, 06:22 AM
It mentioned on wikipedia that James Cameron developed a new way to make CG explosions. Soes anyone know what it is?
:question:

LW particles ................ chuckles .

Firstly don't believe everything you read on wiki ,secondly I have no idea what was used , if anything ,it was probably in house developed by some very smart person(s) , and will never reach mainstream 3D users , then again it could be RealFlow ,C4D ,Blender , Fumefx and so forth ,maybe someone will have the answer but probably will fall under NDA ?.

SonicN2O
09-15-2010, 06:24 AM
LW particles ................ chuckles .

Firstly don't believe everything you read on wiki ,secondly I have no idea what was used , if anything ,it was probably in house developed by some very smart person(s) , and will never reach mainstream 3D users , then again it could be RealFlow ,C4D ,Blender , Fumefx and so forth ,maybe someone will have the answer but probably will fall under NDA ?.

OK... thanks for answering? Hey, weren't you one of the people who complained at me for asking not to be sent hyperlinks? if so, you really shouldn't be so short with people.

OnlineRender
09-15-2010, 06:35 AM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=feign+ignorance

/\like that ? ,tbh I thought that was a pretty good answer , I would learn LW dynamics and recreate explosions within Lightwave itself , look at turbulence (see forums ) , I would also look at the mushroom cloud tutorial for blender also Andrew Krammers video copilot training for compositing ,further more Kelly (Kat) BSG will give you further instruction in creating some very cool elements inside LW see Liberty3D.com , if that fails , you could always just PM Rob , I'm sure he will probably know the answer ....

Shnoze Shmon
09-15-2010, 07:07 AM
LW particles ................ chuckles .

Firstly don't believe everything you read on wiki ,secondly I have no idea what was used , if anything ,it was probably in house developed by some very smart person(s) , and will never reach mainstream 3D users , then again it could be RealFlow ,C4D ,Blender , Fumefx and so forth ,maybe someone will have the answer but probably will fall under NDA ?.

That was a very good answer.


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=feign+ignorance


THAT was hilarious! ROFLOL!

silviotoledo
09-15-2010, 10:55 AM
it is probably the same thing of always, in volumetrics, but optimized to render fast or updated to render in farms and new processors.

4dartist
09-15-2010, 12:40 PM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=feign+ignorance

Oh my.. i'm going to use this ALL the time. Thank you. LOL

phillydee
09-15-2010, 12:51 PM
LMAO @lmgtfy?q=feign+ignorance!

Red_Oddity
09-15-2010, 12:58 PM
All i know i know is they didn't do fx plate photography for medium/close shots because of the stereoscopy.

What i guess they used is some Navier-Stokes based solver with a wavelet turbulence algorithm on top of it for the final details, that's what i see when i eyeball the BluRay (i also can't believe they left a shot in there where you can clearly see the top of a fluid cage clipping away a smoke column, for those interested, it's right after the tree got blown to smithereens and the C21 Dragon Assault Ship turns away left out of the camera view and the camera tilts up from the overview of the carnage)

I could be off though, haven't had time to read the Cinefex yet.

jrandom
09-15-2010, 05:35 PM
From what I've read, ILM created a custom explosion system for those, so I don't think it's off-the-shelf software.

speismonqui
09-15-2010, 06:06 PM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=feign+ignorance


I just cant get tired of these :D

you guys like dumb questions?:
NDA stands for...?

dont http://lmgtfy.com me please!

speismonqui
09-15-2010, 06:10 PM
nevermind
(non-disclosure agreement)

i guess i'll be lmgtfy! :(

SonicN2O
09-15-2010, 07:15 PM
I just cant get tired of these :D

you guys like dumb questions?:
NDA stands for...?

dont http://lmgtfy.com me please!

What does NDA stand for?

RudySchneider
09-15-2010, 07:21 PM
Non-Disclosure Agreement. In other words, "mums the word."

Hopper
09-15-2010, 07:21 PM
What does NDA stand for?
No Dumbasses Allowed

RudySchneider
09-15-2010, 07:22 PM
No Dumbasses Allowed

Ooooo, I like your's better...

SonicN2O
09-15-2010, 07:30 PM
No Dumbasses Allowed
:censored::compbeati:foreheads:
think, Sonic. don't stoop to his level. cool down.
Do you play guitar?

Hopper
09-15-2010, 07:39 PM
Do you play guitar?
In order to satisfy your curiosity, you must first satisfy mine...

When you first installed LightWave, did they give you the black security lock labeled "Sentinel", or the green one labeled "SL-USB-6"?

SonicN2O
09-15-2010, 08:59 PM
Sentinel.
Why should I answer somebody who called me a dumbass? and If you remember the Stormy ocean incident, that makes you a total hypocrite.

Hopper
09-15-2010, 09:04 PM
Sentinel.
Interesting answer... Would anyone like to inform our guest as to why?

I've never seen a LightWave security dongle with the word "Sentinel" on it... has anyone else? Hmmmmmm... Didn't think so. Let me see... oh yes... that's because Sentinel doesn't make the hardware, just the security drivers for the locks.

Well... it's pretty much open season at this point. Do your worst.

EDIT: And to answer YOUR question as promised... Yes, I play guitar.

speismonqui
09-15-2010, 09:14 PM
what is lightwave? :D

jrandom
09-15-2010, 09:30 PM
What does NDA stand for?

Naked Dancing Asteroids!
Never Die Angry!
Now Draw Astronomy
New Dandruff Astringent
Nice Duds, Amanda.
Noon Day Apocalypse
Ninth Down, Apparently
Nope, Didn't Ask

Hopper
09-15-2010, 09:50 PM
How about ...

"Non-licensed Dishonest Acquisition"


If you remember the Stormy ocean incident, that makes you a total hypocrite.
I'm not quite sure what kind of dementia you're suffering from, but you asked for information on how to create a stormy ocean with foam and rain, etc... I gave you the link to a full 3 part free movie tutorial on how to do exactly that. :screwy: Then you had the audacity to gripe about it and practically demand a step by step text version after everyone else also tried to give you exactly what you asked for.

And just in case your memory fails you .... here's the thread.
http://www.newtek.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1052119

Could somebody tell me how to make a stormy ocean in lightwave? (Mist, Water, waves, foam and all)

At this point, my suggestion to you is to take your inane questions and cracked copy of LightWave and find some other forum to troll. We don't take to kindly to unlicensed usage around here. Even though this is an open forum, the fact that you all but admitted it with that silly answer about the security lock should be enough to get you banned, if not worse.

I obviously don't speak for everyone here, but I'm sure most around here won't be going out of there way to help you.

OnlineRender
09-16-2010, 06:14 AM
Interesting answer... Would anyone like to inform our guest as to why?

I've never seen a LightWave security dongle with the word "Sentinel" on it... has anyone else? Hmmmmmm... Didn't think so. Let me see... oh yes... that's because Sentinel doesn't make the hardware, just the security drivers for the locks.

Well... it's pretty much open season at this point. Do your worst.

EDIT: And to answer YOUR question as promised... Yes, I play guitar.

Mwhahahah I got to admit that was rather funny . . . but still dosn't beat .

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=definition+of+busted

I also play guitar ...

Shnoze Shmon
09-16-2010, 10:17 AM
Hopper you should have given more time for someone to press an answer out of him. There would be more evidence than a dodge of the question.

Although there is plenty of evidence for http://lmgtfy.com/?q=is+SonicN2O+prepubescent



Oh and

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+lightwave couldn't resist

biliousfrog
09-16-2010, 10:52 AM
It pains me to be all serious for a second but, in the interests of keeping threads informative for future users, I understand that Avatar used Naiad for some of its fluid effects (possibly including smoke and fire): http://www.exoticmatter.com/naiad/

jrandom
09-16-2010, 10:55 AM
It pains me to be all serious for a second but, in the interests of keeping threads informative for future users, I understand that Avatar used Naiad for some of its fluid effects (possibly including smoke and fire): http://www.exoticmatter.com/naiad/

Interesting that it's only available for Linux and Mac OS X.

speismonqui
09-16-2010, 11:13 AM
Oh and

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+lightwave couldn't resist

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... I knew it! :thumbsup:

lardbros
09-16-2010, 11:35 AM
In order to satisfy your curiosity, you must first satisfy mine...

When you first installed LightWave, did they give you the black security lock labeled "Sentinel", or the green one labeled "SL-USB-6"?

To be fair Hopper... your question was loaded, and the right answer is sentinel if he didn't understand your question. He's clearly a kid, but I started in here when I was a young-un, and it's tough... think many people begin with a cracky copy, I know i did, but I think that's how people end up using it in their jobs... I used a cracky copy of 3ds max too, but now my work buys god knows how many copies!

(I'd like to add that I never used cracked copies for paid for work... just when I was learning)

wesleycorgi
09-16-2010, 12:00 PM
Hopper, that was an interesting piece of detective work. I'm LMFAO. Reading the thread was like a mystery novel.

Separately, the Naiad tidbit is interesting; their site is very sparse, though.

OnlineRender
09-16-2010, 02:03 PM
it's tough... think many people begin with a cracky copy, I know i did,

So did RH , I'm sure I read that somewhere in an interview within the NT newsletter ?....
and so do the other 88 seeders + 13 lechers
at this moment in time downloading H33T version on BTJ ,that's open tracking ,that does not include rapidshare , shareware or any other p2p connection sites .

now if we compare that to 3DSMAX 2011 - 32/64bit + Keygen ,Status 415 seeds | 235 peers : now that speaks volumes .

{if you have strong morals and do not use Torrents , No need to read further }

I would suggest avoiding xforce*they mainly do 3D software" ,these guys are good , but someone(s) has uploaded alot of spoofed torrents under there name (mainly riddled with viruses ) , in fact avoid any torrent(s)/ sites for that matter , if so make sure it's private tracking , enable DNA ,enable antivirus /firewall and spoof everything .

keeping on the subject of LW and cracks , they should be giving the Educational version away for FREE ,if you feel inclined to download a cracked copy of LW ,you dont need A CRACKED installer ,every other installer is corrupt or a build version , I cant give further information on this . . I would suggest downloading the free 30 day trail (although limited) . .

The figures show that LW is active and being shared , and tbh , Im glad ..Xsi was it ?, at one point in time had more cracked version than legit . . .

jrandom
09-16-2010, 02:06 PM
I, too, used to run on pirated software exclusively, but that was when I was dirt broke.

Now that I have a real job I make sure my money gets to those to create the software I enjoy. :)

RebelHill
09-16-2010, 04:17 PM
So did RH , I'm sure I read that somewhere in an interview within the NT newsletter ?....

Yup... tahts quite correct... waaaaay back when I was still a noob.

Truth was I was trying to get hold of a similar version of 3dsmax (4)... but couldnt (pre torrent/widespread p2p days)... and a friend of mine palmed me off with a copy of LW instead to give me something to play with in the meantime.

Of course I sucked, and couldnt do much... and the honest truth is that after a few months of getting nowhere I shelled out for my own version just to get my hands on the manual so i could figure the damn thing out.

Funny how things work out.

SonicN2O
10-17-2010, 08:47 AM
No, I do not have a cracked copy of lightwave, and since this thread seems to be devoted to making me feel stupid, I'm closing it.

Cageman
10-17-2010, 09:42 AM
At this day and age, I have to say that if someone is using a cracked version of LW, he/she has clearly made a desicion to at least try to learn the application. With ADs marketing of all their brands, it must be hard to motivate someone to use LW, when they can download Maya, Max, XSI or Houdini... why download a tool like LW when those other, more advanced apps, are around?

Could it be that it is a concious choice in learning LW on a cracked copy because if he/she learns to master it, they know that they can afford it when the time comes?

Food for thought, I guess...

cresshead
10-17-2010, 10:17 AM
if you don't want to spend money on 3d software> Blender

OnlineRender
10-18-2010, 09:55 AM
devoted to making me feel stupid, I'm closing it.

chuckles . . . . . . . . " you got Mod privileges now ? " ROFL

NanoGator
10-18-2010, 10:28 AM
I can't believe the amount of jerkage going on in this thread.

littlewaves
10-18-2010, 04:22 PM
I've never seen a LightWave security dongle with the word "Sentinel" on it... has anyone else? Hmmmmmm... Didn't think so. Let me see... oh yes... that's because Sentinel doesn't make the hardware, just the security drivers for the locks.

Not sure if I've missing something here but yes my red USB dongle that came in the box when I bought a legit copy of lightwave from a reputable UK reseller has the word sentinel on it.

Also I play guitar as that seems to be of some currency here.

4dartist
10-18-2010, 04:30 PM
One of our dongles has "Sentinel" written on it. It looks like this (http://ssil.uoregon.edu/gis/how-to/dongledriver/dongle.gif), but with more red on it.

littlewaves
10-18-2010, 04:37 PM
So what did Hopper mean? Hopper ....?

Hopper....??

Skonk
10-18-2010, 04:51 PM
Interesting answer... Would anyone like to inform our guest as to why?

I've never seen a LightWave security dongle with the word "Sentinel" on it... has anyone else? Hmmmmmm... Didn't think so. Let me see... oh yes... that's because Sentinel doesn't make the hardware, just the security drivers for the locks.

Well... it's pretty much open season at this point. Do your worst.

EDIT: And to answer YOUR question as promised... Yes, I play guitar.

Just to confirm, as someone already mentioned, some dongles do indeed say Sentinal on them.

Pic attached.

EDIT:

As for the cracked software thing; i've always been of the opinion that people learning the app and not using it for anything commercial should have access to a non-crippled version of it at no cost.

The more people who learn to use the app, be it from a legit free source (Students can download and use 3D Studio Max for free for example) or a cracked version, the more legit sales later on when those people get jobs and convince their employers to buy a bunch of licenses or buy it themselves once they start earning.

The fact is software like this, even with educational discounts, is far more expensive than most kids/students/jobless people can afford and not letting them learn how to use it does nothing but lose potential sales later on.

The first time I used Lightwave was back in version 4 when a friend had bought a "dodgy cd" from the local market. I knew it was used in Babylon 5 which got my interest initially and then I had a play around with it and liked it......

The end result... I have since bought almost 40 licenses and use it on a daily basis with students, some of which will later buy it them selves.

ALso with Newtek's track record on producing working demo versions (in an age when students can get almost all of Autodesk's products for free for non-commercial use) it's not surprising people have to resort to piracy.

lardbros
10-18-2010, 05:10 PM
That's quite a nice looking little dongle!! Why is mine so big, ugly and purple? ;)

Skonk
10-18-2010, 05:16 PM
That's quite a nice looking little dongle!! Why is mine so big, ugly and purple? ;)

Heh.

I'll have to take a photo of my "dongle pouch" when I'm at work tomorrow.

And yes.. we do call it that :)

I've got a little black leather bag where I keep all our dongles when they're not in use (39 I think at last count); a lovely mix of red, purple and black ones.

lardbros
10-18-2010, 05:26 PM
Heh.

I'll have to take a photo of my "dongle pouch" when I'm at work tomorrow.

And yes.. we do call it that :)

I've got a little black leather bag where I keep all our dongles when they're not in use (39 I think at last count); a lovely mix of red, purple and black ones.

A pouch for dongles? Isn't that also known as a posing pouch? Ann Summers sell comedy ones too...

I have to see this leather dongle pouch... that is just too funny! :D

NanoGator
10-18-2010, 05:27 PM
*Edit: Sorry.

Titus
10-18-2010, 07:50 PM
My first dongle was a Video Toaster [2] card, a very expensive hardware lock for LW7. Then moved to this "Sentinel".

Amurrell
10-18-2010, 07:58 PM
Mine would have to be the purple "Rainbow Duo". Never realized they gave me the duo dongle until just now, and I've had the thing for years. Shows you how much I pay attention.

eagleeyed
10-18-2010, 10:05 PM
I have two dongles.

Red one which came with my educational version does say Sentinel Safenet Superpro.

Purple one for Full License says Rainbow Duo. I like the red one better, no point trying to sell the educational, wont sell for anything. :(

littlewaves
10-19-2010, 12:38 AM
so was the fact that SonicN2O said his dongle said Sentinel on it the ONLY reason he was labelled a thief using pirated software?

lardbros
10-19-2010, 06:17 AM
Mine would have to be the purple "Rainbow Duo". Never realized they gave me the duo dongle until just now, and I've had the thing for years. Shows you how much I pay attention.

Mine must be the same... I've still got the little sticker wrapped around it with my dongle lock ID on. :) It's got something in the plastic underneath, but I've never removed the sticker :)

Skonk
10-19-2010, 06:48 AM
so was the fact that SonicN2O said his dongle said Sentinel on it the ONLY reason he was labelled a thief using pirated software?

I think so.

SonicN20 has been very rude in a couple of posts which has obviously anoyed a lot of people and resulted in him getting replys where people are being short with him or poking a bit of fun.

But there hasn't really been any reasons to suggest he is using a pirated copy of the software and I think the "witch hunt" style post was a step too far really for most people.

SonicN2O
10-19-2010, 02:42 PM
Keep in mind that It's hard to tell someone's tone of voice when using text.
That doesn't excuse the fact that I HAVE been rude, though, and I apologize.
Nobody's perfect, and I have a bad case of POing people. I'm new to lightwave, and I'm sure many people can relate to being frustrated when they're new to CG.

P.S. Hopper, I don't know what you have against me, but I was hoping we could be friends, as I write music and play guitar.

oliversimonnet
10-19-2010, 03:04 PM
Keep in mind that It's hard to tell someone's tone of voice when using text.
That doesn't excuse the fact that I HAVE been rude, though, and I apologize.
Nobody's perfect, and I have a bad case of POing people. I'm new to lightwave, and I'm sure many people can relate to being frustrated when they're new to CG.

P.S. Hopper, I don't know what you have against me, but I was hoping we could be friends, as I write music and play guitar.

good man for apologizing.
i am sure from now one after apologizes have been given and received all around (not every one) :D and no one talks with an attitude that we will all get on.

after all the forms are made for helping one another. and the NT forms have a good reputation for its help and kindness.

now lets just forgive and forget now.

SonicN2O
10-19-2010, 03:23 PM
good man for apologizing.
i am sure from now one after apologizes have been given and received all around (not every one) :D and no one talks with an attitude that we will all get on.

after all the forms are made for helping one another. and the NT forms have a good reputation for its help and kindness.

now lets just forgive and forget now.

:agree:

SonicN2O
06-26-2011, 06:38 PM
Hopper you should have given more time for someone to press an answer out of him. There would be more evidence than a dodge of the question.

Although there is plenty of evidence for http://lmgtfy.com/?q=is+SonicN2O+prepubescent



Oh and

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+lightwave couldn't resist

Ummm... no, jerk.

SonicN2O
06-26-2011, 06:46 PM
No, I do not have a cracked copy of lightwave, and since this thread seems to be devoted to making me feel stupid, I'm closing it.

When I wrote the above, I thought anyone could close a thread, I apologize for my dumbness.

SBowie
06-27-2011, 05:10 AM
No Dumbasses AllowedIf only... ;)

SBowie
06-27-2011, 05:27 AM
As for the cracked software thing; i've always been of the opinion that people learning the app and not using it for anything commercial should have access to a non-crippled version of it at no cost.Personally, I think someone in that circumstance should be willing to graciously accept the free use of a version with a (reasonably discreet) watermark. As you're not using it for commercial work, rather just for learning and perhaps wanting to show something to your friends, common courtesy to the developer should suffice to justify a little relatively unobtrusive advertising in your output.


When I wrote the above, I thought anyone could close a thread, I apologize for my dumbness.Not just anyone can, but I can, and will. Let's make a fresh start with improved courtesy and professionalism all around, shall we? (And by the way ... my joining in on the quip about "NDA" was not poking fun at present company; rather, merely a playful reflection on more than a decade of beta experience.)