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blukazs
08-04-2010, 03:23 PM
Hi, I`m 20 years old and I am studying graphics, i wanna choose animation as my faculty, thats i need a great 3d animation app:D. My question is: Lightwave, is it worth?

Well, actually I used many 3d apps, now stuck with maya but... I cant learn it anymore, its like medicine. O.o Also viewport performance is really low, it crashes very often, it uses a lot of resources and... hell yeah its the most expensive!

3ds max... i'm just not too comfortable with it.. although its on directx since version 9 and i can get 14 mln of polys in the viewport and its useable!! [maya runs unacceptable with only 1,5mln]
Played also a bit with softimage, it has the best viewport performance, [18 mln of polys with about 5fps] but i just don like it...

I`m a total beginner to LW,but i`m considering to switch to it. I`m using a wacom tablet all the time and... when i lunch Modeler, everything is fine, but in Layout, when i move the pen everything spins like crazy... Why is that?? Is there somewhere an option to turn on/off to get it work? Also what is strange... cant i import .obj files to LW?? I know LW has a great modeler, but i love zsphere and zsketch in zbrush so i would like to be able to load it later to LW to rig and animate it.
Next... :D Is LW intuitive and easy to learn?? I've read somewhere that maya's forum isn't helpfull... well thats true:/ but they've also written that LW forum is very helpfull ^^

And lastly, I understand that LW 10 CORE is an integriation of Layout and Modeler into one enviorement??. Also great is LW mac version as I wanna switch from windows X_x... and I love the clean/simple UI.
Thanks for every anwser in advance! :D

Soth
08-04-2010, 03:33 PM
LW great to learn and to buy but maya will give you more job offers. Szczegolnie w Polsce, choc i tak wszyscy uzywaja tu 3dstudio.

Regarding tablet settings hit 'o' second option on the top is tablet. You need to be careful when selecting too, even small cursor movement will be recognised as animating not selecting.

You will be able to load ZBrush models with no problem, there is a lot of guides/tutorials how to do it.

CORE I think will pick up modeler first and some parts of layout, but we all here not really sure yet how good CORE will be and when will come in full glory.

best place to start is here: http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/tutorials.php That should keep you busy for a week, then go for dan alban or larry shulz tutorials, I like them most. ;)

Best luck!
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blukazs
08-04-2010, 03:50 PM
No proszę, wszędzie pełno polaków:D I know i know... maya/max well i dont wanna stay in poland XD Tablet works! I also just read about Lukazs Pazera on CG society and he was in the same animation workshop as I am now :D And he used LW a lot, also programming! But he uses modo now??

Soth
08-04-2010, 04:02 PM
ive talked to him last month and he gave up 3d.. just drawing mate painting now, said is much less stressful :)

oliversimonnet
08-04-2010, 05:07 PM
hello
personally, i think LW is brilliant and really user friendly.
when i 1st started, 1st tutorials i watched were the ones by William Vaughan (http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/24hours_training.php) and he shows you the basics of i think all of the tools in LW just about, i definitely recommend them.
after downloading all of them and putting them on a CD i went http://www.simplylightwave.com/
so if you decide to start using LW i recommend thos 2 links :)

ooh: and the NewTek forums are most certainly helpful and friendly. they have helped me out a lot :)

wesleycorgi
08-04-2010, 05:23 PM
You may have to dig a little bit, but there are plenty of great free (and paid) resources out there.

Preset central: http://www.presetcentral.com/
Flay (Plugins, tutorials, etc.): http://www.flay.com/
Tutorials: http://members.shaw.ca/lightwavetutorials%20/Main_Menu.htm
LW Plugin Database: http://www.lwplugindb.com/
More plugins: http://dpont.pagesperso-orange.fr/main_en.htm
Video tutorials: http://www.vfxcast.com/c/1/NewTek_LightWave_3D/
International LW UG (run by Wes @ Kurv): http://www.ilwug.com/
Kurv Studios (frequently has lot of free webinars plus paid training videos): http://www.kurvstudios.com/
Liberty 3d (variety of 3D/LW resources): http://www.liberty3d.com/

OlaHaldor
08-04-2010, 05:56 PM
When I first started with LW, I didn't care about modeling. I could always find free models anywhere, and I started working with LW Layout exclusively. This way I learned my way through rendering and basic animation and camera work.

Then I was bored with that, and jumped into modeling. Mainly structures and such. Thus I went ahead and bought LWCAD upgrade (my purchase of LW had LWCAD bundled with it).

Can't tell you enough how much that tool is worth. I don't model anything without LWCAD. I feel completely naked if I can't use those tools.

wesleycorgi
08-04-2010, 06:13 PM
Yes, LWCad is a great plug-in with great support from the developer.

Dexter2999
08-04-2010, 06:14 PM
Blender has some nice features including and editor and compositor...and it's free.

It can compliment LW nicely in some reguards.

Intuition
08-04-2010, 06:16 PM
When I first started with LW, I didn't care about modeling. I could always find free models anywhere, and I started working with LW Layout exclusively. This way I learned my way through rendering and basic animation and camera work.

Then I was bored with that, and jumped into modeling. Mainly structures and such. Thus I went ahead and bought LWCAD upgrade (my purchase of LW had LWCAD bundled with it).

Can't tell you enough how much that tool is worth. I don't model anything without LWCAD. I feel completely naked if I can't use those tools.

Yeah LWCAD is probably the single reason to keep modeler alive. Unless Core can get that same level of awesomeness.

blukazs
08-05-2010, 02:47 AM
Well, thanks!! That's a nice supriseto see so many replyies:D Thank you for the links, we'll see :D
Blender was my first 3d app ^.^ yeah it is nice... XD actually its getting nice:/

Drocket
08-05-2010, 03:12 AM
Yeah LWCAD is probably the single reason to keep modeler alive. Unless Core can get that same level of awesomeness.

And we know from Viktors posts he is doing a version of LWCAD for core (once core is released) which is a free update for version 3 users :)

Dreamcube017
08-05-2010, 08:52 AM
When I first saw Lightwave I didn't think the UI was THAT great, but what I love about lightwave is that there are plenty of video tutorials and free resources to help you get started and running right away. I started playing with the demo some time ago and within about an hour, I could already do some simple modeling and rendering.

Plus it's cheaper than the other products... and hey, if large studios can use it, so can you.

And yaeh I've tried 3DS and Maya. 3DS is powerful... but kind of confusing and the free resources I've seen for that aren't all that great compared to lightwave. It's as if NewTek were saying, "We REALLY want you to use our software, look at all the things it's made." but everyone says that, so then they follow it up by saying, "Look, here's a 30 day trial, and we know you've only got 30 days and we REALLY want you to use it, so here's a ton of free tutorials for you to get started doing some complex things quickly." Hey... isn't there slogan, "get things done" and that'sexactly what happens.

Maybe the two best things about lightwave as a software
1. lots of great help and free and cheap resources to get you going.
2. it's used on a lot of professional industry standard movies, games, and TV shows.

You don't normally get the two hand in hand. So this is great, sure maybe there are some bugs here and there, but if they can do it, so can I (with the help of the resources of course)

GraphXs
08-05-2010, 10:24 PM
LW is IMO overall is a great package. Somethings are more tedious than others, but that goes the same in other apps. The future of LW seems very bright with v10 starting off some nice additional features for Layout/Modeler and the start of Core.

Great Community, wonderful plugins like LW Cad, the new Turbulence Fluids, Rebill Rigger, TrueArts plugin's and Worley Labs. I use LW everyday at work and bring it into our Max pipeline. Also looking forward for LW10 to allow more easy sharing between LW and Autodesk. Well worth it!