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prometheus
07-28-2010, 05:53 AM
Im about to upgrade a few monitors at work, Im having a samsung syncmaster 2233 here, itīs workable and okey, but viewing angles for correct contrast and colors could have been better.

thereīs an ad campaign for the DELL U2311H ULTRASHARP 23" WIDE TFT BLACK and I was thinking of one or two of those.

it sells for 343,4$

Im abit concerned over the little low resolution thou, max is 1920x1080
and at home I got a samsung 2493 HM with 1920x1200, but that monitor
has died on me, probably faulty powersupply.
so Im not keen on getting any more samsungs for the moment.

would you recomend this monitor, itīs an ips panel and respons time 8 ms wich might be a little negative.

Michael

biliousfrog
07-28-2010, 06:34 AM
I've got a 24" 2408WFP and it's a brilliant monitor, I wouldn't use anything other than Dell Ultrasharp's from now on. They're the only monitors that have a complete zero dead pixel guarantee...other's, such as Samsung, are only valid in certain countries under certain conditions (ie. within a certain distance apart). They can be titled, lifted, rotated 90 degrees, have loads of connection options and include a card reader and USB hub.

It seems a bit silly going for 23", get 24" for 1920x1200 resolution.

Response times are mostly a marketing gimick. They can mean black to white, white to black, grey to grey...almost anything.

IPS panels are great, Mine is only S-PVA but it is still beautiful to look at and looks like a printed image from even very wide angles.

Matt
07-28-2010, 07:36 AM
I bought this one a while back:

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/22-Dell-2209WA-Black-High-Quality-E-IPS-Gaming-Screen-Widescreen-2ms-DVI-VGA-1680x1050-10001

It's been great, better than I hoped, no dead pixels, USB dock on the side is very handy, as my Wacom Bamboo plugs into it meaning the wire is more out of the way than if it ran back to the PC. The colour and viewing angle is pretty decent considering the price, no noticeable lag on FPS games either, which I had with the 24" S-PVA Dell I sent back.

In hindsight a slighty larger res' would have been good though, 1920 x 1080 is okay, but I think I'd rather go up if I bought a new monitor, but not to insane levels, being a pixel alignment obsessive, I need to see the little buggers!

:D

prometheus
07-28-2010, 08:28 AM
thanks billiousfrog..

Yeah I was looking at 2408WFP too, I have to check the price thou, itīs
the companys money so I have to keep that in mind, but
I might get it for myself if the 2408wfp is a much better choice.

Matt..yeah Im thinking twice again here, maybe we should get the higher resolution anyway here at work, Im also in a need to see those pixels and
working with illustrator daily doing information signs on gym machines probably will benifit having the bigger res, apart all the other pixel pushing in 3d.

Michael

ken_g9
07-28-2010, 08:40 AM
I've got the 2408WFP as well and it's sweet. I agree with the Dell Ultrasharp comment. They're really good.

The DELL U2311H is also nice though, being an IPS panel. I think the trend now are the 23" IPS panels. NEC released one recently as well. 1920 x 1080.

prometheus
07-28-2010, 08:49 AM
hmm..maybe u2410 might be of interest too..
thatīs an ips panel type..

donīt now about the main difference from the 2408 va panel type thou.

Michael

biliousfrog
07-28-2010, 10:57 AM
IPS panels are better, more even colour and better viewing angles. I'm really happy with my 2408 but I'll get an updated IPS model to replace my current one.

prometheus
07-29-2010, 05:06 AM
ive just got an ok to place an order for a u2410 monitor, so ill choose that
before the u2311 monitor, double the price thou.

Now thereīs a question regarding the color depth, 1070 milj against the lower 16.7 milj for the u2311 monitor.

One might question if the human eye would percieve that color briliance, since human eye canīt percieve more than 10 milj anyway?
Perhaps there might be a difference when it comes to certain greyscales or
certain color spectrums?

And can this u2410 really show that color brilliance with a geforce gtx 480 card? the card has only 16.7 milj anyway?



Michael

Cougar12dk
07-29-2010, 05:36 AM
I just bought a BenQ 24" LED (G2420HDBL) with a contrast ratio of 5.000.000:1 and a price tag of around 325$ and let me tell you: It's ciriiisP! (crisp for short :-) )

prometheus
07-29-2010, 05:41 AM
I just bought a BenQ 24" LED (G2420HDBL) with a contrast ratio of 5.000.000:1 and a price tag of around 325$ and let me tell you: It's ciriiisP! (crisp for short :-) )

Yeah that one has gotten good recomendations all over, still itīs a tn
panel with low viewing angle specifications.
doing image editing, and graphics works might be worth to invest in better monitors thou.
the samsung syncmaster 2233 we have now doesnīt provide good viewing angles and itīs hard sometimes to see contrast and colors properly
for the work I do.

Michael

Cougar12dk
07-29-2010, 05:47 AM
That's not true at all (regarding the viewing angles). I can view the screen from 175+ degrees....from both top and the sides.....

And who the heck works that way anyway?? :)

Fact of the matter is, it's a very good monitor.

prometheus
07-29-2010, 05:56 AM
That's not true at all (regarding the viewing angles). I can view the screen from 175+ degrees....from both top and the sides.....

And who the heck works that way anyway?? :)

Fact of the matter is, it's a very good monitor.

Good is relative, depends on needs and your demands.

what do you mean not true at all? I can only tell you that if youre not
having your eyes lined up straight in front of the part of the screen your
looking at you will get wrong contrast and colors the more away the angle are, maybe benq tn panel has something that other tn panels donīt have.

put it agains an apple cinedisplay or some other higher end monitor and Im sure you will see a difference.
of course if you sit a long way from the monitor you will probably get the whole screen focused in a more narrowed angle as
oppose to sit very close ..wich I do.

what monitor else did you use before and compare benq too?

Edit.....
and yeah..benq is a good monitor for that price range I hear that.
and leds provides great sharpness.


Michael

prometheus
07-29-2010, 06:15 AM
I just read a swedish review that said that the viewing angle on the benq g2420 was a disaster on the hight length.

put a single color background on your computer or some test images and check it carefully.

it has many good reviews otherwise, good for gaming and watching movies at least.

MICHAEL

biliousfrog
07-29-2010, 06:19 AM
This will show just how good (or not) your monitor is: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/

I haven't seen a TN panel yet that remains constant across the screen. They've certainly got better but an IPS and, to a lesser extent, S-PVA panel is almost like viewing a printed image in comparison. I can't wait for OLED to really take off.

Something which you'll notice with the wider gamut is that gradients are smoother...there's essentially more information available between black and white. It can cause issues when working with certain applications in a very colour critical job but I haven't found it to be a problem.

Cougar12dk
07-29-2010, 06:46 AM
Good is relative, depends on needs and your demands.

what do you mean not true at all? I can only tell you that if youre not
having your eyes lined up straight in front of the part of the screen your
looking at you will get wrong contrast and colors the more away the angle are, maybe benq tn panel has something that other tn panels donīt have.

put it agains an apple cinedisplay or some other higher end monitor and Im sure you will see a difference.
of course if you sit a long way from the monitor you will probably get the whole screen focused in a more narrowed angle as
oppose to sit very close ..wich I do.

what monitor else did you use before and compare benq too?

Edit.....
and yeah..benq is a good monitor for that price range I hear that.
and leds provides great sharpness.


Michael

I'm speaking as a home user who does not need super-duper, best of the line-beyond-infinity monitor. So in THAT regard, it IS a VERY good monitor.

[EDIT] I'm not trying to start an argument or anything here. I am just very happy about my new monitor ;) [EDIT]

prometheus
07-30-2010, 02:13 AM
I'm speaking as a home user who does not need super-duper, best of the line-beyond-infinity monitor. So in THAT regard, it IS a VERY good monitor.

[EDIT] I'm not trying to start an argument or anything here. I am just very happy about my new monitor ;) [EDIT]

Of course you are..

Im sitting here at work waiting for the dell u2410 to show up, itīs on its way and should be here within a couple of hours.

as you said regarding home uses, this syncmaster 2233 isnīt a bad monitor for a home user, sharpness and colors are nice and contrast etc, its just viewing angles that disturbs me when im looking at parts on top
of the screen and bottom of the screen, and itīs especially hard too see things properly when it is dark parts.
Now I mean I can see images, so itīs not that they vanish or so, but the
colors and contrast arenīt correct at those viewing angles, so Youīll get fooled by those colors.
Ill let you know when I can compare the monitors.

Michael

prometheus
08-03-2010, 07:12 AM
Well.. Ivé been using our new dell 2410 monitor for two days now, and I like it.

I found that Im no longer are twisting and turning my body and head due to difficulties to see colors and contrast properly as before with the samsung syncmaster 2233.

The overall feel and design is solid, not the same plastic feel as with the samsung, itīs clean matt surface on the hard plastic wich feels more robust than samsungs, and the stand is a mix of hard plastic and solid iron for the main stand.

the control panel buttons are just to the right and almost invisible until touching them, upon they are lit up and also giving a sound beep.

I wasnīt a fan of touch buttons on my samsung at home since i couldnt
see them on that model, and they were missing leds, but this is how it should be done.

At first I became a little scared, since Ive heard about green tinting complaints, and that is what I first noticed, but this screen is tested and calibrated to match industry standard, so itīs nothing wrong with the monitor, You can adjust the all the custom colors of course and I simply switched from standard preset to Adobe rgb preset wich turned out fine.

I need another computer, wich should arrive soon, then Ill compare them next to each other.
So far looking good.

Michael