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TheDeacon
07-02-2010, 12:14 PM
ANNOUNCEMENT HERE (http://newtek.com/siggraph_10/)



let the speculation .. BEGIN!

evolross
07-02-2010, 02:10 PM
Has bullet physics dynamics been rolled into CORE yet? I would be really impressed to see demos of that at SIGGRAPH.

Nicolas Jordan
07-02-2010, 02:20 PM
I predict Rob Powers will talk extensively about Lightwaves use on Avatar at Siggraph. I will be very surprised if this does not happen. :D I am really looking forward to watching the Siggraph videos that are traditionally put up for those of us who are unable to attend.

Could one of the "super-secret celebrity visitors from film and television" be Mr Van Dyke?

GraphXs
07-02-2010, 03:20 PM
Can't wait to be there! Should be a great show!

calilifestyle
07-02-2010, 03:59 PM
I hope i get my iron man toy this time. since they ran out last time. lol

Matt
07-02-2010, 04:07 PM
Nice tidy SIGGY page NT, are you gonna be streaming live this year? Please tell me you are.

Nicolas Jordan
07-02-2010, 06:11 PM
Nice tidy SIGGY page NT, are you gonna be streaming live this year? Please tell me you are.

That would be nice and modern for a change instead of having to wait weeks for the videos to be posted 1 or 2 at a time.

Vincenzo
07-02-2010, 07:50 PM
I will be there demoing my stuff. Are there gonna be any parties?

andrew_y
07-02-2010, 09:08 PM
http://tv.newtek.com/ will be the outlet for any siggraph related videos - front page, need not register, free for all. As for live streaming, I don't have that information yet, sorry.

Twisted_Pixel
07-02-2010, 10:00 PM
So glad I am treating myself to a trip this year, looking forward to putting faces to lots of names on here :)

Will Graham Toms be about at the show, would be nice to meet a Newtek'r from good ol' Nor'n Iron :)

Twisted_Pixel
07-02-2010, 10:10 PM
Out of curiosity does the Exhibit Pass, offer any more access than the "Computer Animation Festival" pass would achieve?

nickdigital
07-02-2010, 10:41 PM
Out of curiosity does the Exhibit Pass, offer any more access than the "Computer Animation Festival" pass would achieve?

Does this help?
http://www.siggraph.org/s2010/for_attendees/registration/registration_categories

Twisted_Pixel
07-02-2010, 10:46 PM
Thanks, probably should have gone digging there myself :)

Matt
07-04-2010, 01:12 AM
http://tv.newtek.com/ will be the outlet for any siggraph related videos

Much better page than before!

kevman3d
07-04-2010, 01:54 AM
Well, hope to catch up with more people this time - the first time 2004 I met a pile of people. 2007 I caught up well, almost nobody (cause it was pretty quiet) .

Oh well, should be cool this year - LA is always cool and really buzzing!

Nicolas Jordan
07-05-2010, 10:48 AM
I have thought about it a bit more and I think James Cameron could be one of the secret celebrity appearances at the Newtek booth. How likely do you guys think this is? It makes sense to me since Rob Powers is now working for Newtek and he has the James Cameron connection. If my guess turns out to be true this would be very cool! :) I'm [utting my money on Mr Cameron.

robertoortiz
07-05-2010, 11:09 AM
I am willing to bet cash that SIGGRAPH 2010 will be an Avatar lovefest, and every company under the sun will spotlight the work their tool did on the film.

Anyway I do hope to meet some of you this year.
Just look for the guy wearing a red Nationals Baseball Cap.
-R

Nicolas Jordan
07-05-2010, 11:28 AM
I am willing to bet cash that SIGGRAPH 2010 will be an Avatar lovefest, and every company under the sun will spotlight the work their tool did on the film.

-R

Yes that's probably going to be very true. He who has the biggest "Avatar lovefest" wins! :D

Nicolas Jordan
07-09-2010, 06:23 PM
This http://www.newtek.com/pressrelease.php?viewpr=160 hints at Dick Van Dyke and James Cameron appearances even more now. I am looking forward to see how they plan to demo this Core stuff.

Matt
07-09-2010, 07:50 PM
I am willing to bet cash that SIGGRAPH 2010 will be an Avatar lovefest, and every company under the sun will spotlight the work their tool did on the film.

Yup! But we got Rob in our camp! :)

Titus
07-09-2010, 10:28 PM
This http://www.newtek.com/pressrelease.php?viewpr=160 hints at Dick Van Dyke and James Cameron appearances even more now.

I doubt it's Cameron, but in any case I'll be there in front row :D.

evolross
07-10-2010, 12:29 AM
The press release mentions the Bullet Rigid Body Dynamics system... maybe we will see some demos of that after all. Not being a HARDCORE member, I'm not in the know of what's currently in the latest test release.

And I'm going to be there one day. Not sure which one yet, as I can only get one day off work.

-EsHrA-
07-10-2010, 04:00 AM
one of the biggest gatherings, a company based largely on streaming video products not streaming amazes me.

mlon

jwiede
07-10-2010, 05:42 AM
I'd really love to go, but haven't decided yet whether I can (project deadlines at work). Anyone seen any good deals on nearby places to stay (as I presume the Westin's a lost cause in that regard, ACM member or not), in case I do go?

Kuzey
07-10-2010, 05:59 AM
Speaking of Dick Van Dyke....does anyone know if he has a online gallery, I'm curious to see what kind images he makes with LW :D

Kuzey

Nicolas Jordan
07-10-2010, 07:07 AM
Speaking of Dick Van Dyke....does anyone know if he has a online gallery, I'm curious to see what kind images he makes with LW :D

Kuzey

I don't think he has any online gallery but if you want to see some of his work you can see it in this Siggraph 2004 video of him onstage at the Lightwave booth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1J9kfDCAmU.

Titus
07-10-2010, 07:42 AM
one of the biggest gatherings, a company based largely on streaming video products not streaming amazes me.

mlon

It depend of your target. Video streaming matters if they are at NAB, at SIGGRAPH you need to show your products in different ways. Even SIGGRAPH TV ended their streaming years ago.

Lewis
07-10-2010, 03:00 PM
http://tv.newtek.com/ will be the outlet for any siggraph related videos - front page, need not register, free for all. As for live streaming, I don't have that information yet, sorry.

So we need to REGISTER to be able to watch videos (wen they arrive later). Or did i get that wrong ?

andrew_y
07-10-2010, 04:30 PM
So we need to REGISTER to be able to watch videos (wen they arrive later). Or did i get that wrong ?

You got that wrong.

Every thing is free.

you only need to register if:


You feel like it
You want to watch a live webinar.


Siggraph videos will appear on the front page of tv.newtek.com.

The benefits to registering are,


allows you to download the video
rate videos, and
create your own playlist (bookmarks)


In the near future we will be creating a "Training" section in tv.newtek.com - A place that contains all training videos. You'll still be able to view them without registering... however, if the video has assets associated with it, then registration would be required to download those assets, which of course, is free anyway.

oliversimonnet
07-10-2010, 05:40 PM
aa ok that sounds good then:)
im looking forward to seeing the videos :)

Kuzey
07-11-2010, 05:09 AM
I don't think he has any online gallery but if you want to see some of his work you can see it in this Siggraph 2004 video of him onstage at the Lightwave booth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1J9kfDCAmU.

Thanks Nicolas :D

I just got an idea, will Dick demo Core this time around...that would be interesting to see :thumbsup:

Kuzey

Lewis
07-11-2010, 12:13 PM
In the near future we will be creating a "Training" section in tv.newtek.com - A place that contains all training videos. You'll still be able to view them without registering... however, if the video has assets associated with it, then registration would be required to download those assets, which of course, is free anyway.

Ahh ok that's more clear then, it sounded weird to me since i can watch videos now so i wondered why i would register then :). as for downloading there is many way to download videos online without registration so no problem there.

thanks

Red_Oddity
07-12-2010, 03:14 AM
We got selected for the Computer Animation Festival part, yay, too bad none of us are going, too short notice, just had Annecy and jobs are piling up (which is a good thing off course.)

realgray
07-13-2010, 12:11 PM
NewTek to show new version of LightWave 3D

http://www.3dworldmag.com/page/3dworld?entry=siggraph_2010_newtek_to_show&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

colkai
07-14-2010, 03:25 AM
Hmm, wonder if we'll get to see something here before then or only after SIGGRAPH?

archijam
07-14-2010, 03:31 AM
RedOdd - CONGRATS! Thanks awesome. House of secrets rock :)


Colkai - if by here you mean the HC forums .. yes.

It would be stilly to release publicly earlier than siggraph.
Isn't that kinda the point of siggy? Announcing stuff?

evolross
07-14-2010, 08:47 PM
RedOdd - CONGRATS! Thanks awesome. House of secrets rock :)
Yes, I must say the House of Secrets reel ROCKS! Great work... very inspiring, in the midst of a really long, hard CG project, your reel made me remember why I love VFX.

Red_Oddity
07-15-2010, 01:19 AM
Thanks guys, the Klik! trailer was selected, really funny to see your own work in a list between FX behemoths like the Mill, Framestore, Digital Domain, Blur ,etc.

archijam
07-15-2010, 03:07 AM
.. indeed, that segment with the zombies hanging from hot air balloons in the dutch landscape always makes me sentimental ...

walfridson
07-15-2010, 05:41 AM
No streaming? :(

erikals
07-15-2010, 08:30 PM
one of the biggest gatherings, a company based largely on streaming video products not streaming amazes me.

mlon

Welcome to NT marketing!
(sorry NT, but you deserved that one...) http://erikalstad.com/backup/anims.php_files/2guns.gif :2guns:

anyway,... http://newtek.com/siggraph_10 and http://tv.newtek.com looks pretty good...


...

radams
07-15-2010, 09:54 PM
Hi all,

To be fair...most of these conventions have horrible bandwidth issues for streaming...NT most likely will post some videos when they get a chance...but if they don't stream LIVE...it is to give better presence at the convention...and then make viable streams that they can post for later viewing by anyone at any time.

Cheers,

erikals
07-15-2010, 11:20 PM
the ones i've seen elsewhere have been pretty good.
and it's not like they can't, as that was the intention on the reveal of Core...

but i agree, if they can't do it, then they shouldn't.

anyway, let's hope for a good Siggy... :]

akademus
07-16-2010, 01:31 AM
So, the whole news is that NT is going to be on Siggraph... Is not much of a news you know, it'll be if there is any announcement....

calilifestyle
07-16-2010, 05:06 PM
Any word if they will be broadcasting the event. i know i'm there on the 28th but i cant sit at Nt booth all day lol

Titus
07-16-2010, 09:01 PM
So, is Jim Cameraman confirmed yet?

Nicolas Jordan
07-17-2010, 10:03 AM
So, is Jim Cameraman confirmed yet?

I bet they will confirm him very soon! I can't see who else the mystery guest would be.

Philbert
07-17-2010, 04:35 PM
I don't know about Cameron. According to Rob he didn't really have much interest in what software was used to make the VAD environments.


I don't think he has any online gallery but if you want to see some of his work you can see it in this Siggraph 2004 video of him onstage at the Lightwave booth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1J9kfDCAmU.

I'm in part 2 of that video. :)

Dexter2999
07-17-2010, 07:13 PM
Honestly, I personally would be more excited about seeing Gregg Mutt at the Newtek Booth. Maybe via "webcam" on the imag? Would be awesome!

Philbert
07-17-2010, 07:20 PM
That would be a good idea.

Nicolas Jordan
07-17-2010, 10:09 PM
I don't know about Cameron. According to Rob he didn't really have much interest in what software was used to make the VAD environments.

I figure they might just get him on stage for a bit to talk about the production of Avatar in more general terms while Rob will probably talk more specifically about some of 3D software used on Avatar including Lightwave.

calilifestyle
07-17-2010, 11:13 PM
any word on 3d coat being there this time around. would be nice if they hook him up

Nicolas Jordan
07-17-2010, 11:26 PM
any word on 3d coat being there this time around. would be nice if they hook him up

Ya, I heard 3d coat will be there this year!

erikals
07-18-2010, 04:08 AM
Ya, I heard 3d coat will be there this year!

Very Cool http://erikalstad.com/backup/anims.php_files/smile.gif
hope to buy it one day... http://erikalstad.com/backup/anims.php_files/smile.gif

Philbert
07-18-2010, 04:48 AM
any word on 3d coat being there this time around. would be nice if they hook him up

Yes Pilgway's booth will be along the wall just a few booths down from NewTek's. There will be free T-Shirts for those who buy at the convention!
http://www.3d-coat.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=5789&view=findpost&p=45964

Titus
07-18-2010, 08:34 AM
I remember the times when t-shirts were free.

Philbert
07-18-2010, 08:42 AM
Perhaps from huge companies. Not so much from a single person. Of course some companies offer a free T-shirt with purchase and never send it.

Hieron
07-18-2010, 12:50 PM
*chuckle*

D-OS
07-22-2010, 11:42 AM
Cant wait, I will be there!

Vincenzo
07-22-2010, 05:45 PM
Anyone know of some interesting Siggraph parties?

Philbert
07-22-2010, 05:59 PM
I'm still just wondering if I can go.

phillydee
07-22-2010, 06:52 PM
Perhaps from huge companies. Not so much from a single person. Of course some companies offer a free T-shirt with purchase and never send it.

couple of years back I walked by SynthEyes booth, and there was Mr. Anderssen (I think that's how he spells it) passing out towelettes with doggie paw prints on it. Slogan went something like, "something dirty? Syntheyes makes cleaning easy!" Thought it was pretty clever, and commendable he was out and about pushing his product.

Philbert
07-22-2010, 06:55 PM
That's a nice idea. Apparently in Japan is very common to see people handing out small packs of tissues on the street with an advertisement on them. Similar idea I guess.

phillydee
07-22-2010, 10:04 PM
That's a nice idea. Apparently in Japan is very common to see people handing out small packs of tissues on the street with an advertisement on them. Similar idea I guess.

Yeh, Shimbashi station. One stop after TOKYO. You exit anywhere out of the station and you end up with about 22 tissue packs in your pockets and hands. Unreal. It's even funnier when the weather is cold, and several of the tissue givers are wearing flu-masks... you really begin to wonder then.

Red_Oddity
07-23-2010, 03:51 AM
Yeh, Shimbashi station. One stop after TOKYO. You exit anywhere out of the station and you end up with about 22 tissue packs in your pockets and hands. Unreal. It's even funnier when the weather is cold, and several of the tissue givers are wearing flu-masks... you really begin to wonder then.

I remember yeah, i still wonder what the use was giving those things to us gaijins, since we didn't read or speak a word Japanese.

Man, i really want to go on Holiday to Japan again

Matt
07-23-2010, 06:19 AM
If JC was on NT's stand that indeed would be one helluva nice bit of marketing!

(And I would imagine a lot down to Rob if so)

Kuzey
07-23-2010, 06:31 AM
If JC was on NT's stand that indeed would be one helluva nice bit of marketing!

(And I would imagine a lot down to Rob if so)

Haha...users of other software programs, would say it was not the real JC...just an impersonator :hey:

Kuzey

Cageman
07-24-2010, 09:16 AM
Haha...users of other software programs, would say it was not the real JC...just an impersonator :hey:

Kuzey

...or simply pointing out the fact that Previs isn't as cool as working on the final stuff. And, again, LW will be regarded as something "only" used as a previs tool.

:)

erikals
07-26-2010, 02:52 AM
Siggraph videos will appear on the front page of tv.newtek.com

http://erikalstad.com/backup/anims.php_files/lwicon.gif
an impatient waver here... :]

Matt
07-26-2010, 03:04 AM
...or simply pointing out the fact that Previs isn't as cool as working on the final stuff. And, again, LW will be regarded as something "only" used as a previs tool.

:)

I've heard some people start talking about "final pixels" (on screen) as if they are somehow more important than any of the pre-vis, vis, or any other part that helps the film making process.

It's all about the glory of "final pixels".

Quite sad really.

erikals
07-26-2010, 03:47 AM
"final pixels"
hmm... :]

i can understand it to a certain degree, but it doesn't really matter,
as Lightwave already has a great render engine.

one of the newer LW renders,...
http://www.newtek.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1040502#post1040502
(ignore my FP render)

Matt
07-26-2010, 06:30 AM
Is there a schedule of when NewTek TV will be hosting videos from SIGGRAPH, I can't find anything unless I missed it.

SBowie
07-26-2010, 06:41 AM
It's all about the glory of "final pixels".Given that 3D renders are more often than not run through compositing software before 'final pixels', I guess none of the 3D apps will be able to brag, then.

Kuzey
07-26-2010, 06:54 AM
...or simply pointing out the fact that Previs isn't as cool as working on the final stuff. And, again, LW will be regarded as something "only" used as a previs tool.

:)

At least, they can't claim it was 100% done in Maya :)

I followed that long thread on the topic, and the impression I got....was that many of the models made it to the final render and were above previs quality. Another impression, was that without LW, the production would have taken a lot longer to finish.

What I never got to find out is, what the other companies actually did with the LW high quality objects they got. Did they just change a few texture maps...or did they rebuild the models from scratch in Maya, when they were already built and ready to go.

It's all interesting to me....:hey:

Kuzey

erikals
07-26-2010, 07:02 AM
Kuzey, my guess it's the other way around,
highres models were modeled in ZB/MB then downresed and brought into LW.

Kuzey
07-26-2010, 07:09 AM
Ah...yes...Zbrush :D

I presumed characters were either made in Zbrush or tweaked in it....to add detail and what not, but....I thought all the environments/plants were done in LW.

Kuzey

erikals
07-26-2010, 07:31 AM
environments/plants could be anything, but i have a button on Maya or Vue, and possibly some other tree/plant apps. no reason to only use 1 app :]

Kuzey
07-26-2010, 07:40 AM
True...true...I was just trying to picture..SplineGod and the other members of Rob's team...using Zbrush as part of the work flow :D

Kuzey

erikals
07-26-2010, 07:52 AM
no, doubt it, hm, found some info... :]
looks like Jordu Schell did it,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6ZNzYSsLGI

archijam
07-26-2010, 08:20 AM
Best ever siggraph paper:

http://www.graphics.stanford.edu/~niloy/research/camouflage/camouflage_images_sig_10.html

It has CATS ;)

http://www.graphics.stanford.edu/~niloy/research/camouflage/paper_docs/rst1_a.jpg


..


Mike posted a nice link to most of the Sigg 2010 papers on the web:

http://kesen.realtimerendering.com/sig2010.html

archijam
07-26-2010, 08:27 AM
Nice!

http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~wojtan/thin_fluid_features/thin_fluid_features.html

and another paper (same team):

http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~wojtan/surface_tension/surface_tension.html

.. now that's fluid.

erikals
07-26-2010, 08:57 AM
looks good, but a bit slimey... maybe they can make something in between?

zarti
07-26-2010, 09:10 AM
Nice!

http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~wojtan/thin_fluid_features/thin_fluid_features.html

and another paper (same team):

http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~wojtan/surface_tension/surface_tension.html

.. now that's fluid.

small and beautiful details ( esp. those point drops ) ... really nice :jam:

the caustics isn't bad too ... =P

Philbert
07-26-2010, 11:30 AM
I just noticed something funny. If you look at the Siggraph floorplan here:
http://www.newtek.com/siggraph_10/

You'll notice first of course that NT has marked where their booth is, which is expected, but then I laughed when I realized there's a "lower third" type banner covering over the entire autodesk booth (as well as some others).

Nicolas Jordan
07-26-2010, 11:53 AM
I just noticed something funny. If you look at the Siggraph floorplan here:
http://www.newtek.com/siggraph_10/

You'll notice first of course that NT has marked where their booth is, which is expected, but then I laughed when I realized there's a "lower third" type banner covering over the entire autodesk booth (as well as some others).

That's pretty funny! This was likely done on purpose since a banners usually goes at the top of the page but in this case it conveniently covers up some competitors booths. :D

Twisted_Pixel
07-26-2010, 02:15 PM
If any of the ones floating around Siggraph fancy meeting up with a lowly hobbiest, feel free to send me a message.

For ease of identifying...http://www.facebook.com/hex4753

caesar
07-26-2010, 08:52 PM
Lightwave 10 will be announced in Sigraph! http://www.newtek.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1040813#post1040813

gristle
07-26-2010, 09:37 PM
http://www.cgchannel.com/2010/07/lightwave-10-announced/

Matt
07-27-2010, 03:29 AM
"I see you", "I see you!"

Well, actually, I don't. When can we see some videos?

;)

-EsHrA-
07-27-2010, 04:53 AM
honestly....releasing a new Lightwave (10 yai..) and still not streaming...

...are they trying hard to lose customers?

mlon

archijam
07-27-2010, 05:36 AM
Eshra - where would they find that kind of technology ?

djlithium
07-27-2010, 06:48 AM
Best ever siggraph paper:

http://www.graphics.stanford.edu/~niloy/research/camouflage/camouflage_images_sig_10.html

It has CATS ;)

http://www.graphics.stanford.edu/~niloy/research/camouflage/paper_docs/rst1_a.jpg


..


Mike posted a nice link to most of the Sigg 2010 papers on the web:

http://kesen.realtimerendering.com/sig2010.html

F-ing rights! KATS! =^..^=

Philbert
07-27-2010, 07:28 AM
Well it's now 7:30am California time on the first day of exhibition and there's no video yet... :mad:

archijam
07-27-2010, 09:52 AM
For those that didn't notice - the daily program is listed here (on a day-by-day basis it seems):

http://www.newtek.com/siggraph_10/

andrew_y
07-27-2010, 11:23 AM
http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/lw10.php

Not sure when the SIGGRAPH videos will be posted, but I understand at least one will be up today.

erikals
07-27-2010, 11:26 AM
will they be posted here?
http://tv.newtek.com/

andrew_y
07-27-2010, 11:34 AM
Yes, they will be on tv.newtek.com

Cageman
07-27-2010, 11:50 AM
Ahhhwww... I can't wait.... dammit! :D

OlaHaldor
07-27-2010, 12:06 PM
I'm looking at the Autodesk stream now. Nice stuff. Really. Even though I'm not any way near the need to move on to "the other side", there's some nice stuff going on.

Wish NewTek could have a stream like this!!


http://area.autodesk.com/siggraph

PixelDust
07-27-2010, 12:45 PM
These screenshots of LW 10 Layout and Modeler (http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/lw10.php) look like they have new (darker) skins. And there are two different ones shown.

Will Layout and Modeler 10 be able to be skinned like Core, or are these just Photoshop mock-ups?

Matt
07-27-2010, 12:50 PM
http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/lw10.php

Awesome webpage! :thumbsup:

Philbert
07-27-2010, 12:51 PM
They look the same to me, the only one that looks different is the screenshot of CORE.

PixelDust
07-27-2010, 12:53 PM
OK - It's hard to tell since the screenshots are so small. :) Hope they post some more stuff soon!

Philbert
07-27-2010, 12:56 PM
Yeah just to be sure I took a screenshot of the first one and loaded it into a image viewer, then had it on screen to compare with the others.

oliversimonnet
07-27-2010, 01:00 PM
These screenshots of LW 10 Layout and Modeler (http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/lw10.php) look like they have new (darker) skins. And there are two different ones shown.
aaa cool new version coming out :) looks good.

is the SIGGRAPH today?

Philbert
07-27-2010, 01:01 PM
aaa cool new version coming out :) looks good.

is the SIGGRAPH today?

Siggraph is running all week. Today is the first day of the exhibition, where all the companies have their booths set up.

newTek is posting picutres from the convention on twitter:
http://twitter.com/NewTekInc
http://twitter.com/lightwave3d

Pics can be found in the official Siggraph feed too:
http://twitter.com/siggraph

Matt
07-27-2010, 01:03 PM
These screenshots of LW 10 Layout and Modeler (http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/lw10.php) look like they have new (darker) skins. And there are two different ones shown.

Will Layout and Modeler 10 be able to be skinned like Core, or are these just Photoshop mock-ups?

The far left and far right one have much better buttons than the one third in.

;)

G-Man
07-27-2010, 01:05 PM
I really don't understand. As much as Newtek pushes the TriCaster they should have the BEST streaming webcast out there. Oh well. Everything looks good on the Lightwave front.

Cageman
07-27-2010, 01:06 PM
Awesome webpage! :thumbsup:

I agree!

I think the chart showing where the different features are avaliable is something I know we have asked for in HC-forums.

Very clear and with neato PDFs both for LW10 as well as CORE.

Bravo NT!!!

beverins
07-27-2010, 01:07 PM
Autodesk, a company not known for streaming video, is streaming live.
Newtek, a company centered around TV and Streaming Video, is not streaming live.

Autodesk will be getting the attention then. Newtek peeps should login and watch, get some pointers on presentation style.

Lovely new page, though, and booth looks delightful from the pics. Hope your demos are packed with Wow. Good luck guys, hoping for a glittering and stellar performance! The PDF is great stuff!

Wow, Autodesk has coordination between two booths from another company for their "virtual moviemaking" showing off motioncapture and VCam usage.. And of course an Avatar namedrop.

beverins
07-27-2010, 01:11 PM
Autodesk making sure everyone knows their UI uses QT.. Hey, Newtek... mention that in your demos, aye.

Philbert
07-27-2010, 01:12 PM
NewTek has streamed from Siggraph before and had problems with the net connection in the convention center, perhaps they anticipated the same thing this time. Also I know the convention center is charging people for wi-fi now, maybe they are also charging the exhibitors a lot for internet. AD certainly has more money than NT.

GCL
07-27-2010, 01:15 PM
I'm looking at the Autodesk stream now. Nice stuff. Really. Even though I'm not any way near the need to move on to "the other side", there's some nice stuff going on.

Wish NewTek could have a stream like this!!


http://area.autodesk.com/siggraph

It was a "yearly" event for me to watch live streaming Newtek until they decided to release videos only (not same as watching it live). I'm on the East Coast and getting to Siggraph is a pipe dream for now.
Newtek users did lose some interest by not streaming and highlighting VT products to boot. Autodesk does look interesting though but beyond my income and required yearly subscriptions.

Kuzey
07-27-2010, 01:23 PM
Once LightWave 10 ships HardCORE membership will be closed to new members.

Mmmm...that's interesting.

Does that mean the price of LW10 will drop after the release...to account for no HardCORE membership. I don't see why it should be closed off to new comers....if by the looks of it, it's free anyway, the idea would be to get as many members as you can...not limit the number beta testers?

Kuzey

Philbert
07-27-2010, 01:25 PM
Hard CORE is a free bonus, so the price would be the same with or without it.


the idea would be to get as many members as you can...not limit the number beta testers?
y

Why do you need beta testers after it's been released?

beverins
07-27-2010, 01:26 PM
Just want to rave again on the PDF - Now and then Newtek's Ad team manages to hit a home run! Here's hoping the live demos are just as good.

I would expect that streaming would cost them money, and Id rather Newtek use that for programming than paying Show Rates for streaming a show where nobody on the show floor might care, but it still does "look bad" for a company whose real bread and butter is the Tricaster (not that I think they should have any meaningful demos at Siggraph, just the live streaming would be enough) - You know... I WONDER what streaming tech Autodesk uses. Maybe someone can take a rolling stumble accident behind the curtain at Autodesk and see if they have a Tricaster back there? haha yes, im being facetious ;-D

zarti
07-27-2010, 01:27 PM
scream for stream ...

oliversimonnet
07-27-2010, 01:28 PM
does LightWave 10 come with core? because on the LightWave 10 page it has under "LightWave 10 New Feature Benefits" it has "core, modeler, layout"
http://www.newtek.com/lightwave/lw10.php

Philbert
07-27-2010, 01:29 PM
Yes Core is part of LightWave 10, In fact it was previously called LightWave With CORE Technology.

Kuzey
07-27-2010, 01:34 PM
Hard CORE is a free bonus, so the price would be the same with or without it.



Why do you need beta testers after it's been released?

For the next version of course. :D

The hardcore program will continue away. So, why limit it to people who buy in before the release date. What about bug fixes...how would people get those, sounds like...if the version you buy is full of bugs...then you are stuck with it for a full year??

Kuzey

cresshead
07-27-2010, 01:35 PM
http://area.autodesk.com/siggraph

motion builder looks amazing...currently live demo

oliversimonnet
07-27-2010, 01:35 PM
Yes Core is part of LightWave 10, In fact it was previously called LightWave With CORE Technology.

aaa ok, before i though LightWave with CORE technology was one program and Lightwave 10 was another hahaha

thanks for the info :)

zarti
07-27-2010, 01:38 PM
...

Wish NewTek could have a stream like this!!


http://area.autodesk.com/siggraph

hey , this link works ! ... thanks ! :hey:





edit : H11 is out ! :D

http://www.sidefx.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1774&Itemid=66

OlaHaldor
07-27-2010, 01:53 PM
Nooooooo freakin' way.. Autodesk has Lagoa physics engine included in their new suite...

Philbert
07-27-2010, 01:55 PM
"NVIDIAŪ GeForceŪ 8400 series (minimum)"

I'm going to need a new graphics card, my current one is an 8800.

calilifestyle
07-27-2010, 01:56 PM
I never updated my copy of hd9

Cageman
07-27-2010, 02:00 PM
http://area.autodesk.com/siggraph

motion builder looks amazing...currently live demo

MotionBuilder was amazing allready at Version 5/6. Ever since AD took over, performance have gone down (I'm watching the AD-stream as well). :)

That said, there is nothing like it out there, so if anything, MotionBuilder is a great asset for LW.

:)

OlaHaldor
07-27-2010, 02:00 PM
Hahah this is just great. Autodesk aren't allowed to stream this thing about Avatar. But we have audio though.

archijam
07-27-2010, 02:00 PM
Nooooooo freakin' way.. Autodesk has Lagoa physics engine included in their new suite...

I was not sure if he meant ICE or Lagoa ..

NanoGator
07-27-2010, 02:03 PM
Kuzey, my guess it's the other way around,
highres models were modeled in ZB/MB then downresed and brought into LW.

No. We built the models from paintings and laid them out in the scenes. Jim used these scenes to work out where the shots of the movie will take place and how they'll look. The final high res models came much later, using our scenes as a blueprint.

;)

edit: And, no, we didn't use only one app. We used whatever app was the best at whatever modelling challenge we had. Blender, for example, was used for some of the viney things because it has a really good toolset for modelling that sort of stuff. However, nearly everything was rinsed through Lightwave at some point so we could check the scale and make sure only 'clean' things went through to MotionBuilder. Off the top of my head I'd estimate 70% of the real-time assets were modeled in LW.

Cageman
07-27-2010, 02:04 PM
Funny!

AD is currently only broadcasting Audio. They are not permitted to show the stuff currently on screen. There is a guy from LightStorm talking about how they achived the realtime environments. He just said that he will not talk about software used, but rather talk about the process. *LOL*

Kuzey
07-27-2010, 02:05 PM
For the next version of course. :D

The hardcore program will continue away. So, why limit it to people who buy in before the release date. What about bug fixes...how would people get those, sounds like...if the version you buy is full of bugs...then you are stuck with it for a full year??

Kuzey

Just to expand a bit further...LW/core is now subscription based...as far as I know. So, if I buy in January 2011, am I buying a compete LW10 from last year....or LW11 at the end of my subscription??

I would presume, it's LW11 I'll be getting and access to the beta as well..otherwise, the subscription base model doesn't make sense.

Kuzey

Netvudu
07-27-2010, 02:06 PM
that no mention of LW at Autodesk booth was to be expected, wasnīt it?...

they seemed to have solved the virtual camera issue quite well, though, even if the OpenGL was subpar

Matt
07-27-2010, 02:08 PM
hedit : H11 is out ! :D

http://www.sidefx.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1774&Itemid=66

Looks like black is the new black! :D

NanoGator
07-27-2010, 02:09 PM
Funny!

AD is currently only broadcasting Audio. They are not permitted to show the stuff currently on screen. There is a guy from LightStorm talking about how they achived the realtime environments. He just said that he will not talk about software used, but rather talk about the process. *LOL*

Where is this feed?

phillydee
07-27-2010, 02:09 PM
I was not sure if he meant ICE or Lagoa ..

LAGOA: Thiago Costa's Lagoa is a component for Softimage's ICE. He originally created a SPH fluids solver using ICE. It's now evolved into something pretty darn wicked.

calilifestyle
07-27-2010, 02:10 PM
Just to expand a bit further...LW/core is now subscription based...as far as I know. So, if I buy in January 2011, am I buying a compete LW10 from last year....or LW11 at the end of my subscription??

I would presume, it's LW11 I'll be getting and access to the beta as well..otherwise, the subscription base model doesn't make sense.

Kuzey

well from one of the links it said you can upgrade now for 495... and you will be able to update for 5 more version of lw /wcore at 495 . so i guess if you wait till lw10 comes and pay 695, then your stuck at 695?

i think i was seeing things when i said 5 versions. I can't find where i thought i read it.
yeah I'm wrong

beverins
07-27-2010, 02:11 PM
Where is this feed?

area.autodesk.com/siggraph

NanoGator
07-27-2010, 02:11 PM
area.autodesk.com/siggraph

Appreciated. :)

Cageman
07-27-2010, 02:12 PM
Where is this feed?

http://area.autodesk.com/siggraph

Matt
07-27-2010, 02:13 PM
Where is this feed?

http://area.autodesk.com/siggraph

Doh, CM is too fast! :)

Edit: Nope, Beverins is faster! :D

beverins
07-27-2010, 02:16 PM
I really hope that Newtek are allowed to show live demos using VAD material, so that they can fight off / surf on the back of this Autodesk demo from WETA. Avatar and now The Two Towers... Going all the way back to Lord of The Rings for this demo.

oliversimonnet
07-27-2010, 02:19 PM
@beverins:are you watching the video now?

OlaHaldor
07-27-2010, 02:19 PM
If anyone missed the virtual camera / motion builder demo, I recorded it..
http://vimeo.com/13684662

archijam
07-27-2010, 02:22 PM
well from one of the links it said you can upgrade now for 495... and you will be able to update for 5 more version of lw /wcore at 495 . so i guess if you wait till lw10 comes and pay 695, then your stuck at 695?

i think i was seeing things when i said 5 versions. I can't find where i thought i read it.
yeah I'm wrong

I can confirm - 5 full versions (not .x).

Netvudu
07-27-2010, 02:22 PM
If anyone missed the virtual camera / motion builder demo, I recorded it..
http://vimeo.com/13684662

ooooh, you took out the part when they couldnīt make it work :D

Kuzey
07-27-2010, 02:24 PM
well from one of the links it said you can upgrade now for 495... and you will be able to update for 5 more version of lw /wcore at 495 . so i guess if you wait till lw10 comes and pay 695, then your stuck at 695?

That's not the problem...If I come in at a different price range and get locked into it....then so be it :D

The problem is all about the subscription idea. It seems there is confusion, as to what I could/should be getting. As I see it, I'm buying into LW11, which I should get at the end of my subscription, and I have a feeling Newtek might think I'm just getting LW10.

That's why the line about the hardcore program being closed off to new buyers (after the release of lw10).....startled me so.

Kuzey

Cageman
07-27-2010, 02:24 PM
If anyone missed the virtual camera / motion builder demo, I recorded it..
http://vimeo.com/13684662

To be TOTALY honest here, Virtual Camera capturing was done way back on Lord of The Rings (Cavetroll sequence).

It's a cool technology and gives a person who is used to cameras an easy way to shoot.

That said, this type of thing is something I've done with LightWaves camera for ages.

1) Look through your camera
2) Enable autokey
3) Hit play and move around

Usually I make two passes, one for translation and a second for rotation.

:)

phillydee
07-27-2010, 02:27 PM
ooooh, you took out the part when they couldnīt make it work :D

lol... I chuckled out loud at that point.. heh

Myagi
07-27-2010, 02:27 PM
Just to expand a bit further...LW/core is now subscription based...as far as I know. So, if I buy in January 2011, am I buying a compete LW10 from last year....or LW11 at the end of my subscription??

I would presume, it's LW11 I'll be getting and access to the beta as well..otherwise, the subscription base model doesn't make sense.

It might make more sense if you think that it never was subscription based, the subscription thing was an additional option (not mandatory). You were still always going to be able to buy and upgrade as always, including skipping versions between upgrades.

archijam
07-27-2010, 02:31 PM
Did anyone else find this image strange? ;)

http://area.autodesk.com/img/events/sigg10/header_inside.jpg

DBMiller
07-27-2010, 02:31 PM
http://www.newtek.com/lw/creature/

Anyone find this yet?

archijam
07-27-2010, 02:32 PM
It might make more sense if you think that it never was subscription based, the subscription thing was an additional option (not mandatory). You were still always going to be able to buy and upgrade as always, including skipping versions between upgrades.

ie. the pricing has nothing to do with the years, only version numbers. :)

cresshead
07-27-2010, 02:33 PM
If anyone missed the virtual camera / motion builder demo, I recorded it..
http://vimeo.com/13684662

nice one!:thumbsup:

Nicolas Jordan
07-27-2010, 02:33 PM
The fact that Newtek is locking up the Hardcore forum after LW10 ships has me a bit puzzled. :confused: Is it because they only want a limited number of members or is it because they have decided that the Hardcore exclusive club is more of a pain to have than they first thought.

It now says that a Hardcore Membership includes only 2-3 preview builds per year which is not what I would consider beta/alpha testing. Has the purpose of the Hardcore membership changed now? Will we only get a few preview builds every year and no more frequent builds for testing?

archijam
07-27-2010, 02:33 PM
http://www.newtek.com/lw/creature/

Anyone find this yet?

NICE.

:newtek: :thumbsup:

cresshead
07-27-2010, 02:34 PM
record the hydra!!!!

archijam
07-27-2010, 02:35 PM
Will we only get a few preview builds every year and no more frequent builds for testing?

I would assume bigger builds with more new features.

They have not mentioned a beta program .. perhaps it will exist parallel.

cresshead
07-27-2010, 02:37 PM
gosh he#s BORING!

zarti
07-27-2010, 02:37 PM
http://www.newtek.com/lw/creature/

Anyone find this yet?

good one !!

thank you all ; the author , NT and DBMiller ! :)

Cageman
07-27-2010, 02:41 PM
Is it just me or is the DD-presentation very un-inspiring?

The guy talking is like a robot...

Kuzey
07-27-2010, 02:41 PM
It might make more sense if you think that it never was subscription based, the subscription thing was an additional option (not mandatory). You were still always going to be able to buy and upgrade as always, including skipping versions between upgrades.

I thought it was never optional...just how things were to be from now on. Kinda confuses the whole thing more....I hope Newtek picks one, or at the very least, clarifies the situation...before release of LW10.

Kuzey

Nicolas Jordan
07-27-2010, 02:41 PM
I would assume bigger builds with more new features.

They have not mentioned a beta program .. perhaps it will exist parallel.

That's what I would hope but it would be nice if someone from Newtek could clarify this since it would definitely have an impact on my decision to buy a Hardcore membership.

OlaHaldor
07-27-2010, 02:41 PM
ooooh, you took out the part when they couldnīt make it work :D

It was actually more like
"OH SHOOT I gotta show this to a friend :o" *finding the app, waiting for it to start up, hit RECORD wait for record to start..* Using a MacBook, and the stream is flash.. well.. things go a little slow. :)

And yes, I had a little chuckle there, but hey, could've happened to anyone. :)


And no. I won't record the hydra. Haha, I saw your message too late. And I have absolutely no interest in it.. and.. he's pretty boring. :hey:

calilifestyle
07-27-2010, 02:43 PM
well wasnt HW membership set up for beta testing lwHC 1.0

and yeah he does sound kind of robotic

but in all honesty, if i was up there i would be worst.

I take it back i could have done better. lol

Kuzey
07-27-2010, 02:48 PM
well wasnt HW membership set up for beta testing lwHC 1.0

Yes..but it will still continue, but not for new members and only if existing members upgrade. I thought it would be part of the whole package by now??

Kuzey

Cageman
07-27-2010, 02:50 PM
"We found animators to be much cheaper than a muscle simulation system" (the guy from DD said that just recently).

I actually can not agree more. These technical solutions are cool, but they aren't magic. By using traditional keyframe techniques in combination with morphs (obviosly this requires a good rig nontheless) they were able to achive things much faster.

Now, this is a good message. Instead of complaining to NT that there is no muscle system, the focus should be on rigging tools that allows for things like what DD just talked about possible.

In CORE that is... because that is where these type of things will be made.

:)

SBowie
07-27-2010, 02:50 PM
I thought it would be part of the whole package by now??I think HC members have a good deal more info on upcoming policies and pricing just at the moment, Kuzey. I'm 100% sure it will all be made clear anon, but I'm not sure we can really expect it to happen during SIGGRAPH, if only because of manpower demands.

Kuzey
07-27-2010, 02:54 PM
I think HC members have a good deal more info on upcoming policies and pricing just at the moment, Kuzey. I'm 100% sure it will all be made clear anon, but I'm not sure we can really expect it to happen during SIGGRAPH, if only because of manpower demands.

Sure...a week or two after....is fine with me, as long as it's not after the release of LW10 :beerchug:


Has the Newtek demos started yet??

Kuzey

-EsHrA-
07-27-2010, 02:58 PM
huh DD talk? are you following any feeds??..

mlon

Philbert
07-27-2010, 02:59 PM
Has the Newtek demos started yet??



According to
http://www.newtek.com/siggraph_10/

They started hours ago.

Kuzey
07-27-2010, 03:03 PM
According to
http://www.newtek.com/siggraph_10/

They started hours ago.

Oh....I was hoping to see some super Core demos about now. I guess they'll be uploaded later on.

Fingers crossed...it'll run smoothly..and rock :D

Kuzey

Matt
07-27-2010, 03:04 PM
Anyone at SIGGY got some piccies of the LW stand?

calilifestyle
07-27-2010, 03:09 PM
Man i should have just taken today off to. It's not like im getting any work down since i just doing refresh on ever post to see what new out there, at sigg. btw any word on 3dcoat. who was going to show up

phillydee
07-27-2010, 03:10 PM
Man i should have just taken today off to. It's not like im getting any work down since i just doing refresh on ever post to see what new out there, at sigg. btw any word on 3dcoat. who was going to show up

I can totally relate...

Cageman
07-27-2010, 03:17 PM
I have vaccation, thankfully. Very neato. :D

Cageman
07-27-2010, 03:18 PM
huh DD talk? are you following any feeds??..

mlon

Well, since NewTek doesn't stream live, I'm looking at ADs livestream.

http://area.autodesk.com/siggraph

Philbert
07-27-2010, 03:37 PM
btw any word on 3dcoat. who was going to show up

I have not heard any word yet, hopefully that means the booth is so busy they don't have time to talk about it.

Netvudu
07-27-2010, 04:10 PM
oooohh...the guy from The Mill just said XSI, not Softimage. That must have hurt to the AD guy :D

Netvudu
07-27-2010, 04:20 PM
oh my, the AD guy is also saying XSI??? maybe they are referring to the non-AD version?

Philbert
07-27-2010, 04:22 PM
lol Old habits die hard.

Netvudu
07-27-2010, 04:34 PM
yeah, I guess they are buying software so fast they forget their own brand names

Samus
07-27-2010, 04:36 PM
What a shame...nothing from newtek...how sad is that!! Newtek Tv not streaming,...Lucky Autodesk is putting the show. In the End i've seen more
Autodesk product than Newtek, And dont get me wrong i love Lightwave
But it's time to flex them muscles and one thing starting by streaming ASAP cause some will turn away...Remember the first video of Core When revealed...SAAAAAAAADDDDD!!!

phillydee
07-27-2010, 04:38 PM
a friend of mine told me the process of updating the license from the XSI version to AD's was a real pain... maybe The Mill didn't want to deal with it... who knows.

calilifestyle
07-27-2010, 04:39 PM
What a shame...nothing from newtek...how sad is that!! Newtek Tv not streaming,...Lucky Autodesk is putting the show. In the End i've seen more
Autodesk product than Newtek, And dont get me wrong i love Lightwave
But it's time to flex them muscles and one thing starting by streaming ASAP cause some will turn away...Remember the first video of Core When revealed...SAAAAAAAADDDDD!!!

i know, it's insane. i always say it . How can the makes of tricaster not be up and steaming at all events. Almost all pod shows us the tricaster.

phillydee
07-27-2010, 04:46 PM
A thread around these parts mentioned the LACC up'd their price to a hefty premium for streaming. And, vids apparently will be posted over on the tv.newtek.com page. Probably in a few hours I'm guessing.

NanoGator
07-27-2010, 04:49 PM
i know, it's insane. i always say it . How can the makes of tricaster not be up and steaming at all events. Almost all pod shows us the tricaster.

I don't really know but I imagine the trouble lies in getting an internet connection to the booth.

GCL
07-27-2010, 04:52 PM
I guess live streaming is starting to go downhill now, now buffering all the time. The Previs is quite interesting to watch and too bad it's being streamed inconsistently.

calilifestyle
07-27-2010, 04:55 PM
i mean this event should have some ustreamer, but nothing. that's crazy to.

zarti
07-27-2010, 05:07 PM
nice doc ! thank you AD ... when starts the second ? =P








edit : can someone record the other docs ? ( 'he' said there were six of them ... )

.

OlaHaldor
07-27-2010, 05:08 PM
I guess live streaming is starting to go downhill now, now buffering all the time. The Previs is quite interesting to watch and too bad it's being streamed inconsistently.

I had no problems with it. I recorded the first part of their documentary too. Really interesting stuff.



For those interested or missed it: here's the Flame demo with Wesley from The Mill in NY, about the production of the Barclaycard ad (http://vimeo.com/13688828).

Philbert
07-27-2010, 05:30 PM
Not getting my hopes up, but curious, suppose you win one of the booth give-aways but you're not at the con. How do they contact you, email?

nemac4
07-27-2010, 05:36 PM
The shirts look great. :)

Philbert
07-27-2010, 05:37 PM
Man, I want a cool CORE shirt! :(

zarti
07-27-2010, 05:44 PM
have some mercy nemac4 .








=)

aurora
07-27-2010, 06:13 PM
Man, I want a cool CORE shirt! :(

I still like the flaming Core shirt design. That one ROCKED!!!! After waiting this long......

OlaHaldor
07-27-2010, 06:18 PM
nice doc ! thank you AD ... when starts the second ? =P

edit : can someone record the other docs ? ( 'he' said there were six of them ... )

.

as I understood it, they won't be shown during SIGGRAPH, but might be available to purchase or something.

OlaHaldor
07-27-2010, 06:22 PM
Not getting my hopes up, but curious, suppose you win one of the booth give-aways but you're not at the con. How do they contact you, email?

They mention this that you're not required to show up at their booth. All you have to do is register. I did.. Crossing my fingers. :thumbsup:

Philbert
07-27-2010, 06:23 PM
Yeah, that's the only reason I registered, even though I knew I wasn't able to make it to the show.

DBMiller
07-27-2010, 06:37 PM
Yeah, that's the only reason I registered, even though I knew I wasn't able to make it to the show.

Same here. :thumbsup:

djlithium
07-27-2010, 06:44 PM
As for the streaming issue, I have done live events at trade shows like this and the convention centers are incredibly pricey when it comes to providing a data line. It may be a costs issue here guys. I am just speculating. However if the costs were astronomical as I suspect they probably are I would prefer NT to spend the money on awesome goodies and development and a snazy looking booth to attract tradeshow floor attendees to the booth to do direct selling rather than stream and preach to the choir (us) when we can see it nicely recorded, produced and over and over again after the fact.

Philbert
07-27-2010, 06:48 PM
Reminds me of the anime convention, Otakon, that I used to attend every year, the Almost all of the vendors could only take cash because they couldn't afford to get a data connection for the credit cards. The few that did accept credit would either call it in on a cell phone or just keep track and do it when they left for the day.

Nicolas Jordan
07-27-2010, 07:09 PM
Hopefully we get to see some of the first video demos at the Lightwave booth online tonight!

Cageman
07-27-2010, 07:25 PM
yeah, I guess they are buying software so fast they forget their own brand names

ROTFL!

Soooo true!! :D

OlaHaldor
07-27-2010, 07:29 PM
Hey Cageman - what are you doing up so late? It's in the middle of the night! :D *sigh* I get too carried away with the new Mac stuff and SIGGRAPH.. So much to read! I gotta get to work in like.. 5 hours. DOH!

Cageman
07-27-2010, 07:32 PM
As for the streaming issue, I have done live events at trade shows like this and the convention centers are incredibly pricey when it comes to providing a data line. It may be a costs issue here guys. I am just speculating. However if the costs were astronomical as I suspect they probably are I would prefer NT to spend the money on awesome goodies and development and a snazy looking booth to attract tradeshow floor attendees to the booth to do direct selling rather than stream and preach to the choir (us) when we can see it nicely recorded, produced and over and over again after the fact.

Spot ON!

AND... the fact that AD have had quite a few embarrasing mishaps allready (crashes, not working features etc), NT can (and probably will) edit such things out before posting the videos for the masses to see.

:)

Cageman
07-27-2010, 07:34 PM
Hey Cageman - what are you doing up so late? It's in the middle of the night! :D *sigh* I get too carried away with the new Mac stuff and SIGGRAPH.. So much to read! I gotta get to work in like.. 5 hours. DOH!

Unlike you, I have vaccation (I've already had two weeks, this week+next week as well).

:D

OlaHaldor
07-27-2010, 07:39 PM
Good someone can find time and money to take vacation :) I'm working my A off. Ain't it sweet when an animation and composite has been approved two weeks ago, and now, a couple of days before screening they suddenly want to do major changes? :D Gosh, what a long day it's been.. Looking forward to some compositing and final delivery within the next 15 hours. And not least, sending them the bill :D

Looking at the SIGGRAPH stuff makes my head go "weeeee :D" and the inspiration just goes sky high!

Twisted_Pixel
07-27-2010, 07:47 PM
Couple of photos of the Newtek stand.

Cageman
07-27-2010, 07:52 PM
Couple of photos of the Newtek stand.

Cool to see Deuce on the stage! Long time since I saw him!

MentalFish
07-27-2010, 07:52 PM
Hey Cageman - what are you doing up so late? It's in the middle of the night! :D *sigh* I get too carried away with the new Mac stuff and SIGGRAPH.. So much to read! I gotta get to work in like.. 5 hours. DOH!

I hear ya :D

Twisted_Pixel
07-27-2010, 08:00 PM
Tomorrow will bring my DSLR so hopefully get some better pics. Some interesting celebrity visits are planned.

Philbert
07-27-2010, 08:08 PM
Cool to see Deuce on the stage! Long time since I saw him!

Sorry to say last time I saw him at Siggraph I said "Hi we've talked online" and he says "Yeah, I talk to a lot of people online". Not the greatest first impression.

Cageman
07-27-2010, 08:29 PM
Sorry to say last time I saw him at Siggraph I said "Hi we've talked online" and he says "Yeah, I talk to a lot of people online". Not the greatest first impression.

That sounds kind of awkward... I agree, it doesn't sound like a good first impression at all... :/

Nicolas Jordan
07-27-2010, 09:05 PM
Sorry to say last time I saw him at Siggraph I said "Hi we've talked online" and he says "Yeah, I talk to a lot of people online". Not the greatest first impression.

I figure he is the real life version of the Comic Book Store guy on the Simpsons so that definitely seems to be consistent with that character. :D

BigHache
07-27-2010, 09:22 PM
So what would I be looking at to upgrade, or is that all to be final cleared up tomorrow? The page on CGChannel says HardCORE memberships with free upgrade to 10, but then there's a different price for 10 upgrade. Is this time sensitive? I was looking at buying into CORE membership but I don't even see where I can do that in the store.

Philbert
07-27-2010, 09:24 PM
I think CGChannel has it backwards. You're paying for the upgrade and HardCore comes with it.That's the way I've understood it. Either way it's the same price.

Nicolas Jordan
07-27-2010, 09:32 PM
The page on CGChannel says HardCORE memberships with free upgrade to 10

I think it just a confusing way of saying current HardCore members get what we know as Lightwave 10 at no additional charge since Lightwave 10 is what Hardcore members have had access to test all this time. Maybe I'm just making it sound more confusing? :)

BigHache
07-27-2010, 09:32 PM
OK that makes more sense. I'm guessing the online store will be updated shortly after Siggraph then? Looking forward to seeing the new stuff.

Philbert
07-27-2010, 09:35 PM
I think it just a confusing way of saying current HardCore members get what we know as Lightwave 10 at no additional charge since Lightwave 10 is what Hardcore members have had access to test all this time. Maybe I'm just making it sound more confusing? :)

Well sure, you're only a current HC member because you bought either the full version of 9 or the upgrade to 10 (known before today as LightWave with CORE Technology). But there's no buying HC. I made a comment about it on the CGChannel article.

Nicolas Jordan
07-27-2010, 09:40 PM
OK that makes more sense. I'm guessing the online store will be updated shortly after Siggraph then? Looking forward to seeing the new stuff.

Ya hopefully they do update that graphic to say something like just Lightwave 10 or Lightwave 10 with Hardcore membership to keep things consistent.

Matt
07-28-2010, 01:33 AM
Couple of photos of the Newtek stand.

Best looking stand I've seen from NT, really cool!

I gotta say, the LW10 graphics are nicely done, it almost looks like I did it! :D

Nice work NT!

Titus
07-28-2010, 01:40 AM
Best looking stand I've seen from NT, really cool!

I gotta say, the LW10 graphics are nicely done, it almost looks like I did it! :D

Nice work NT!

Yes, this year NT booth looks a little more pro. Rob's presentation was good, not excellent but good.

walfridson
07-28-2010, 03:02 AM
Q for guys there, how are the reactions from non-lw users?

mav3rick
07-28-2010, 03:50 AM
Best looking stand I've seen from NT, really cool!

I gotta say, the LW10 graphics are nicely done, it almost looks like I did it! :D

Nice work NT!

Nice work matt ;)

Matt
07-28-2010, 03:58 AM
Nice work matt ;)

You misunderstand me, I didn't do it!

mav3rick
07-28-2010, 03:58 AM
The shirts look great. :)

Remind me on my core shirt idea ;)

archijam
07-28-2010, 04:00 AM
No, reallllly, nice work, Matt :)

mav3rick
07-28-2010, 04:02 AM
You misunderstand me, I didn't do it!

Cmon matt lets break nda

-EsHrA-
07-28-2010, 05:21 AM
so...where's the promised first vid??..

mlon

Cageman
07-28-2010, 05:28 AM
so...where's the promised first vid??..

mlon

Yeah... I wonder that too... I'm so eager to see something from the NT-booth! :)

Matt
07-28-2010, 06:22 AM
Cmon matt lets break nda

Seriously, it wasn't me! I'd say if it was!

akademus
07-28-2010, 06:23 AM
Seriously, it wasn't me! I'd say if it was!

I don't believe you. As soon as I've seen that brochure I said to myself, this must be Matt. :)

archijam
07-28-2010, 06:25 AM
Just goes to show tho.

I always thought Matt was an honest guy.





;)

COBRASoft
07-28-2010, 07:04 AM
Matt is in the engineering contributors list of the about box... nuff said! :D

Matt
07-28-2010, 07:17 AM
You see, now I have to apologise to whoever it is who did it at NewTek!

Seriously, I never had a hand in it!

COBRASoft
07-28-2010, 07:34 AM
I believe you Matt. Just playing with ya.

Netvudu
07-28-2010, 09:12 AM
I donīt. I think Matt did it, but heīs too humble :D

COBRASoft
07-28-2010, 09:19 AM
Netvudu: stop messing with him. He's done such a nice job now :D. Still believe you Matt:devil:.

mikala
07-28-2010, 09:23 AM
I would really like some vid of this event...sometime in the near future.
Just curious to see how they are presenting themselves this year.

Nicolas Jordan
07-28-2010, 09:58 AM
I would guess they should have the first batch of vids up sometime today since I think someone from Newtek had mentioned the plan was to have the first one would be up last night.

TheDeacon
07-28-2010, 11:27 AM
Yes...LightWave 10 integrates Modeler and Layout with CORE technologies, such as
immersive real-time and game tools, Pythonbased expressions and scripting, Bullet rigid
body dynamics and sophisticated UV mapping capabilities.

TheDeacon
07-28-2010, 11:28 AM
Vids were in edit late last night. On their way... stay tuned.

mikala
07-28-2010, 11:29 AM
Thank you :)

DBMiller
07-28-2010, 11:52 AM
Vids were in edit late last night. On their way... stay tuned.

Yea!:thumbsup:

Cageman
07-28-2010, 11:58 AM
Vids were in edit late last night. On their way... stay tuned.

Ohhh....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrIuTlh2dQA&feature=related

:D

GCL
07-28-2010, 12:48 PM
Be nice to see streaming Captain Kirk (aka Mr. Shatner) but NOT!
As usual, when it's done - it's done as the saying goes.
Be nice to see the videos before Siggraph over.
We need 23rd century technology. (tap Capt. Kirk for details)

nemac4
07-28-2010, 01:03 PM
Ive uploaded a video from my phone. It is part of shader demo. This is realtime folks. Refraction and all.
http://www.dmitchell3d.com/newtek/lw10.zip

Cageman
07-28-2010, 01:14 PM
None of the links work (and they were not properly posted as links either). :D

Cageman
07-28-2010, 01:28 PM
Not Found

The requested URL /newtek/Newtek_party_lw10_shader_demo.zip was not found on this server.