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hrgiger
02-22-2010, 10:12 PM
Just got my new intuos 4 this last week and wanted to try my hand at some digital painting. It's going to be Jack Bauer from 24 and it's from a photo I found on the web.

I want to learn some painting techniques, can anyone recommend any good books or learning materials? This is a lot of fun, but I suck at it so any advice would be appreciated.

probiner
02-23-2010, 05:24 AM
I don't know any -Painting Techniques-. But guessing you are using Photoshop here's what i can tell you:

Paint with very strict colors and a 100% hard brush, define areas of color and brighrness with these hard strokes, then if you want a soft look, smudge it. But for working and paying attention to colors this is much easier i think. And the soft brushes works always look like someone went diving on garbage.

Smudge tool is also great to give some "oil-like" strokes. Set the stenght to 99% or a bit less, go your brush settings and set the minimum size to 50%, then activate Finger Painting on the Smudge Tool on top. It will aplly the color you have selected and smudge .

Have fun =)

archijam
02-23-2010, 05:27 AM
Very nice start.

I would search youtube for time-lapses. There are hours of material showing the way people build up amazing images ..

Red_Oddity
02-23-2010, 04:44 PM
Like the work done by Anry

Here's the well known Tyrael Knight Timelapse : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us8s_ax0hGY

(mind you, this is some ****** encode done by some fan probably, including annoying soundtrack, the original techsmith recording can still be found online aswell)

Soth
02-23-2010, 04:56 PM
[QUOTE=hrgiger;989643]Just got my new intuos 4 this last week and wanted to try my hand at some digital painting. It's going to be Jack Bauer from 24 and it's from a photo I found on the web.
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That was quick... really cool picture!

hrgiger
02-23-2010, 05:29 PM
I don't understand what's going on in those timelapses. How are they switching brush sizes and colors so quickly (is it editing?) But I'm a total noob when it comes to painting in PS so maybe I just don't understand a good process.

hrgiger
02-23-2010, 08:18 PM
Another update. It doesn't seem like I did a lot but man this is hard work.

Red_Oddity
02-24-2010, 02:23 AM
I don't understand what's going on in those timelapses. How are they switching brush sizes and colors so quickly (is it editing?) But I'm a total noob when it comes to painting in PS so maybe I just don't understand a good process.

Anry uses Painter as far as i know, he probably has a color swatch or palette somewhere on his image as well and is video capturing just part of the whole canvas.

The movie was sped up, don't know anymore by how much (long time ago), also, the crappy encode makes the movie stutter and make it look like Anry is pausing in between doodles.

When i paint with Photoshop (which i rarely do, too much bloat and not enough artist friendly control, read; brush and color settings spread out over as much popups and different places as possible), i use the RMB to quickly resize the brush and i have a color swatch with my prepicked colors, farther in a painting session you just pick colors from the canvas using Alt+LMB.
And indeed using a custom brush with 100% hardness, as little as possible spacing and the only brush dynamics i usually use is Opacity set to Pen Pressure.

My actual painting programs thses days tend to be the incredible (yet small, fast and friendly...and very cheap) ArtRage 3 (http://www.artrage.com/), Artweaver (http://www.artweaver.de/).
Biggest advantage of ArtRage (http://www.artrage.com/)and Artweaver (http://www.artweaver.de/)is they are lean, fast and more focussed on actual painting, plus they have a modifier tool that allows you to click and LMB to change brush sizes (you see the brush size in realtime change, something PS does not as it only updates brushes when letting go of a slider or input)

I still wish Craig Mullins (http://www.goodbrush.com/) would do a recording of one of his paint sessions, but alas, for now i just learn from staring at his incredible work.

archijam
02-24-2010, 03:52 AM
Red - nice tutorial on stereog. in LW! You should post it in the forums!

You guys are still cranking out amazing stuff. Inspiring! :)

sampei
02-24-2010, 06:04 AM
not bad at all keep up the good work, there are loads of free tutorials for digital painting for free online. A really cool book is Ballistics "digital painting" 1 & 2...there are some good tips and loads of cracking art :thumbsup:

Matt
02-24-2010, 06:18 AM
I was looking at timelapse stuff on YT the other day, this one was pretty good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-TYO0cGFmQ

All Photoshop.

hrgiger
02-24-2010, 10:58 AM
Wow, that's nice.

Iain
02-24-2010, 11:19 AM
That looks great so far!

This is a good tut......................

http://www.cgarena.com/freestuff/tutorials/photoshop/bluefoil/bluefoil.html

hrgiger
02-24-2010, 11:36 AM
Thanks Iain. And that tut looks like the kind of stuff I'm looking for that. Appreciate it.

shrox
02-24-2010, 03:01 PM
Another update. It doesn't seem like I did a lot but man this is hard work.

What's this painting stuff? And being good at it as well! Geez, it's like he's some kind of excellent artist or something...which he is.

Trevor
02-27-2010, 11:51 PM
Thats not a bad start.
One thing I would suggest especially for the background is experiment with texture brushes.
When you make a brush stroke with your pen pressure set to opacity you will create a mid range of that colour, then all you need do is press alt for the dropper and pick a different value right there where you are painting.

liquidpope
03-01-2010, 04:01 PM
I don't understand what's going on in those timelapses. How are they switching brush sizes and colors so quickly (is it editing?) But I'm a total noob when it comes to painting in PS so maybe I just don't understand a good process.

Hey Steve, that's looking really good so far.
(how'd you get so good so dang fast?)
In Photoshop, you can make brush size go up or down with the [ and ] keys.
I've got my wacom pen side button thingy (sorry for the technical jargon) set to ALT key, which is the eye dropper tool in PS.
So it's very quick to pick a color or change brush size.
Check out this thread http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107217 for some great info, and the whole rest of the site is awesome as well.

hrgiger
03-01-2010, 06:28 PM
Thanks guys. Here's an update. It's not great but considering this is my first digital painting, I'm pretty happy with it. I clearly have no understanding of a good methodology when painting. I thought I'd crank this out and go from there. Going to look at some different tutorials and see if I can get to know the methods a bit better.

jasonwestmas
07-19-2010, 02:17 PM
Yeah that's a pretty good underpainting and I don't mean anything bad about that. Check out some of nagel's texture brush series so that your brush strokes don't all feel the same.

http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/photoshopbrushes/Free_Adobe_Photoshop_Brushes_to_Download.htm

Probably just as important is to really play with the "color temperature transitions" from one color blend into the next. Both texture and color temp makes thing more dimensional in appearance. Light to dark Value and anlogous temperatures by themselves look too flat and boring imo.

A third tip is that photos don't always show the right colors to use, most photos are very flat and unappealing imo. It takes some real observation of reality with your own eyes to truly understand what makes an image appealing.