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Kuzey
02-19-2010, 08:05 AM
Speed Modeling Challenge #74 Photographic Studio
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Rules:

1. Every week there will be a subject for you to model along with a time limit. You should spend no longer than the allocated time, then post a render of your model. As in most challenges like this, your honesty on modelling times is essential. How you interpret the brief is up to you as long as the final model conforms to what is asked for.
2. Post a render of your model (min 800x600 pixels) in this thread with a wireframe.
3. LightWave should be used for modelling. 3rd party Plug ins are allowed.
4. You can enter as many times as you like, posting each in this thread. If you run over the time, the model can still be posted but won't be subject to the judging.
5. Time spent on texturing, setting up a scene for a render and rendering is not included in the allocated period.


**Please mention whether or not you would be happy to share the model.**

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Lightwave Speed Modeling Group

This week's topic: Photographic Studio

anything photographic studio related...backdrops, all kinds of lights, tripods, cameras...large format, new and old etc, camera lenses, reflectors, scaffolding, light tents, light meters...props of any kind...that would be useful in a studio.

Time Limit - 90 minutes.

Deadline - Wednesday 24th of Feb. 2010 - 2200 hrs GMT (with an optional one week extension upon request...which would make the new deadline - Wednesday 4th of March 2010 - 2200 hrs GMT)

Iain
02-19-2010, 08:58 AM
Cool cool :thumbsup:

archijam
02-19-2010, 09:10 AM
Lol .. can we make a SLIK kit ;) ?

Focus on the lights, people!

Nice idea. :)

Nangleator
02-19-2010, 09:16 AM
Heh. That was the inspiration.

OnlineRender
02-19-2010, 09:59 AM
can you assign LW lens flares to particles ! I mean LOTS

UnCommonGrafx
02-19-2010, 10:31 AM
No and yes.
You can fxlink a light, with lens flare active, to the particles. This would get you what you want.

can you assign LW lens flares to particles ! I mean LOTS

OnlineRender
02-19-2010, 10:33 AM
No and yes.
You can fxlink a light, with lens flare active, to the particles. This would get you what you want.

Thanks

Nangleator
02-19-2010, 10:34 AM
Alternately, you could use Corona on the particles, using an image of a flare. Might have to do it in post.

Or, use Pixie Dust.

OnlineRender
02-19-2010, 10:44 AM
or you could spray points then use Lens flares ?

It's not important , just like to know these things .

colkai
02-19-2010, 11:11 AM
Good-oh, I'm all for our "new" 2-week period for each challenge btw. :)

COBRASoft
02-19-2010, 11:33 AM
ZERO experience with this kind of stuff. I have only my Canon 350D and 2 lenses that I don't use enough compared to the price I paid :).

Looks like I'll have to google a lot for ideas.

OnlineRender
02-19-2010, 12:35 PM
Good-oh, I'm all for our "new" 2-week period for each challenge btw. :)

Hmm i liked it the old way ! 2 weeks is a bit much , generally when you have goal you reach for it , if it's 2 weeks away you will just keep putting it off , untill you have an hour left ... which defeats the purpose (",)

Kuzey
02-19-2010, 12:43 PM
I was thinking if we have some great models, we might get preset central to host the files in the one place...make a new section for preset studio items/objects....Ben....Matt??

But it's still early days yet...just thought I get the idea out there :hey:

Kuzey

novawave
02-22-2010, 09:05 AM
looks like everyone looks busy this week..so i'll take the head start:D., its fujifilm s5(the first DSLR pro model with all full view reference i could found:D)

finished the base model ,but at 90 minutes limit i cant manage to get on some detail and refine sub-D shape:)

cmon everyone.. waiting for some great models to learn :D

COBRASoft
02-22-2010, 10:11 AM
Did you just model a complete camera within 90 mins? Damn, I'm a poor modeler :D

Nice model and all in sub-D!

Nangleator
02-22-2010, 11:12 AM
Awesome, novawave. Trying for two in a row?

I'm actually sick as a dog now. Perhaps some sort of virus thing, perhaps tracing a lineage to a domesticated herd animal.

But I'll be entering.

Iain
02-22-2010, 11:24 AM
Great stuff novawave.
Looks like we have another cracking speed modeller!

novawave
02-22-2010, 07:58 PM
@Cobrasoft: thanks, its kinda fast to start with since i use box modelling(good ol trick:D),made boxy base, then Sub-d, then go crazy with Bandsaw:D, and the SLR just single cylinder get heavy smooth shift and multi shifted:D, the renders are the result as far as i can go for 90 min(btw now i noticed my camera back are still like a brick ..ouch darned..kekekeke)

@Nangleator :thanks and get well soon, waiting for your model (and shader tips) sir:thumbsup:..and i took head start because i know the next 2 or more days,..someone with insane modelling skill will posted in somethin that make us "Waaooow" and think :" OMG,.re..refine..,now practice practice pratice,.:D) in the end of the day,.everyone feel burn up and make better models, and the winner judge will go headache again kekekeke

@Iain : thanks Mr.Iain..looking forward to your models and those "woooow" renders:D

Iain
02-23-2010, 04:45 PM
A Softbox.

Not complex but I put some effort into the accuracy so it took the full 90 minutes for modelling.

Iain
02-23-2010, 04:48 PM
Got a bit carried away :D............

Kuzey
02-23-2010, 04:53 PM
Super cool.....Iain and novawave, these are wonderful..hehe!!


Kuzey

R.Feeney
02-23-2010, 05:50 PM
Great work there guys.

COBRASoft
02-23-2010, 06:41 PM
Very high level guys! Amazing work.

stevmjon
02-23-2010, 06:42 PM
the renders are the result as far as i can go for 90 min

to novawave

great modelling. the render & surfacing is not included in the time limit. you can spend as long as you like with these. the time limit only applies to the modelling.
if you modelled and surfaced this in the time limit, that's pretty impressive.

stevmjon

stevmjon
02-23-2010, 06:45 PM
to iain

i like your renders. you always do a good job.

stevmjon

Nangleator
02-23-2010, 07:58 PM
Wow, Iain!! Do you have one sitting right next to you?

Iain
02-24-2010, 04:53 AM
Cheers guys. :thumbsup:

JeffrySG
02-24-2010, 08:39 AM
A Softbox.

Not complex but I put some effort into the accuracy so it took the full 90 minutes for modelling.

that came out great, Iain. :)

If I had time I was going to try to tackle a soft box as well... (not that specific one though)

Iain
02-24-2010, 02:03 PM
A light. 80 minutes modelling but I forgot the bulb and couldn't be bothered :hey:

Kuzey
02-24-2010, 02:07 PM
Boy....do I like the surfaces on that one and the modelling is top notch as well :thumbsup:

Kuzey

Iain
02-24-2010, 03:54 PM
Thanks Kuzey.

I love detailed stuff like this but I'd never do it if not for these challenges and then I'm limited in time. Catch 22!

I think I'll take this one a bit further.

Iain
02-25-2010, 04:09 AM
Modelled some barn doors and turned it on............

Kuzey
02-25-2010, 04:15 AM
Haha...super, are the textures...image maps or procedural...besides the logos that is :hey:

Kuzey

COBRASoft
02-25-2010, 04:18 AM
Iain: you're not human. Amazing quality!

Iain
02-25-2010, 04:24 AM
Amazing quality!

Thanks-that's LW 9.6 for ya. 5 minute renders too!

The only procedural used was bump array for the reflector. I don't use procedurals really, usually just fractal noise for some subtle bump.

COBRASoft
02-25-2010, 12:55 PM
5 mins for renders? Iain, are you willing to share that last scene? I'm curious how you get that quality in such a short time.

Derrick_SA
02-25-2010, 01:46 PM
amazing work on the renders Iain!

- Derrick

R.Feeney
02-25-2010, 01:53 PM
Great work again Iain.
I just cant seem to find something that I fancy building for this one. A failure of my imagination I think

danielkaiser
02-25-2010, 03:12 PM
My favorite studio accessory.

5min for model, far to long for surfacing and rendering.

Wires to follow.

Nangleator
02-25-2010, 04:31 PM
<GghhLlaarrrrrr>

Iain
02-26-2010, 12:56 AM
My favorite studio accessory.



Nice! I don't know if I want to sit on it or eat it!

Sigurd, I'll post my scene later today but the look is probably acheived mainly in post.

Cheers for the feedback :thumbsup:

Iain
03-01-2010, 04:10 AM
I just cant seem to find something that I fancy building for this one. A failure of my imagination I think

Then I challenge you to model this..............
http://www.freewebs.com/aandsproductions/xl1s.jpg

:D

I wouldn't expect many other people to manage it in 90 minutes but you always amaze.

If you do take up the gauntlet (assuming you have the time and inclination!) my lens from the optics challenge would make a decent start.

R.Feeney
03-01-2010, 05:46 AM
I am tempted to try, it does look a bit much for the 90 min though:D

COBRASoft
03-01-2010, 06:57 AM
Richard: because of the complexity of the model, you get 120 mins :D.

Iain
03-01-2010, 07:11 AM
100!

:santa:

OnlineRender
03-01-2010, 07:52 AM
Then I challenge you to model this..............
http://www.freewebs.com/aandsproductions/xl1s.jpg

:D

I wouldn't expect many other people to manage it in 90 minutes but you always amaze.
.

I could do that in 90mins the only problem being it would look more like a hi8 camera than that :P go on Richard you know you can do IT .

cresshead
03-01-2010, 07:55 AM
Then I challenge you to model this..............
http://www.freewebs.com/aandsproductions/xl1s.jpg

:D

I wouldn't expect many other people to manage it in 90 minutes but you always amaze.

If you do take up the gauntlet (assuming you have the time and inclination!) my lens from the optics challenge would make a decent start.

how about breaking it up....into 90 min separate models!

lens
microphone and holder + viewfinder and carry handle
main body

sampei
03-01-2010, 07:56 AM
Iain you need to make a tutorial...the quality of your renders is unbelievable !

cresshead
03-01-2010, 08:00 AM
yeh we need to twist his arm on seeing the lw scene on them...

okay you got me hooked....i'm gonna model some stuff this afternoon but it WON'T be as nicely modeled/rendered!...still have to try huh!

SBowie
03-01-2010, 08:38 AM
Maybe this would be more reasonable?

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/2010-01-10scarletpage.jpg

(See also http://www.red.com/epic_scarlet/)

cresshead
03-01-2010, 11:39 AM
gorilla tripod!

model is zipped up here too

http://www.newtek.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82727&d=1267468720

http://www.newtek.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82728&d=1267468958

UnCommonGrafx
03-01-2010, 01:40 PM
Ha, I own one of those!
(the gorillapod, not the Red)

SBowie
03-01-2010, 01:42 PM
(the gorillapod, not the Red)You wish ... ;)

Going to NAB, Robert?

Iain
03-01-2010, 04:07 PM
That's cool, Cresshead.
Thanks for sharing too :thumbsup:

UnCommonGrafx
03-01-2010, 04:43 PM
Probably not this year, Steve. May plan for next year or SIGGRAPH this fall.
End of school and all...

You wish ... ;)

Going to NAB, Robert?

cresshead
03-01-2010, 06:13 PM
hi

okay this was a rush to get within 90 mins..so the windows are 'poop':)
just thrown in there!

still..i made it!...took far too long messing around makin stuff ya can't see!
like the other rooms!...doh!

anyhow!
as you can see i found a reference photo and plan on the internet to work from...:thumbsup:

also here is the model and scene file...improve the lighting PLEASE!:o

http://www.newtek.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82736&d=1267492264

http://www.newtek.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82735&d=1267492249

http://www.newtek.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82734&d=1267492227

website i found for the reference image
http://www.photo-studio-for-rent.com/

and their gallery
http://www.kproduction.cz/fotogalerie

Iain
03-02-2010, 05:42 AM
Another good 'un Cress! :thumbsup:

I'll have a go at lighting it if I have some time today. Yours looks more than competent though.

Iain
03-02-2010, 11:24 AM
I tried some lighting ideas on Cresshead's studio.

Pretty basic radiosity setup and the contrast is a bit extreme but the file is available if anyone wants to see it.

R.Feeney
03-02-2010, 11:43 AM
Thats some nice work there Cresshead.

Iain I`m still hoping to get the time to try that camera, I must look for some more angles on it to get the whole thing in my head before I start.

VonBon
03-02-2010, 11:51 AM
how may lights do you have in there?
and what kind. :)

Iain
03-02-2010, 12:13 PM
Two area lights, one outside the windows and one behind the camera for 'fill'.
The sun is an Area too.

Richard, I was half joking so I hope you don't feel pressured into this :devil:

R.Feeney
03-02-2010, 12:23 PM
I`m half joking myself, I`m thinking that just placing a disk with the right number of points is the key to it all.
There does appear to be a ridiculous number of switches, dials and buttons on there.
Ah feck it Ill just give it a go and see how it goes

OnlineRender
03-02-2010, 12:28 PM
I`m half joking myself, I`m thinking that just placing a disk with the right number of points is the key to it all.
There does appear to be a ridiculous number of switches, dials and buttons on there.
Ah feck it Ill just give it a go and see how it goes

Richard you know want to ..

R.Feeney
03-02-2010, 01:42 PM
About 45 min to this point and I realized that I went wrong about half an hour earlier and it would take way too long to fix it up.
I hope to get a chance to go back and try again

Iain
03-02-2010, 01:45 PM
Full marks for trying!
It's just not a shape you can get your head around easily is it?

R.Feeney
03-02-2010, 01:52 PM
If I could get my hands on the real thing I might have a better chance :D
Not that I would have any other reason for wanting one:hey:

R.Feeney
03-02-2010, 01:56 PM
I might have to try SBowie`s RED one just to restore my confidence :P

SBowie
03-02-2010, 02:09 PM
It's a 'Scarlet', actually - looked like a more reasonable challenge (though it would likely take me all day, not 90 min!)

R.Feeney
03-02-2010, 02:20 PM
:D I was just going by the big RED on the side

SBowie
03-02-2010, 03:01 PM
Oh sorry, thought that was actually a reference to the original model ("Red One")!

R.Feeney
03-02-2010, 03:10 PM
No worries, the amount I know about video cameras could be written on the back of a stamp with some room left over :D

cresshead
03-02-2010, 05:11 PM
I tried some lighting ideas on Cresshead's studio.

Pretty basic radiosity setup and the contrast is a bit extreme but the file is available if anyone wants to see it.


dude! :thumbsup:

nice edit!

Can you upload your edited version [minus your extra models if you like] so i can take a look at the render/lighting settings on the edited version you created?

cheers!

stee+cat

novawave
03-02-2010, 07:18 PM
at last...got time to enter again.. light tent set for the product shot, reference from googling:D
done in 34 minutes..and that camera on render was my earlier entry's so the object i made this time only the light ten set + lamp:)
superb job everyone as always :D,.

@Mr R Feeney : nice object:thumbsup:. with that 2 side reference i'll be struggling to model it right proportionally ,..but you did it ,..CooL

@Mr Iain : Dear Mr Iain..i try to model and render as good as yours but still faaar away. may i ask what you eat in the morning, and TV show you watch that made you this good at lightwave????he he he super render:thumbsup:

cresshead
03-02-2010, 10:10 PM
at last...got time to enter again.. light tent set for the product shot, reference from googling:D
done in 34 minutes..and that camera on render was my earlier entry's so the object i made this time only the light ten set + lamp:)
superb job everyone as always :D,.

@Mr R Feeney : nice object:thumbsup:. with that 2 side reference i'll be struggling to model it right proportionally ,..but you did it ,..CooL

@Mr Iain : Dear Mr Iain..i try to model and render as good as yours but still faaar away. may i ask what you eat in the morning, and TV show you watch that made you this good at lightwave????he he he super render:thumbsup:


cool!

nice models!

i hope to add a couple more before the deadline ends tomorrow!

Iain
03-03-2010, 02:15 AM
Here are the scene files. The overexposure in my render was done in post so it should render out ok.

You may want to take reflection & reflection blur off the backdrop board as its not required and takes much longer to render.

(Also, I have an old ambient occlusion shader attached to the walls. I sometimes use it to colour the contact shadows areas to get a more fprime-ish result. It's not really required either.)

sampei
03-03-2010, 08:29 AM
big thumbs up for sharing :thumbsup:
can the results of the shader you were talking about emulated with the use of the occlusion nodes or is it a different thing ? also is there articles or tutorials dedicated to ambient occlusion in lightwave, this technique is not very clear to me...

cresshead
03-03-2010, 08:41 AM
the ambient occlusion shader used in the scene can be found here

http://www2.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~goetsch/AmbOcc/

sampei
03-03-2010, 08:58 AM
thanks cresshead !

Iain
03-03-2010, 09:23 AM
I'm sure there's a nodal version of that shader but I just like the interface and ease of use of the old one.

Ambient Occlusion basically finds where surfaces meet and darkens it to simulate contact shadows. It doesn't work in all scenes but with the shortcomings of Interpolated radiosity, it gives an edge to wall junctions etc.

OnlineRender
03-03-2010, 10:03 AM
I reckon your probably the best lighting artist that Iv'e seen

cresshead
03-03-2010, 12:12 PM
..not gonna have enough time to make the deadline...have to go out!..darn it!

still i'll make the models i want in the final scene...tripod, bounce cards, curtaines, seating, camera etc and post a final render once complete

it's been fun!...should have started this one sooner but had a freelance gig to do!

any chance of extending another 7 days? or til the weekend??
would like to put together a complete studio photogaraphy scene!

Iain
03-03-2010, 05:09 PM
Hey thanks OR!
I'm not sure even my wife thinks that :screwy:

OnlineRender
03-04-2010, 03:33 AM
Hey thanks OR!
I'm not sure even my wife thinks that :screwy:

My wife calls herself a computer widow :D

colkai
03-04-2010, 05:34 AM
My wife calls herself a computer widow :D

Heh, yep, a goodly portion of time, there are comments made about how long I'm "stuck on that damned thing" :p

Soth
03-04-2010, 05:49 AM
the ambient occlusion shader used in the scene can be found here

http://www2.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~goetsch/AmbOcc/

...is this one better/faster/... than two that we have in LW aready?

Soth
03-04-2010, 05:53 AM
My wife calls herself a computer widow :D


Heh, yep, a goodly portion of time, there are comments made about how long I'm "stuck on that damned thing" :p

I never counted hours but I am quite sure that my wife is spending more time in front of her PC than I am, and she have much bigger screen so her hour count as at least 1.5 of mine. ;)

OnlineRender
03-04-2010, 05:59 AM
I just hit her with the same excuse ........ IM WORKING , as I slowly restore down youtube window :rock:

Kuzey
03-04-2010, 06:03 AM
Oooh....this was another close one...some cool models. I would have picked Iain but I'm going with Cresshead....for attempting a full studio....you crazy cat person :cat:

I hope it gets fully laid out and don't forget the curtains!

PS...Iain, that was a superb render of the studio btw :thumbsup:

Novawave...you can start the next challenge when ever you're ready.

Kuzey

OnlineRender
03-04-2010, 06:42 AM
well done Steve ,excellent work !

Iain
03-04-2010, 06:49 AM
Yeah-great way to join the group :thumbsup:

colkai
03-04-2010, 07:03 AM
Great work Steve and a worthy winner!

cresshead
03-04-2010, 07:42 AM
.... i won?...... falls over in shock! [thump]:dance:

i yeh defo gonna finsh the scene...already tidied up the windows..
will be adding in those curtains..some tripods, cameras lighing, bounce cards, steps etc!

also a HUGE thankyou to Iain for taking the time to look at my scene and making a great edit
on the lighting setup.

SBowie
03-04-2010, 09:43 AM
Congrats, Steve, and here is your commemorative virtual beer: :beerchug:

R.Feeney
03-04-2010, 09:45 AM
Well done steve

Nangleator
03-04-2010, 09:50 AM
Good job, all, and congratulations, Steve!

I've had the black plague for two weeks now, but I'm getting better. Hopefully I can join the next challenge.

Iain
03-04-2010, 09:59 AM
I've had the black plague for two weeks now, but I'm getting better. Hopefully I can join the next challenge.

Just you stay right where you are, son.
We don't want you in here with that!

Hope you get well soon :thumbsup:

novawave
03-04-2010, 07:06 PM
Congratulation Mr. Steve:thumbsup:, a deserved winner

and here's my models, probably anyone interested..

btw the next challenge is up.. http://newtek.com/forums/showthread.php?p=994758#post994758...its fishing time:D