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02-26-2003, 03:16 PM
first post on the new forum....
i liked the old one ...... :(

hmmm, anyway, oil well in the middle of the desert (iraqi desert? :) )..... your opinions plz.........

02-27-2003, 02:00 AM

You did a good job giving the impression of a very hazy atmosphere. One thing that sticks out to me though is that the image seems to not have much depth. Maybe it is because the clouds seem so close to me. I cant quite but my finger on it though.

I really like that fire you did. WOuld you mind sharing with me how you did it?

02-27-2003, 06:46 AM
I think the atmosphere is a little too hazy, and dust filled. The fire needs some smoke too... oil ain't clean burning. Interesting image.

02-27-2003, 09:51 AM
you probably right, the atmosphere is too hazy.... the orginal LW render was the desert, the well and the fire and an empty skys, all the rest was added in photoshop, thats why the skys looks with no depth :( (i don't like skytracer's skys)... do u people thinks i should try compositing real skys into the scene?

by the way, Zombat, the fire which comes from the oil well is caused by a natural gas caused by the dehidration of the oil, and therefore, its a clean burning - no smoke..... :)


02-27-2003, 10:16 AM
And how do you describe the huge smoke-trails during desert storm? Burn oil sometime...you'll see what I mean.

Unless this picture is of a gas release, in which case nevermind.

02-27-2003, 11:49 AM
I like the image.

how does it look animated?

02-27-2003, 02:59 PM
Composting in a real sky should give it more depth.

Alsoyou could make a nice sky image in ps and apply it to a sky dome in lw.

02-27-2003, 03:09 PM
Based on descriptions of what my uncle saw when he was there capping the wells you wouldn't actually see much of the sky at all.

From what he told me, all you could really see was a thick blanket of oil particulat engulfing everything like a black cloud of fog.

Here are some links to oil well fires from the Gulf war.



02-27-2003, 04:17 PM
Hah! 'clean smoke' indeed. :)

02-28-2003, 09:18 AM
again, the fire from the oil wells is caused by the evaporating oil = natural gas = clean burning.... what u saw in the Desert Storm war was the actual crude oil burning.... the iraqis opened the oil wells so they pump out the crude oil into the desert.....
oil = tar, benzine, karosine, gas and a few less known types of fuels, and gas is the matter which evaporate so easily and so fast and therefore almost nothing else is emitted except of the gas.

now what u have to say, mr. ExxonMobil-Zombat ? :)

almost forgot, i eventually made the skys with sky tracer, but i have another problem - i added few more wells in the horzion and turned DOF on, but the hypervoxels fire doesn't seem to be effected... any idea?


02-28-2003, 09:33 AM
So you're saying that this is just a routine let-off of gas? Alright, but it would've been nice to know that before looking at the image...

When most people (i've talked with several other people on this matter) see the image, the only thing they say is 'Where's the smoke?'

02-28-2003, 09:51 AM
ohhh man.... many people ask one stupid question....
u know what is missing?? not a smoke, but a transparet refracting gas, u know, from the heat.....when i will post the new ver (which is much more 3 dimentional) u will see what i mean, no smoke and no blah....
u never give up, don't u? :)


02-28-2003, 05:43 PM
Of course not :p

I'm just saying that you should explain your images if the'yre supposed to be something other than ... the cliche. For instance sometimes I have to justify my lack of cockpit or logical entrance on a spaceship (http://vbulletin.newtek.com/showthread.php?threadid=707)

So descriptions help :)