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shrox
09-30-2009, 09:50 AM
Has character design just gone out the window? Is it now just copy what you saw before? Looking at the characters in movies like "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs", to me they just look cheap. Long skinny arms and legs with no elbows or knees, cylindrical torsos, big buggy eyes and overly exaggerated expressions. They look like those rubber bendy toys with the wire frames that always poked out after a few bends.

I am not a cutesy character designer myself, I do spacesuits, armor, etc. so I might not be "qualified" to comment, but they just seem repetitive and uninspired. Of course the standard for me is "The Incredibles", although the cops did have a generic look to them, the main characters were well done.

biliousfrog
09-30-2009, 09:53 AM
Hey, I swear I just responded to this in another section!

dandeentremont
09-30-2009, 09:56 AM
There's always a certain elegance with simplicity when it comes to cartoony character design. As far a big CG movies go, this one had some of the simplest I've seen, but I definitely don't think it's a bad thing. Especially with the guy down there.

http://www.bearotic.com/img/2009/07/cloudy-meatballs-father.jpg

shrox
09-30-2009, 10:01 AM
There's always a certain elegance with simplicity when it comes to cartoony character design. As far a big CG movies go, this one had some of the simplest I've seen, but I definitely don't think it's a bad thing. Especially with the guy down there.

http://www.bearotic.com/img/2009/07/cloudy-meatballs-father.jpg

Well, OK, no buggy eyes on that guy...but they sure don't look like father and son.

shrox
09-30-2009, 10:02 AM
Hey, I swear I just responded to this in another section!

Yes, I posted in the wrong section.

calilifestyle
09-30-2009, 10:03 AM
well i just watched Delgo... and i agree. I swear their was nothing different about any of the characters, well maybe the colors of the skin. But everyone look like the one base mesh.

cresshead
09-30-2009, 10:30 AM
yeah they all look the same to me...err...i'm sounding cg-ist arn't i!..EEEK!

well look at real actors..quite often i can't fathom who's who in a teen drama...they all look like pretty boy/pretty girl...no idea...

what we want is more character actors in the cg world....ugly-ish not mirror perfect

you know...more like what we had back in the 40's....
like my bogart character :thumbsup:

http://www.newtek.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=77837&d=1254186860

i'm available for hire btw! :D

shrox
09-30-2009, 11:02 AM
Even The Simpsons have "character", and they do look related as if they are a family.

dandeentremont
09-30-2009, 11:33 AM
Well, OK, no buggy eyes on that guy...but they sure don't look like father and son.

I haven't seen the movie yet (I do look forward to it.) But I'm assuming the father and son are designed in such a way to illustrate differences in their character.

Chris S. (Fez)
09-30-2009, 11:36 AM
i'm available for hire btw! :D

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shrox
09-30-2009, 11:43 AM
I haven't seen the movie yet (I do look forward to it.) But I'm assuming the father and son are designed in such a way to illustrate differences in their character.

Sure, but I would say part of good character design includes such details as family resemblance, unless of course it's revealed he's not his real father!!!

wacom
09-30-2009, 11:50 AM
Well, I'd start at needing better writing and character psychology design before worrying about the state of the visual design. True they're all integrated...but the lack of depth even for a "cartoon" to some of these characters is amazing- through in the plot (or lack there of) and you've already started working with a pile of conceptual junk. The ditto characters visual look is just a reflection of this syndrome IMHO.

evenflcw
09-30-2009, 12:19 PM
I have no problem with those characters, as long as they move right. But sure, one could argue that they are not of the same "universe". But I've seen worse examples of that. And this seems to be somewhat of a trend these days... Can't say I like it either.

Father and son doesn't have to look the same either, plenty of irl examples of that. The child can take after one parent alot more than the other, so seemingly it might not look like his father, but be a spitting image of the mother (but with more male features obviously). I would think the acting is what usually convinces the viewer anyway about the relations of characters, in animated aswell as non-animated movies.

dandeentremont
09-30-2009, 12:22 PM
Sure, but I would say part of good character design includes such details as family resemblance, unless of course it's revealed he's not his real father!!!

That would end up putting many many Disney characters on the Maury show :-P

http://crazedwriter.lbbhost.com/stills/belle_maurice.jpg
Maurice, you are NOT the father!
http://home.online.no/~kaopsvik/aladdin/bilder/sultan.jpg
Nameless sultan, you are NOT the father!

Makes you wonder what mom looked like :-)

shrox
09-30-2009, 12:53 PM
That would end up putting many many Disney characters on the Maury show :-P

http://crazedwriter.lbbhost.com/stills/belle_maurice.jpg
Maurice, you are NOT the father!
http://home.online.no/~kaopsvik/aladdin/bilder/sultan.jpg
Nameless sultan, you are NOT the father!

Makes you wonder what mom looked like :-)

Actually, I do see resemblance. In the first picture, the eyes have a similar shape, one feminized of course. But then again the two leads in Aladdin look like brother and sister...I won't go there.

Also in the first picture, he is meant to be "gruff but lovable", a common Disney attribute.

But all in all these are just my opinions...

calilifestyle
09-30-2009, 04:02 PM
Yes but they have different sizes and shapes.everyone in Delgo look just like the same figure. only difference was height.